Re: [DNG] Bootloaders (was: SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs)

Quoting Peter Olson (pe...@peabo.com): > Turns out, I had managed to screw up my partition table. So Grub > would never in a million years be able to boot anything off that disk. > I found this out during reinstallation when I was presented with a > partition table different from what I

Re: [DNG] Bootloaders (was: SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs)

> On August 10, 2016 at 3:01 AM Simon Hobson wrote: > > Peter Olson wrote: > > > I have a machine in that state right now, and rather than try to debug it > > at the Grub prompt, I am just going to reinstall the system. > > That's a bit like the old

Re: [DNG] Bootloaders (was: SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs)

Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > Sometimes a good, prophylactic fresh install is just what's needed. There's something to that. At $FIRM, a big shop where I was Senior Sysadmin for six years in the Operations department, we tried to make every machine auto-buildable using

Re: [DNG] GDBus error in LXDE desktop

On 08/10/2016 07:50 PM, Emiliano Marini wrote: Sorry but it's ok to report bugs on this list? Cheers, Emiliano. LOL, of course... I think so :) Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Your computer clock: Was:Re: vdev

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:18:39 +0200 aitor_czr wrote: > Hi Svante, > > On 08/10/2016 11:16 AM, Svante Signell wrote: > > On Thu, 2016-08-11 at 02:00 +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > >> > > >> > Aitor. > >> > > > Aitor, your computer clock is running ahead again. Can you

Re: [DNG] vdev

On 11/08/16 00:13, richard lucassen wrote: ... diff -rc clean/usr/lib/vdev/udev-compat.sh echo "event-put $_DEVICE_ID" >> /tmp/udev-compat.log echo "" >> /tmp/udev-compat.log -_RC=$? What are the consequences of moving this _RC? +_RC=$? echo "event-put

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

- Original Message - From: "Rainer Weikusat" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end dev writes: On 08/10/2016 04:26 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: Hello. Thanks to a

Re: [DNG] vdev

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:04:24 +0200 aitor_czr wrote: > > I've now made a snapshot of the vdev files from the working disk. > > available at www.realthing.com.au/files/vdev/vdev-snapshot.tgz. > > Thanks ! Aitor, does your vdev set the permissions and ownerships correctly?

Re: [DNG] Timezones: Was: Your computer clock: Was:Re: vdev

Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > Ah, I stand corrected, according to > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B14:00 it was because parts of the > colony were on different sides of the IDL and that meant that they > only had 4 working days in common - Monday on one island would be >

Re: [DNG] vdev

On 08/10/2016 06:11 PM, fsmithred wrote: On 08/11/2016 09:45 AM, aitor_czr wrote: > >Hi fsmithred, > >On 08/10/2016 03:36 PM, fsmithred wrote: >>On 08/11/2016 05:23 AM, aitor_czr wrote: >>> > >>> >Hi Ralph, >>> > >>> >On 08/10/2016 10:46 AM, Ralph Ronnquist wrote:

[DNG] GDBus error in LXDE desktop

Just had this error starting LXDE for the first time: https://postimg.org/image/qr34b416j/ Sorry but it's ok to report bugs on this list? Cheers, Emiliano. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

On Wed, 8/10/16, richard lucassen wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 11:35 AM On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:59:58 +0100 Simon Hobson wrote: > How long before he

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

Le 10/08/2016 18:20, Tomasz Torcz a écrit : Current udev_cannot_ be used to populate /dev, it doesn't contain any mknod() calls enymore. Actually mknod isn't necessary since device files are created by the kernel in /sys/block/dev and /sys/char/dev and the hotplugger only needs to copy

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 23, Issue 42

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 17:08:20 Simon Hobson wrote: > It does sound like this was an area potentially in want of some looking at. > However, the way to do that would have been to discuss it rationally with the > kernel guys and agree a way forward - putting the fix in well before the > breakage.

Re: [DNG] read-only filesystem using NETINST inside VirtualBox

Solved enabling "Host I/O Cache" in the SATA Controller attributes. On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Emiliano Marini wrote: > Sorry, > > This is VirtualBox's fault: > > 00:16:08.595972 AioMgr0-N: Request 0x0814cbd900 failed with > rc=VERR_TRY_AGAIN, migrating

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:59:58 +0100 Simon Hobson wrote: > How long before he decides that Grub needs "improving" ? How long before he decides that the kernel needs "improving"? -- richard lucassen http://contact.xaq.nl/ ___

Re: [DNG] Security news about TCP weakness

Go Linux wrote: > For those of you so inclined. Is this important, old news or just academic > posturing? I think it's all three ! It looks very much related to a CVE from 2004 https://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2004-0230 Fundamentally, if someone can

