Re: [DNG] package request

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 00:37:59 -0400 (EDT), Peter Olson wrote: [About possible branding issues for a hypothetical future Pale Moon package in De(vu|bi)an.] > This is why there is Iceweasel instead of Firefox. Not anymore. It's plain "firefox" from Ascii (=Stretch) on. [...] > My vote: Europa.

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 21:37:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 22:49:27 +0200 > Irrwahn wrote: [...] >> I'm probably missing something important here, so I have >> to ask: What would be the point in replacing an easily >> comprehensible, self-contained and

[DNG] SaltStack

Just wanted to pass the word, I installed SaltStack master on Devuan outside the repos (2014-01was kinda old) from the SaltStack installer and had no problems. Didn't even have to decompose systemd settings & setup an init.d script like I had to do with Plex. Wonder why SaltStack is so old in the

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 09:37:11PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] > > Right now, Felker's PID1 is the acknowledged "Hello World" PID1. But as > I remember you have to add an #include to get it to work with > mainstream Linuxes, you have to get it to compile, and it's just not as >

Re: [DNG] package request

> On June 13, 2016 at 9:57 PM Steve Litt wrote: > > Only issue with pale moon is the branding: > > https://www.palemoon.org/branding.shtml > > > > Not sure if that's compatible with the main repo, maybe it needs > > rebranding first? > Yeah, just call it Bright Star,

Re: [DNG] package request

Also I heard they do include some non restricted graphic in their sources as the default when building, the graphic they use in the binary builds is the one they use those terms for I believe. Cheers, chillfan On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:32 AM, dev1fanboy wrote:

Re: [DNG] package request

Yeah it's a pretty great browser, rename/rebrand and it won't matter. Best to stay away from the whole "the brand is ours" thing. All one needs really is a graphic that looks like a moon or other various space "rock" and it'll be fine. Cheers, chillfan On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 2:57 AM,

Re: [DNG] Devuan LXC Template: lxc-devuan

On 2016-06-13 09:42, Adam Borowski wrote: > > Appears to work for me. > > If you think the template is done, please submit it upstream: > https://linuxcontainers.org/lxc/contribute/ > Hi Adam, Thanks very much for the feedback. I'm glad it worked for you! I just pushed an update with config

Re: [DNG] package request

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 00:34:23 +0100 "dev1fanboy" wrote: > It would be nice to have palemoon, they are pretty open to choice and > are specifically against adding any DRM support in their browser. > Also, it works with XUL and doesn't have the bloat that Iceweasel >

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 22:49:27 +0200 Irrwahn wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 15:47:49 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > [...] > > Then I'd write a shellscript workalike for Suckless Init. In my > > opinion, once you've done that, you should publicize it like the > > Autumn leaves,

Re: [DNG] ..another new(?) step towards Debian systemd: linux-image-4.6.0-1[-rt]-amd-signed, with MSTF keys...

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 21:14:00 +0200 Edward Bartolo wrote: > But I still am convinced with a signed kernel one can still use it to > boot any installed OS. My reasoning goes like this: once the signed > kernel boots, it would be in control of the machine. A running kernel > can

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 11:02:12 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 13/06/2016 08:16, Edward Bartolo a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > This is a question about implementing a minimal OS initiator. If > > DNG's admins/mods deem this email is misplaced please delete it or > > ignore it. > > > >

Re: [DNG] LXC template for Devuan

On 2016-06-14 00:39, Simon Walter wrote: > Well, maybe I didn't say it correctly. Is there already a devuan-keyring > package on the iso-image? It's a debootstrap install. There's no iso-image involved. > My personal opinion is that keys should not be automatically downloaded > and installed.

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 10:19:43 +0200 Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 08:16:44AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > Hi, > > > > This is a question about implementing a minimal OS initiator. If > > DNG's admins/mods deem this email is misplaced please delete it or

Re: [DNG] LXC template for Devuan

On 2016-06-13 13:42, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > The message means that using a certain locale has been requested by > setting the LANGUAGE and LANG environment variables to its name but that > it can't really be used because the compiled locale definitions for the > requested locale aren't

Re: [DNG] LXC template for Devuan

On 06/14/2016 09:26 AM, Greg Olsen wrote: On 2016-06-13 01:28, Simon Walter wrote: [snip] > > This might be a bit surprising but I actually wrote lxc-devuan with > > *non-Devuan* OS's in mind. To not discourage people from running Devuan, > > it automatically downloads and uses the

Re: [DNG] LXC template for Devuan

On 2016-06-13 08:23, Jaromil wrote: > we can create a group (named lxc?) and make you admins for it, or > simply a single project as there may be no need for more packages. > > i'm cc: hellekin to stimulate a quicker response on what should be the > naming scheme, since so far it has been

