Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:14:43PM -0500, John Morris wrote: > On Fri, 2017-07-21 at 16:25 -0500, Don Wright wrote: > > Dragan FOSS wrote: > > >I think it's best to drop 32-bit support at all... it's such a waste of > > >time and resources. > > > > > > As long as you're pruning, kill x64 as

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-21 Thread Juergen Moebius
Am Saturday, 22-07-2017 at 03:14PM John Morris wrote: > On Fri, 2017-07-21 at 16:25 -0500, Don Wright wrote: > 1. Linux / GNU / X, this is the fork Devuan No, not only Devuan. You forgot the great "Slackware", the mother of Linux distributions. It's number one for me! Unfortunately

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:45:23AM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > The bad news is that if this is the only step I take, "apt-get" will > want to upgrade 1248 packages (it looks more impressive when I write it > out . . One Thousand, Two Hundred and Forty Eight packages) with a > download size of 608

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-21 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:14:43PM -0500, John Morris wrote: > On Fri, 2017-07-21 at 16:25 -0500, Don Wright wrote: > > Dragan FOSS wrote: > > >I think it's best to drop 32-bit support at all... it's such a waste of > > >time and resources. > > > > > > As long as you're pruning, kill x64 as

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-21 Thread John Morris
On Fri, 2017-07-21 at 16:25 -0500, Don Wright wrote: > Dragan FOSS wrote: > >I think it's best to drop 32-bit support at all... it's such a waste of > >time and resources. > > > As long as you're pruning, kill x64 as well, because the majority of > computers sold are using ARM architecture and

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-21 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 04:25:55PM -0500, Don Wright wrote: > Dragan FOSS wrote: > >I think it's best to drop 32-bit support at all... it's such a waste of > >time and resources. > > As long as you're pruning, kill x64 as well, because the majority of > computers sold are using ARM architecture

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-21 Thread zap
Oh, and then there's *this* as a reason for supporting arm: https://notabug.org/libreboot/libreboot/issues/264 apparently someone is trying to reverse engineer arm without lima... which could be very advantageous to devuan and other free software distros... On 07/21/2017 05:25 PM, Don Wright

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-21 Thread Don Wright
Dragan FOSS wrote: >I think it's best to drop 32-bit support at all... it's such a waste of >time and resources. As long as you're pruning, kill x64 as well, because the majority of computers sold are using ARM architecture and run Android or iOS.

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-21 Thread Dragan FOSS
On 07/21/2017 09:02 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: Cinnamon 3.0.x (only amd64) I think it's best to drop 32-bit support at all... it's such a waste of time and resources. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-21 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
- Original Message - From: To: Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE On 2017-07-21 13:30, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: - Original Message - From: To:

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-21 Thread golinux
On 2017-07-21 13:30, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE On 2017-07-21 12:57, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: - Original

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread Simon Hobson
I wrote: > All the time, a lot of people we stood on the sidelines willing them to fail. Oops, s/we/were/ Personally I was watching and thinking "that's one hell of a task, I'm a bit sceptical* but I sure as heck hope they manage it". * Not knowing who these veterans were, and their level of

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-21 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
- Original Message - From: To: Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE On 2017-07-21 12:57, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: - Original Message - From: Antonio Volpicelli To:

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-21 Thread golinux
On 2017-07-21 12:57, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: - Original Message - From: Antonio Volpicelli To: dng@lists.dyne.org Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 7:21 AM Subject: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE hi to all, I have build Cinnamon 3.0 for Jessie and MATE-1.18 for Ascii, If

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread Simon Hobson
Boruch Baum wrote: > The bad news is that if this is the only step I take, "apt-get" will > want to upgrade 1248 packages (it looks more impressive when I write it > out . . One Thousand, Two Hundred and Forty Eight packages) with a > download size of 608 Mb. What if,

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:45:23AM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > On 2017-07-22 00:23, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > > Boruch Baum wrote on 21/07/17 23:50: > > > Where else should I be looking? > > > > Perhaps you've set "APT::Default-Release "jessie";" ? > > > > Without that, you'll get the more balanced

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-21 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
- Original Message - From: Antonio Volpicelli To: dng@lists.dyne.org Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 7:21 AM Subject: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE hi to all, I have build Cinnamon 3.0 for Jessie and MATE-1.18 for Ascii, If anyone wants to try them just install from the

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread Boruch Baum
On 2017-07-22 00:23, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > Boruch Baum wrote on 21/07/17 23:50: > > Where else should I be looking? > > Perhaps you've set "APT::Default-Release "jessie";" ? > > Without that, you'll get the more balanced pinning of 500 and 100. > I think I saw some Debian bug report (on apt?)

