Re: [DNG] OpenVZ 6 ready with Devuan 1

On 26.07.2017 21:15, Adam Borowski wrote: The future is lxc, which has some new tricks, but offers nowhere close to the level of isolation openvz and vserver had. Unprivileged containers aren't bad, but still quite lacking. Whats missing in lxc? --mtx

Re: [DNG] flash player for browser

Quoting Joachim Fahrner (j...@fahrner.name): > You can try Google Chrome (not Chromium). AFAIK that's the only > browser for Linux that still supports Flash. As mentioned separately, pepperflashplugin-nonfree (the PPAPI[1] proprietary Google-written Flash player _for_ Google Chrome) works in

Re: [DNG] flash player for browser

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 02:01:03PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 07:49:56PM +0200, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > > Am 2017-07-26 19:40, schrieb Haines Brown: > > >I need access an online database, but when I try to do it I get the > > >error message that I don't have the latest

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 04:00:43PM -0400, Christopher Clements wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:56:13AM +, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult > wrote: > > On 26.07.2017 09:34, Didier Kryn wrote: > > > and even unistd's write() and seek() are wrappers for kernel's pwrite(). > > > > No. Just

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 12:22:39PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" wrote: On 26.07.2017 04:47, Christopher Clements wrote: My high-school programming class was advertised as teaching people how to program in C and do all sorts of

Re: [DNG] FWD: [OT] Spammer gone meta

also moderated. thanks for your patience and cooperation ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 04:00:43PM -0400, Christopher Clements wrote: Wouldn't this work? (no error checking of course XD) off_t lseek(int fd, off_t offset, int whence); ssize_t write(int fd, const void *buf, size_t count); ssize_t pwrite(int fd, const void *buf, size_t count, off_t

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:56:13AM +, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: On 26.07.2017 09:34, Didier Kryn wrote: All languages wrap libc's API with their own primitives: C wraps unistd's write() within printf() and fwrite() It doesn't just "wrap" it, it calls it in order to

Re: [DNG] flash player for browser

Rüdiger Meier - 26.07.17, 20:04: > On 07/26/2017 08:01 PM, Haines Brown wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 07:49:56PM +0200, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > >> Am 2017-07-26 19:40, schrieb Haines Brown: > >>> I need access an online database, but when I try to do it I get the > >>> error message that I

[DNG] FWD: [OT] Spammer gone meta

Forwarding this because I thought it funny. Also, what's nettiquite say about forwarding a forward? Should I remove his portion of the message? - Forwarded message from ShieldCurve - Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 20:39:15 -0400 From: ShieldCurve To:

[DNG] OpenVZ 6 ready with Devuan 1

Hello, documentation and containers are written and tested to Devuan 1.0 works as host and as guest: https://openvz.org/Installation_on_Debian_8 Container templates: https://openvz.org/Download/template/precreated OpenVZ 6 remains as one of the most mature and stable solutions for

Re: [DNG] flash player for browser

Am 2017-07-26 20:01, schrieb Haines Brown: So then how do I access the database? The files I need to access are newspaper images. You can try Google Chrome (not Chromium). AFAIK that's the only browser for Linux that still supports Flash. ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] flash player for browser

On 07/26/2017 08:01 PM, Haines Brown wrote: On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 07:49:56PM +0200, Joachim Fahrner wrote: Am 2017-07-26 19:40, schrieb Haines Brown: I need access an online database, but when I try to do it I get the error message that I don't have the latest version of Macromedia Flash

[DNG] flash player for browser

I know the issue of flash player has often come up, but I don't normally watch videos and so did not pay attention. I need access an online database, but when I try to do it I get the error message that I don't have the latest version of Macromedia Flash Player. The site needs Macromedia Flash

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming (Was: Please keep 32-bits alive)

Yes, please, thank you sirs to the part of the subject line in the parentheses. Yea, that, and that's why I'm here and not in a classroom to Simon's original post on the "Teaching IT & programming thread. Education in the US has nothing to do with Devuan. I'd rather be a polite netizen and

[DNG] C++

I change the subject line again. I wish people would do this more often. On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 03:15:46PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 26/07/2017 à 12:49, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult a écrit : > >I wouldn't claim C++ itself is bad, but it seems to have a massive > >attraction to

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

Le 26/07/2017 à 15:12, Didier Kryn a écrit : AFAIK libc's pwrite() is the low-level (minimal) wrapper to the linux Write system-call. There isn't the concept of sequential read/write to a disk in the kernel and this paradigm is implemented by the means of libc's write(). I may be

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

Le 26/07/2017 à 12:49, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult a écrit : I wouldn't claim C++ itself is bad, but it seems to have a massive attraction to incompetent people. I consider it has been a mess from the beginning. The learning curve is so steep that almost nobody is able to

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

Le 26/07/2017 à 12:56, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult a écrit : and even unistd's write() and seek() are wrappers for kernel's pwrite(). No. Just look at the code. write()+seek() as different semantics than pwrite(), and they don't even need to be supported by some particular fd.

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming (Was: Please keep 32-bits alive)

"Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" wrote: > On 26.07.2017 04:47, Christopher Clements wrote: > >> My high-school programming class was advertised as teaching people how to >> program in C and do all sorts of low-level stuff. I signed up thinking >> I might finally meet

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

On 26.07.2017 09:34, Didier Kryn wrote: All languages wrap libc's API with their own primitives: C wraps unistd's write() within printf() and fwrite() It doesn't just "wrap" it, it calls it in order to achieve some higher functionality. These functions only make sense if you're working

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

On 26.07.2017 08:55, Didier Kryn wrote: I totally disagree. Programming low level libc functions and programming a full-featured web browser aren't the same kind of job at all and should be done in neither the same state of mind, nor the same language. Most probably they souldn't be done by

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

Le 26/07/2017 à 11:06, Adam Borowski a écrit : On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:55:32AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 26/07/2017 à 07:52, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult a écrit : I think that everyone should have to learn how to write a simple shell for an 8-bit architecture before they can be

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:55:32AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 26/07/2017 à 07:52, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult a écrit : > > > > > I think that everyone should have to learn how to write a simple shell > > > for an 8-bit architecture before they can be considered a real > > > programmer.

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

Le 26/07/2017 à 07:52, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult a écrit : I think that everyone should have to learn how to write a simple shell for an 8-bit architecture before they can be considered a real programmer. ;P ACK I totally disagree. Programming low level libc functions and