Re: [DNG] LXC template for Devuan

On 2016-06-13 01:28, Simon Walter wrote: [snip] > > This might be a bit surprising but I actually wrote lxc-devuan with > > *non-Devuan* OS's in mind. To not discourage people from running Devuan, > > it automatically downloads and uses the Devuan keyring. Without that > > capability it

Re: [DNG] package request

It would be nice to have palemoon, they are pretty open to choice and are specifically against adding any DRM support in their browser. Also, it works with XUL and doesn't have the bloat that Iceweasel does that is annoying people in later releases. I have heard Debian will follow the ESR

[DNG] maintainers resource for Devuan

This is a bit of itch scratching on my part but hopefully can become useful to people wondering how to help out with devuan packaging. Just the basics here and an unofficial list of packages that haven't had systemd removed yet, can't catch all of these as I can only tell what is on github and

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 23:49:45 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 13/06/2016 22:49, Irrwahn a écrit : [...] >> I'm probably missing something important here, so I have >> to ask: What would be the point in replacing an easily >> comprehensible, self-contained and statically linked piece >> of code[1]

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

Le 13/06/2016 22:49, Irrwahn a écrit : On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 15:47:49 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: [...] Then I'd write a shellscript workalike for Suckless Init. In my opinion, once you've done that, you should publicize it like the Autumn leaves, because you've done a service to all of Linuxdom,

Re: [DNG] ..another new(?) step towards Debian systemd: linux-image-4.6.0-1[-rt]-amd-signed, with MSTF keys...

Am Montag, 13. Juni 2016 schrieb Adam Borowski: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 09:14:00PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > But I still am convinced with a signed kernel one can still use it to > > boot any installed OS. My reasoning goes like this: once the signed > > kernel boots, it would be in

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 15:47:49 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: [...] > Then I'd write a shellscript workalike for Suckless Init. In my > opinion, once you've done that, you should publicize it like the Autumn > leaves, because you've done a service to all of Linuxdom, and you've > especially done a

Re: [DNG] ..another new(?) step towards Debian systemd: linux-image-4.6.0-1[-rt]-amd-signed, with MSTF keys...

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 09:14:00PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > But I still am convinced with a signed kernel one can still use it to > boot any installed OS. My reasoning goes like this: once the signed > kernel boots, it would be in control of the machine. A running kernel > can be used to run

Re: [DNG] Shim

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:37:44 +, Noel Torres wrote: > Hi folks... > > Where can I find a *good* and *deep enough* explanation of what a > "shim" is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shim_%28computing%29 In short: A shim is an adaptation or compatibility layer that enables software to use

Re: [DNG] Shim

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:37:44 +, Noel wrote in message <20160613193744.horde.6as5qe3gnqf8zk7lci_w...@rolamasao.org>: > Hi folks... > > Where can I find a *good* and *deep enough* explanation of what a > "shim" is (in the context of systemd and EFI), but also *easy > enough* to explain it

Re: [DNG] ..another new(?) step towards Debian systemd: linux-image-4.6.0-1[-rt]-amd-signed, with MSTF keys...

Edward Bartolo wrote: > But I still am convinced with a signed kernel one can still use it to > boot any installed OS. My reasoning goes like this: once the signed > kernel boots, it would be in control of the machine. A running kernel > can be used to run any executable

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:16:44 +0200 Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > This is a question about implementing a minimal OS initiator. If > DNG's admins/mods deem this email is misplaced please delete it or > ignore it. > > Till now, I implemented a little OS initiator that calls

[DNG] Shim

Hi folks... Where can I find a *good* and *deep enough* explanation of what a "shim" is (in the context of systemd and EFI), but also *easy enough* to explain it to some colleagues at work? Thanks Noel er Envite binRBqUCRGrNw.bin Description: Clave PGP pública

Re: [DNG] ..another new(?) step towards Debian systemd: linux-image-4.6.0-1[-rt]-amd-signed, with MSTF keys...

Hi SteveT, GRUB2 has a small kernel, on can always replace that with a full blown signed kernel and this would not introduce another step in the boot procedure. Edward On 13/06/2016, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > SteveT wrote: > << > Most of those remaining in the Debian

Re: [DNG] ..another new(?) step towards Debian systemd: linux-image-4.6.0-1[-rt]-amd-signed, with MSTF keys...

Hi, SteveT wrote: << Most of those remaining in the Debian user world are pure idiots. They'll pull any old pseudofact out of thin air, and state it as an absolute truth. Notice that his web reference's date is October 2012. Last time I googled this subject (probably 9 months ago), DIY secure

Re: [DNG] ..another new(?) step towards Debian systemd: linux-image-4.6.0-1[-rt]-amd-signed, with MSTF keys...