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:51:22AM -0500, dev wrote: > > > On 08/10/2016 04:26 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Hello. Thanks to a friendly help, I've found a few mails and > > articles which deserve to be read: > > > > Udev on non-systemd is a dead-end: > > So.. then.. basically any Linux

Re: [DNG] vdev

On 08/11/2016 09:45 AM, aitor_czr wrote: > > Hi fsmithred, > > On 08/10/2016 03:36 PM, fsmithred wrote: >> On 08/11/2016 05:23 AM, aitor_czr wrote: >>> > >>> >Hi Ralph, >>> > >>> >On 08/10/2016 10:46 AM, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: >>Note that I added "loop" to modules

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

I wrote: > But reading the original links, he is clearly saying "I'll break stuff > whenever *I* think it's right and I don't care how much work it makes for > others in fixing the result". However ... It does sound like this was an area potentially in want of some looking at. However, the

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

dev writes: > On 08/10/2016 04:26 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: >> Hello. Thanks to a friendly help, I've found a few mails and >> articles which deserve to be read: >> >> Udev on non-systemd is a dead-end: > > So.. then.. basically any Linux distro which uses udev to

Re: [DNG] read-only filesystem using NETINST inside VirtualBox

Sorry, This is VirtualBox's fault: 00:16:08.595972 AioMgr0-N: Request 0x0814cbd900 failed with rc=VERR_TRY_AGAIN, migrating endpoint /.vmdk to failsafe manager. 00:16:08.890843 AIOMgr: I/O manager 0x08212fa4a0 encountered a critical error (rc=VERR_FILE_AIO_NO_REQUEST) during

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

dev wrote: >>Udev on non-systemd is a dead-end: > > So.. then.. basically any Linux distro which uses udev to populate /dev/ is > going to be S.O.L? Including Slackware presumably? That's about it - and I suspect that Poettering "isn't upset" by that. But reading the

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

On 08/10/2016 04:26 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: Hello. Thanks to a friendly help, I've found a few mails and articles which deserve to be read: Udev on non-systemd is a dead-end: So.. then.. basically any Linux distro which uses udev to populate /dev/ is going to be S.O.L? Including

[DNG] Security news about TCP weakness

For those of you so inclined. Is this important, old news or just academic posturing? golinux -- https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160809143253.htm Serious security threat to many Internet users highlighted Communications involving Linux

Re: [DNG] Timezones: Was: Your computer clock: Was:Re: vdev

Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:59:07AM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: >> Err, no it isn't - unless you've found the secret of time travel ! You're a >> day ahead of us. >> >> Your clock says 11th Aug, in the rest of the world it's still the 10th Aug. >>

Re: [DNG] vdev

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 23:21:36 +1000 Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > > logfile=/run/vdev/vdevd.log > > > > I'd rather choose > > > > logfile=/var/log/vdev/vdevd.log > > > > as /run/ is a ramdisk ;-) > > So would I :-) but I got the impression /var (or /) is read-only when >

Re: [DNG] Your computer clock: Was:Re: vdev

Hi Simon, On 08/10/2016 02:00 PM, Simon Hobson wrote: aitor_czr wrote: >My clock is right: > >aitor@gnuinos:~$ date >Thu Aug 11 11:14:02 CEST 2016 Err, no it isn't - unless you've found the secret of time travel ! You're a day ahead of us.

Re: [DNG] vdev

On 08/11/2016 05:23 AM, aitor_czr wrote: > > Hi Ralph, > > On 08/10/2016 10:46 AM, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: >> Note that I added "loop" to modules because the hardware database is a >> squasfs; I haven't actually verified that it's really needed but just >> left it so. >> >> Ralph. > > All the

Re: [DNG] vdev

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 09:34:12 -0400 fsmithred wrote: > No SD_MOD here... > > $ grep SD_MOD /boot/config-3.16.0-4-amd64 find /lib/modules/ -name sd_mod.ko -- richard lucassen http://contact.xaq.nl/ ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Your computer clock: Was:Re: vdev

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 09:14:13AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:59:07AM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: > > aitor_czr wrote: > > > > > My clock is right: > > > > > > aitor@gnuinos:~$ date > > > Thu Aug 11 11:14:02 CEST 2016 > > > > Err, no it isn't

Re: [DNG] Your computer clock: Was:Re: vdev

... about 16 hours East of East Australia; roughly in time zone +26 I think ;-0 On 10/08/16 23:14, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:59:07AM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: aitor_czr wrote: My clock is right: aitor@gnuinos:~$ date Thu Aug 11 11:14:02 CEST

