Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-29 Thread Edward Bartolo
Quote from golinux's last reply: "You assume that a teacher is necessary. But anyone who wants to learn WILL learn if they are motivated. There are geeks who have even skipped college and made a go of it. If you're in the 'system', the quality of teachers is always a crapshoot these days and the

Re: [DNG] Identity of OP (Software written by contractors and the 'work for hire') concept

2017-07-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Christopher Clements (bcn...@gmail.com): > Sorry, just asking a question. I have a habit of wording things > negatively. No worries. No offence taken. (Seriously.) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bi

Re: [DNG] Identity of OP (Software written by contractors and the 'work for hire') concept

2017-07-29 Thread Christopher Clements
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:54:21PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Christopher Clements (bcn...@gmail.com): [...] (The person being a non-attorney dishonestly claiming to be one can be inferred from this conduct being against professional ethics. I'm not going to get into the details of why.

Re: [DNG] Identity of OP (Software written by contractors and the 'work for hire') concept

2017-07-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Christopher Clements (bcn...@gmail.com): > How do you know this is MikeeUSA? Writing style and diction, very distictively characteristic themes and claims, patterns of posting in various other places in addition to here. (Web-search if you wish to see that.) I therefore concur with Adam

Re: [DNG] Identity of OP (Software written by contractors and the 'work for hire') concept

2017-07-29 Thread Christopher Clements
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 01:33:09AM -0400, Christopher Clements wrote: On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 11:56:41AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Narcis Garcia (informat...@actiu.net): El 29/07/17 a les 16:12, Antony Stone ha escrit: On Saturday 29 July 2017 at 13:55:54, ni...@redchan.it wrote: (borin

Re: [DNG] Identity of OP (Software written by contractors and the 'work for hire') concept

2017-07-29 Thread Christopher Clements
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 11:56:41AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Narcis Garcia (informat...@actiu.net): El 29/07/17 a les 16:12, Antony Stone ha escrit: > On Saturday 29 July 2017 at 13:55:54, ni...@redchan.it wrote: >> (boring legal stuff) [...] (Oh, I hope someone will add ni...@redchan.it

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-29 Thread Christopher Clements
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 09:16:51PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: On 2017-07-29 20:40, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 20:49:00 -0400 Robert Marmorstein wrote: >>> My high-school programming class was advertised as teaching >>> people how to >>> program in C and do all sorts of low-leve

Re: [DNG] [OT] High level language primitives (Was: Please keep 32-bits alive)

2017-07-29 Thread Christopher Clements
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 05:09:50AM -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 16:41:01 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: In an ideal word, software would have - maximum performance - minimum resource usage - minimum of dangerous bugs In an ideal world, software would ha

Re: [DNG] KVM + QEMU on Devuan 1.0

2017-07-29 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Svante Signell writes: > On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 12:06 +0200, alberto.se...@tin.it wrote: >> Hello, >> >> everyone has tried installing and using kvm + qmeu on Devuan 1.0 ? > > Yes, several instances. No problem :) > > Download: > wget https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/installer-iso/devuan_je

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-29 Thread golinux
On 2017-07-29 20:40, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 20:49:00 -0400 Robert Marmorstein wrote: > >>> My high-school programming class was advertised as teaching > >>> people how to > >>> program in C and do all sorts of low-level stuff. I signed up > >>> thinking I might finally meet a "

[DNG] Introduction to Kivy and Bottle Wednesday, 8/2/2017

2017-07-29 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, If anyone will be near Orlando 8/2/2017, you can see my Intro to Kivy and Bottle presentation at GoLUG. Details: http://golug.org If you like software that stands on its own with minimal dependencies, Bottle's spectacular, and Kivy's pretty darn good (though it's a somewhat substantial

Re: [DNG] KVM + QEMU on Devuan 1.0

2017-07-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 12:06:21 +0200 "alberto.se...@tin.it" wrote: > Hello, > > everyone has tried installing and using kvm + qmeu on Devuan 1.0 ? > I haven't, but I've run Devuan in a qemu guest (hosted by Void Linux), and it runs spectacularly. SteveT Steve Litt July 2017 featured book:

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 20:49:00 -0400 Robert Marmorstein wrote: > > >>> My high-school programming class was advertised as teaching > > >>> people how to > > >>> program in C and do all sorts of low-level stuff. I signed up > > >>> thinking I might finally meet a "computer expert" that actually > >

Re: [DNG] KVM + QEMU on Devuan 1.0

2017-07-29 Thread Daniel Abrecht
I'm using qemu + kvm using libvirt on a devuan server. I only use libvirt + qemu + kvm to emulate two FreeBSD and a Windows 7 system. One of the FreeBSD systems is a pfSense firewall, where I didn't configure a display, but a serial console instead. I use VNC to connect to the other FreeBSD system.