On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:00:13 +0200 Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > In line with: << > That way only the big distros will be able to provide a bootable OS > and the poor DIY guy will be definitely disgusted. This EFI thingy > will in no way improve the security. It is a pure

Re: [DNG] task-lxde-desktop 3.33+devuan0.3

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:47:13 +0200, Emninger wrote: [...] > Now, looking for lxsession-logout tool (which i did not > find btw!?!?) It is provided by the lxsession package. > i checked task-lxde-desktop and i see it pulls in lots of > dependencies which imho are *NOT* needed: > > - yelp > -

Re: [DNG] LXC template for Devuan

KatolaZ writes: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 09:39:49AM -0400, Greg Olsen wrote: >> On 2016-06-10 08:59, Simon Walter wrote: >>[snip] >> > > I will give the templates a go now. >> >> >I had some issues: >> >perl: warning: Setting locale failed. >> >perl: warning: Please

Re: [DNG] secure boot

On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 05:49:11PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 12/06/2016 17:08, Simon Hobson a écrit : > >Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > >>How *do* we deal with secure boot? I am terrified of buying a new > >>machine because I'm afraid I won't get to install anything on

[DNG] missing linefeed in libffi6:amd64

Trying to install the gtk2 engines i' am getting the following error msg: - There is missing a final linefeed in the filelisting file of the package E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpgk returned an error code (2) - ___ Dng mailing list

[DNG] task-lxde-desktop 3.33+devuan0.3

Sorry if i am coming back to task-lxde-desktop: Finally - and i really do not understand how, but anyway - i succeeded installin devuan ascii on qemu. I did not install any desktop, but started from the base installation and installed manually xorg, jwm, menu and lxdm. Now, looking for

Re: [DNG] Devuan LXC Template: lxc-devuan

On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 12:55:42AM -0400, Greg Olsen wrote: > I very much appreciate the work that's being done by everyone here with > Devuan, and I thought it would be good to give back in some way. > > This is a little something for those who use, or want to use, Devuan LXC > containers. > >

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Android

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 05:23:17PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote: > Hi all, > > I want to report that I've installed Devuan on a "rooted" Android device > using DebKit. > > All I did was: > 1. Change the package mirror to: auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged > 2. After the debootstrap process is complete

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

Le 13/06/2016 08:16, Edward Bartolo a écrit : Hi, This is a question about implementing a minimal OS initiator. If DNG's admins/mods deem this email is misplaced please delete it or ignore it. Till now, I implemented a little OS initiator that calls "/bin/bash" and then enters an infinite

[DNG] The utility of pristine-tar

Hi all, You can verify the purity of the tarball of the kernel of gnuinos in a very easy way: Download the sources from the .deb repository of gnuinos: wget http://gnuinos.org/linux-libre/pool/main/l/linux/linux_4.3.5.orig.tar.bz2 Check the md5sum: $ md5sum linux_4.3.5.orig.tar.bz2

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

On 13/06/16 16:19, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 08:16:44AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: Hi, This is a question about implementing a minimal OS initiator. If DNG's admins/mods deem this email is misplaced please delete it or ignore it. If you really want to create yet

Re: [DNG] LXC template for Devuan

hi, On Mon, 13 Jun 2016, Simon Walter wrote: > I've made an account on git.devuan.org (user: smwltr) How do you want to do > this? Shall I fork your repo and apply a patch and then send you a pull > request? we can create a group (named lxc?) and make you admins for it, or simply a single

[DNG] Devuan on Android

Hi all, I want to report that I've installed Devuan on a "rooted" Android device using DebKit. All I did was: 1. Change the package mirror to: auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged 2. After the debootstrap process is complete and under the chroot install the devuan-keyring package. I tried to use

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 08:16:44AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > This is a question about implementing a minimal OS initiator. If > DNG's admins/mods deem this email is misplaced please delete it or > ignore it. If you really want to create yet another init, I can recommend this

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

On 13/06/16 15:29, KatolaZ wrote: If I can provide my 2 cents to the discusion, before writing a new init you should have studied and understood very well one of the existing ones, and what should happen behind the scenes from the moment your kernel is decompressed to the appearance of a login

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 08:16:44AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > This is a question about implementing a minimal OS initiator. If > DNG's admins/mods deem this email is misplaced please delete it or > ignore it. > > Till now, I implemented a little OS initiator that calls "/bin/bash" >

[DNG] installer iso with wpa_supplicant

Hi emninger, On 13/06/16 02:16, wrote: I just realized that in the devuan jessie installer in the basic install (i.e. before you select software and DE) there is no wpa_supplicant - so you (at least me) cannot configure a wireless connection from commandline. (Jaromil in

Re: [DNG] Best way to manage wifi / wwan

Hi, Another two suggestions are to use simple-netaid. This consists of two packages one for the CLI backend and another for the GUI frontend. The packages' names are simple-netaid-backend and simple-netaid-gui respectively. Together with these there is another GUI frontend coded entirely in C,

[DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

Hi, This is a question about implementing a minimal OS initiator. If DNG's admins/mods deem this email is misplaced please delete it or ignore it. Till now, I implemented a little OS initiator that calls "/bin/bash" and then enters an infinite while loop that does nothing. The loop's purpose is