Re: [DNG] vdev

On 10/08/16 22:22, richard lucassen wrote: On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 18:46:36 +1000 Ralph Ronnquist wrote: I've now made a snapshot of the vdev files from the working disk. available at www.realthing.com.au/files/vdev/vdev-snapshot.tgz. logfile=/run/vdev/vdevd.log I'd

Re: [DNG] Your computer clock: Was:Re: vdev

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:59:07AM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: > aitor_czr wrote: > > > My clock is right: > > > > aitor@gnuinos:~$ date > > Thu Aug 11 11:14:02 CEST 2016 > > Err, no it isn't - unless you've found the secret of time travel ! You're a > day ahead of us. >

Re: [DNG] vdev

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 14:22:07 +0200 richard lucassen wrote: > But when running: > > /sbin/vdevd -v2 -c /etc/vdev/vdevd.conf -l /var/log/vdev/vdev.log /dev > > everything seems to work well, the apropiate ownerships and > permissions are set to the expected settings.

Re: [DNG] vdev

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 18:46:36 +1000 Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > I've now made a snapshot of the vdev files from the working disk. > available at www.realthing.com.au/files/vdev/vdev-snapshot.tgz. logfile=/run/vdev/vdevd.log I'd rather choose

Re: [DNG] vdev

On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 09:14:09PM +0200, richard lucassen wrote: > Oh, BTW, when packaging vdevd, I'd opt for the /etc/vdev/ dir and not > the /usr/etc/vdev/ dir. All these files are supposed to be conffiles, and thus belong under /etc. Systemd moved them to /usr because Red Hat has abysmal

Re: [DNG] vdev

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:23:03 +0200 aitor_czr wrote: > On 08/10/2016 10:46 AM, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > > Note that I added "loop" to modules because the hardware database > > is a squasfs; I haven't actually verified that it's really needed > > but just left it so. > >

Re: [DNG] Your computer clock: Was:Re: vdev

aitor_czr wrote: > My clock is right: > > aitor@gnuinos:~$ date > Thu Aug 11 11:14:02 CEST 2016 Err, no it isn't - unless you've found the secret of time travel ! You're a day ahead of us. Your clock says 11th Aug, in the rest of the world it's still the 10th Aug. And

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

Hello. Thanks to a friendly help, I've found a few mails and articles which deserve to be read: Udev on non-systemd is a dead-end: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html To face issues with Udev, the Linux kernel team has started implementing

Re: [DNG] vdev

Hi Ralph, On 08/10/2016 10:46 AM, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: Note that I added "loop" to modules because the hardware database is a squasfs; I haven't actually verified that it's really needed but just left it so. Ralph. All the required modules are included in the kernel: SQUASHFS LOOP

Re: [DNG] Your computer clock: Was:Re: vdev

Hi Svante, On 08/10/2016 11:16 AM, Svante Signell wrote: On Thu, 2016-08-11 at 02:00 +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > > Aitor. > Aitor, your computer clock is running ahead again. Can you please sync with ntpdate regularly in a cron script (or replace the CMOS battery?) Thanks! My clock is

[DNG] Your computer clock: Was:Re: vdev

On Thu, 2016-08-11 at 02:00 +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > >   Aitor. > Aitor, your computer clock is running ahead again. Can you please sync with ntpdate regularly in a cron script (or replace the CMOS battery?) Thanks! ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] vdev

On 08/10/2016 10:46 AM, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: I've now made a snapshot of the vdev files from the working disk. available at www.realthing.com.au/files/vdev/vdev-snapshot.tgz. As I mentioned before, it came down to a couple changes to the config file and the udev-compat.sh helper (maybe not

Re: [DNG] vdev

I've now made a snapshot of the vdev files from the working disk. available at www.realthing.com.au/files/vdev/vdev-snapshot.tgz. As I mentioned before, it came down to a couple changes to the config file and the udev-compat.sh helper (maybe not needed), then adding dameonlet and the acls

Re: [DNG] vdev

Hi Richard, On 08/10/2016 07:15 AM, richard lucassen wrote: The /urs/etc dir is for the example (documentation) about how to configure it. I've never seen any /usr/etc, but /usr/local/etc already exists. I respected all the directories established by Jude Nelson,

Re: [DNG] Bootloaders (was: SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs)

Peter Olson wrote: > I have a machine in that state right now, and rather than try to debug it at > the Grub prompt, I am just going to reinstall the system. That's a bit like the old "I'm buying a new car because the ashtray is full" joke. If you've managed to screw up your