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread Ralph Ronnquist
Boruch Baum wrote on 21/07/17 23:50: On 2017-07-21 14:14, KatolaZ wrote: On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:39:50AM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: Just to clarify, and since you are talking about "default" pin levels: the default pin level of standard Devuan repositories is 500. The default for backports

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 09:40:27AM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: [cut] > > 2] Isn't it a legitimate devuan package from a legitimate currently >supported devuan repository? if you are not using the 6.6.3+devuan1.3 version, then it's not a package in a legitimate currently supported devuna

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread Boruch Baum
On 2017-07-21 14:14, KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:39:50AM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > > Just to clarify, and since you are talking about "default" pin levels: > the default pin level of standard Devuan repositories is 500. The > default for backports and experimental is 100. So I

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread Boruch Baum
On 2017-07-21 14:01, KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:46:27AM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > > On 2017-07-21 13:24, KatolaZ wrote: > > > Please check this first, since dozens of people are using reportbug > > > from jessie, and their bugs are correctly reported to bugs.devuan.org. > > > >

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread Boruch Baum
On 2017-07-21 13:57, KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:39:50AM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > > Thanks for a quick response. > > > > > > On 2017-07-21 13:24, KatolaZ wrote: > > > Which version of reportbug are you using? > > > > The offending version was 6.6.6~bpo8+1, and the upgraded

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 02:01:46PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: [cut] > > Hi, > > You should exercise some patience, please :) The bug reports are > processed in batches. Your emails arrived on the server aroun 11:40, > 11:50, 12:30 UTC time, and have been processed. You should have > received

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:39:50AM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: [cut] > > That version does show up on my apt-cache policy output, pinned to the > default 990 from http://auto.mirrors.devuan.org/merged jessie/main. > > However, version 6.6.6~bpo8+1 was likewise pinned to the default 990 > from

Re: [DNG] /dev/ttyUSBn moving around after wake from suspend

2017-07-21 Thread Lars Noodén
On 07/17/2017 01:43 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > ... > I have the same. I have had some success with trying to map a physical > port the dongle is attached to with a persistent name, and then the > kernel, for reasons seemingly known only to it, reorders them and it all > goes out the window. > ...

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:46:27AM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > On 2017-07-21 13:24, KatolaZ wrote: > > Please check this first, since dozens of people are using reportbug > > from jessie, and their bugs are correctly reported to bugs.devuan.org. > > Enzo, I should add that though I manually

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:39:50AM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > Thanks for a quick response. > > > On 2017-07-21 13:24, KatolaZ wrote: > > Which version of reportbug are you using? > > The offending version was 6.6.6~bpo8+1, and the upgraded (current) > version is 7.1.6+devuan2.1. So it was not

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread Boruch Baum
On 2017-07-21 13:24, KatolaZ wrote: > Please check this first, since dozens of people are using reportbug > from jessie, and their bugs are correctly reported to bugs.devuan.org. Enzo, I should add that though I manually submitted THREE bug reports to devuan this morning, I have received neither

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread Boruch Baum
Thanks for a quick response. On 2017-07-21 13:24, KatolaZ wrote: > Which version of reportbug are you using? The offending version was 6.6.6~bpo8+1, and the upgraded (current) version is 7.1.6+devuan2.1. > jessie has 6.6.3+devuan1.3, That version does show up on my apt-cache policy output,

Re: [DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:15:59AM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > > Earlier today, I filed a bug report against the devuan testing version > of 'mutt', but because I was using the stable version of devuan, and the > stable version of reportbug, the report went to debian. > > Now, that was

[DNG] reportbug is the stable repository

2017-07-21 Thread Boruch Baum
Earlier today, I filed a bug report against the devuan testing version of 'mutt', but because I was using the stable version of devuan, and the stable version of reportbug, the report went to debian. Now, that was incompetent. Was it incompetent of me or of devuan or both? Updating a recipient

Re: [DNG] Ansible and Devuan (bug or feature?)

2017-07-21 Thread Jaromil
dear Emilien, sorry for late reply. If you like to continue the conversation I recommend inscribing to this list, your mail was stuck for quite a while. Also thanks for raising the issue. On Tue, 25 Apr 2017, Emilien Mantel wrote: > In Devuan, IMHO should be: > > "ansible_distribution":