Re: [DNG] How to acknowledge ported version of Open Source program?

2016-06-07 Thread Simon Walter
On 06/07/2016 09:35 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:31:31 +0900, Simon wrote in message <57566a43.4050...@gikaku.com>: On 06/07/2016 02:51 PM, Hughe Chung wrote: I've been porting an Open Source program to Python 3.4 for my personal use. The original source code written by C la

Re: [DNG] resolved

2016-06-07 Thread Peter Olson
> On June 7, 2016 at 5:28 PM KatolaZ wrote: [...] > And my point is that we already have a powerful weapon to use against > any power that wants to give a too-tight-hug to the free software > community, and that weapon is called *copyleft* (not RMS, which would > be quite a cumbersome weapon to

Re: [DNG] devuan installer and overheating

2016-06-07 Thread Simon Walter
On 06/08/2016 12:15 PM, Simon Walter wrote: On 06/07/2016 07:38 PM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: Am Tue, 07 Jun 2016 08:33:08 + schrieb Simon Walter : I have not noticed this. What are the models of your notebook computers? You could do everyone a favour and debug it a little. Do you know

Re: [DNG] devuan installer and overheating

2016-06-07 Thread Simon Walter
On 06/07/2016 07:38 PM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: Am Tue, 07 Jun 2016 08:33:08 + schrieb Simon Walter : I have not noticed this. What are the models of your notebook computers? You could do everyone a favour and debug it a little. Do you know which process was spinning the CPU? a Samsung

Re: [DNG] resolved

2016-06-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 11:28:32 +0900, Simon wrote in message <575782d0.5080...@gikaku.com>: > My biggest gripe with systemd: How many man hours have been wasted > and will be wasted. There is an lack of wisdom in that project. ..hugely. ..I only partially agree, though, if the idea behind it is ca

Re: [DNG] resolved

2016-06-07 Thread Simon Walter
On 06/07/2016 06:59 PM, Simon Hobson wrote: Steve Litt wrote: I'm all for corporations making money. I get paid, why shouldn't they? Indeed. I find it "interesting" to hear some people suggesting they shouldn't have to pay for anything - and think that if anyone suggested they shouldn't get

Re: [DNG] Bug in live-installer

2016-06-07 Thread aitor_czr
On 08/06/16 00:24, aitor_czr wrote: As you know, you can see the error message yumping to the tty4 console. jumping:) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Bug in live-installer

2016-06-07 Thread aitor_czr
Hi all, On 23/08/15 08:16, aitor_czr wrote: Hi all, Installing live-images, the process becames unstable depending (i suppose) on the size of the filesystem.squashfs file. The following hack solves this issue: https://gitlab.com/aitor_czr/live-installer/commit/cf89c8d49196cc92d183640bd1697

Re: [DNG] resolved

2016-06-07 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 05:31:18PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: > KatolaZ wrote: > > > Despite being originally intended as a "guerrilla weapon" (and RMS and > > the others were very careful at designing it), copyleft is indeed the > > only way to keep free software free, forever. > > Indeed. > I'

Re: [DNG] resolved

2016-06-07 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Simon Hobson writes: I can understand his POV, though I'm very much in the pragmatism camp and use a mix of free and closed software. But, I respect his position - and I respect the fact that without people like him, we would not have the freedoms we have now. That's important to remember. T

Re: [DNG] resolved

2016-06-07 Thread Simon Hobson
KatolaZ wrote: > Despite being originally intended as a "guerrilla weapon" (and RMS and > the others were very careful at designing it), copyleft is indeed the > only way to keep free software free, forever. Indeed. I've heard a few descriptions of RMS - most of them uncomplimentary. Having met

Re: [DNG] resolved

2016-06-07 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Klaus Hartnegg writes: > All programmers please read this, and treat it as a list of things not to do. > > https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2016-June/014964.html Hmm ... while this is certainly the usual reimplementation no one to whom d-bus integration of everything isn't cri

Re: [DNG] How to acknowledge ported version of Open Source program?

2016-06-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:31:31 +0900, Simon wrote in message <57566a43.4050...@gikaku.com>: > On 06/07/2016 02:51 PM, Hughe Chung wrote: > > I've been porting an Open Source program to Python 3.4 for my > > personal use. The original source code written by C language in > > 2005 has MIT license. > >

Re: [DNG] resolved

2016-06-07 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 12:28:00PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: [cut] > > This puts them in a dangerous position of power. I'm not sure, after > all, if they really intended to hijack Linux-Gnu. If they really want to do > that, they might loose many contributions and find themselves alone, in

Re: [DNG] resolved

2016-06-07 Thread Dan Purgert
Jim Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Klaus Hartnegg > wrote: > > All programmers please read this, and treat it as a list of things not to > > do. > > > > https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2016-June/014964.html > > > > Systemd manages to shoot itself in the foot,

Re: [DNG] devuan installer and overheating

2016-06-07 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 07 Jun 2016 08:33:08 + schrieb Simon Walter : > I have not noticed this. What are the models of your notebook > computers? > > You could do everyone a favour and debug it a little. Do you know > which process was spinning the CPU? a Samsung NP535U3C (amd processor and graphics) a So

Re: [DNG] resolved

2016-06-07 Thread Jaromil
On Tue, 07 Jun 2016, Steve Litt wrote: > I'm all for corporations making money. I get paid, why shouldn't they? sure, this is sort out of the scope of the discussion. work should be paid as much as possible and sustainability is a feature, not a bug :) I'm even ready to understand some discounts

Re: [DNG] resolved

2016-06-07 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 07/06/2016 10:36, Steve Litt a écrit : >In >my circle, it is heresy. I suppose I am seeped in the corporate >culture and find open discussions invigorating. I'm all for corporations making money. I get paid, why shouldn't they? But what if I owned a bicycle shop, and furnished bicycle thieve

Re: [DNG] resolved

2016-06-07 Thread Simon Hobson
Steve Litt wrote: > I'm all for corporations making money. I get paid, why shouldn't they? Indeed. I find it "interesting" to hear some people suggesting they shouldn't have to pay for anything - and think that if anyone suggested they shouldn't get paid for whatever they do/produce then they

Re: [DNG] resolved

2016-06-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:54:31 +0900 Simon Walter wrote: > On 06/07/2016 03:47 PM, Jaromil wrote: > > sorry for abstracting the topic, but I definitely see a pattern in > > many contexts. I could bring forward more arguments on why this > > happens in the technology industry at a time in which mat