Re: [DNG] Devuan Sticker Poll

2016-07-30 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Jaromil (jaro...@dyne.org): > it really looks bad so lets omit it. we have a registered trademark to > defend ourselves from felony of all sorts ^ Let's talk for a moment about what you can and cannot do with a trademark. In Europe, trademarks

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

2016-07-30 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Hendrik Boom: > Given the mix, I'd prefer to hear him out rather than ban him. You-plural should _most_ certainly ban me if Dng cannot accomodate occasional polite mocking of what I see as ideological ranting and tunnel vision that notably fails to get anything done. I couldn't help

Re: [DNG] Ugly, ugly news

2016-07-30 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > It's possible that he considers toxicity is inherent in the mere > presence of a constitution. Maybe countries need constitutions. Maybe > systems of software just need forking. It doesn't hurt to just _ask_ Joey his perspective. It might

Re: [DNG] Ugly, ugly news

2016-07-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 11:18:09 -0400, Steve wrote in message <20160730111809.17c29...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 10:50:24 +0200 > Jaromil wrote: > > > On Sat, 30 Jul 2016, aitor_czr wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/29/2016 08:53 PM, Hendrik Boom

Re: [DNG] Bad website CSS: was Devuan Sticker Poll

2016-07-30 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 7/30/16, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: [DNG] Bad website CSS: was Devuan Sticker Poll To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, July 30, 2016, 1:10 PM On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 12:14:44 +0100 Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> hellekin

[DNG] Bad website CSS: was Devuan Sticker Poll

2016-07-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 12:14:44 +0100 Rainer Weikusat wrote: > hellekin writes: > > https://talk.devuan.org/t/devuan-merchandise/177/2?u=hellekin When I render the preceding on my computer with my (fairly large font) settings, the line spacing is so

Re: [DNG] Devuan Sticker Poll

2016-07-30 Thread Jaromil
On Sat, 30 Jul 2016, Nate Bargmann wrote: > If the logo is indeed a registered trademark, then the circled R may be > required. Probably varies among jurisdictions. it really looks bad so lets omit it. we have a registered trademark to defend ourselves from felony of all sorts, it won't be an

Re: [DNG] Devuan Sticker Poll

2016-07-30 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2016 30 Jul 08:40 -0500, hellekin wrote: > On 07/30/2016 11:14 AM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > > > https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/uploads/30a5f6a2dbfb5124b4ba8c44a04ef334/devuan_logotype.sh.png > > > > Would look better if the encircled R wasn't there, though. > > > > I

Re: [DNG] Ugly, ugly news

2016-07-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 06:35:39AM +, hellekin wrote: > On 07/29/2016 12:10 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > Can we get Joey Hess to review it? > > > > I sent him a message on IRC and by email including the draft's URL. But > I don't know him personally, so I won't insist. If you're friend

Re: [DNG] Ugly, ugly news

2016-07-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 10:50:24 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jul 2016, aitor_czr wrote: > > > > > > > On 07/29/2016 08:53 PM, Hendrik Boom > > wrote: > > >Can we get Joey Hess to review it? > > > > > >-- hendrik > > > > I don't know him, but i

Re: [DNG] Bug#832508: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd

2016-07-30 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2016 30 Jul 00:12 -0500, Rick Moen wrote: > Wow, I really didn't know that. And I thought I was being pessimistic > and harsh, but maybe I wasn't even harsh enough _by half_. Thanks for that. This is a long read and nearly four years old, but I don't think the situation has improved much:

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

2016-07-30 Thread info at smallinnovations.nl
On 29-07-16 21:39, Jaromil wrote: I think most people clashing with Rick here may want to stop for a moment and realise Devuan does not need fan-boys, converted people or preachers as much as critical and constructive minds that go across all what we are doing and, besides encouraging it, also

Re: [DNG] Devuan Sticker Poll

2016-07-30 Thread Rainer Weikusat
hellekin writes: > Dear Devuan supporters, > > We've been talking[0] to unixstickers.com for original, high-quality > Devuan stickers giving back a percentage of the proceeds to the project > as part of https://devuan.org/os/shopping. Our choice are narrowed down > to three

Re: [DNG] Ugly, ugly news

2016-07-30 Thread Jaromil
On Sat, 30 Jul 2016, aitor_czr wrote: > > > On 07/29/2016 08:53 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >Can we get Joey Hess to review it? > > > >-- hendrik > > I don't know him, but i think that he would not oppose it :) yes, I think it would be a very healthy iteration for us,

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

2016-07-30 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Simon Walter (si...@gikaku.com): > First of all, if my words mean nothing to you, you should ignore > them. OK, ignoring the rest. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

2016-07-30 Thread Simon Walter
On 07/30/2016 03:55 PM, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Simon Walter (si...@gikaku.com): Isn't that what's being discussed? When did I say the things you said were opposition for the Devuan Project? 'disagree with a fork of Debian'. I've made clear what I said, and what it meant and didn't mean.

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

2016-07-30 Thread Simon Walter
On 07/30/2016 02:57 PM, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Simon Walter (si...@gikaku.com): Which is why it could be construed that you disagree with a fork of Debian - a for of Debian as in "A fork of Debian that could be said to have been started because the default init system in Debian became