Re: [DNG] KVM + QEMU on Devuan 1.0

2017-07-29 Thread Alberto Senni
Il 29/07/2017 19:39, Narcis Garcia ha scritto: El 29/07/17 a les 19:08, Svante Signell ha escrit: On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 12:06 +0200, alberto.se...@tin.it wrote: Hello, everyone has tried installing and using kvm + qmeu on Devuan 1.0 ? Yes, several instances. No problem :) Download: wget h

Re: [DNG] Software written by contractors and the 'work for hire' concept

2017-07-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): [falsely claiming to be an attorney:]> > Isn't this illegal in the US? A false statement that one is an attorney isn't (as far as I know). Giving legal advice without being a licensed attorney in the applicable jurisdiction is, that being a violatio

Re: [DNG] Software written by contractors and the 'work for hire' concept

2017-07-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 11:56:41AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > (Oh, I hope someone will add ni...@redchan.it to the list at > http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/MikeeUSA . Let's not promote that site, it appears just as bonkers as MikeeUSA himself, just in a different direction. Even Encyclopaedia

[DNG] Software written by contractors and the 'work for hire' concept

2017-07-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Narcis Garcia (informat...@actiu.net): > El 29/07/17 a les 16:12, Antony Stone ha escrit: > > On Saturday 29 July 2017 at 13:55:54, ni...@redchan.it wrote: > > > >> It has come to my attention that some entities are claiming that you, > >> dear Linux Hackers, (1)need to go through some fo

Re: [DNG] Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.

2017-07-29 Thread Narcis Garcia
El 29/07/17 a les 16:12, Antony Stone ha escrit: > On Saturday 29 July 2017 at 13:55:54, ni...@redchan.it wrote: > >> It has come to my attention that some entities are claiming that you, >> dear Linux Hackers, (1)need to go through some foundation or get some >> permission from upon high in-order

Re: [DNG] KVM + QEMU on Devuan 1.0

2017-07-29 Thread Narcis Garcia
El 29/07/17 a les 19:08, Svante Signell ha escrit: > On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 12:06 +0200, alberto.se...@tin.it wrote: >> Hello, >> >> everyone has tried installing and using kvm + qmeu on Devuan 1.0 ? > > Yes, several instances. No problem :) > > Download: > wget https://files.devuan.org/devuan_j

Re: [DNG] KVM + QEMU on Devuan 1.0

2017-07-29 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 12:06 +0200, alberto.se...@tin.it wrote: > Hello, > >   everyone has tried installing and using kvm + qmeu on Devuan 1.0 ? Yes, several instances. No problem :) Download: wget https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/installer-iso/devuan_jessie _1.0.0_amd64_NETINST.iso Creat

[DNG] MikeeUSA warning (Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.)

2017-07-29 Thread Adam Borowski
This is obvious, but to save us a yet another troll thread: it's another of MikeeUSA's sockpuppet accounts. Meow! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ What Would Jesus Do, MUD/MMORPG edition: ⣾⠁⢰⠒⠀⣿⡁ • multiplay with an admin char to benefit your mortal ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ • abuse item cloning bugs (the five fishes + two breads affa

[DNG] Article on Devuan in German regular iX

2017-07-29 Thread Christoph Lechleitner
Hi everybody! The reputable German IT magazine iX has a 3 page article on Debian stretch (including how to switch to sysvinit) and Devuan 1.0 (and how to switch from Debian) in it's August issue, https://shop.heise.de/katalog/ix-08-2017 on pages 64 to 66. Unfortunately the article does not seem

Re: [DNG] Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.

2017-07-29 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 29 July 2017 at 13:55:54, ni...@redchan.it wrote: > It has come to my attention that some entities are claiming that you, > dear Linux Hackers, (1)need to go through some foundation or get some > permission from upon high in-order to sue the progenitors of GRSecurity Example? Antony

[DNG] KVM + QEMU on Devuan 1.0

2017-07-29 Thread alberto.se...@tin.it
Hello, everyone has tried installing and using kvm + qmeu on Devuan 1.0 ? Thanks Alberto Senni --- Questa e-mail è stata controllata per individuare virus con Avast antivirus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-29 Thread Robert Marmorstein
> >>> My high-school programming class was advertised as teaching people how > >>> to > >>> program in C and do all sorts of low-level stuff. I signed up thinking > >>> I might finally meet a "computer expert" that actually knew what they > >>> were talking about... > >>> > >>> The teacher began

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

2017-07-29 Thread Robert Marmorstein
> Wouldn't this work? (no error checking of course XD) > > off_t lseek(int fd, off_t offset, int whence); > ssize_t write(int fd, const void *buf, size_t count); > > ssize_t pwrite(int fd, const void *buf, size_t count, off_t offset) { > lseek(fd, offset, SEEK_SET); >

[DNG] Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.

2017-07-29 Thread nisus
It has come to my attention that some entities are claiming that you, dear Linux Hackers, (1)need to go through some foundation or get some permission from upon high in-order to sue the progenitors of GRSecurity for their violation of section 6 of the terms underwhich the linux kernel is distri

Re: [DNG] High level language primitives [ was Please keep 32-bits alive]

2017-07-29 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 29/07/2017 à 09:41, Olaf Meeuwissen a écrit : Hi, Didier Kryn writes: In an ideal word, software would have - maximum performance - minimum resource usage - minimum of dangerous bugs In an ideal world, software would have *no* bugs ;-) And zero resource usage

Re: [DNG] High level language primitives [ was Please keep 32-bits alive]

2017-07-29 Thread Ron
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 16:41:01 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > In an ideal word, software would have > > > > - maximum performance > > - minimum resource usage > > - minimum of dangerous bugs > > In an ideal world, software would have *no* bugs ;-) > > > - easy maintai

Re: [DNG] High level language primitives [ was Please keep 32-bits alive]

2017-07-29 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Didier Kryn writes: > In an ideal word, software would have > > - maximum performance > - minimum resource usage > - minimum of dangerous bugs In an ideal world, software would have *no* bugs ;-) > - easy maintainability > - fast development > - what else?

Re: [DNG] High level language primitives [ was Please keep 32-bits alive]

2017-07-29 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 27/07/2017 à 16:18, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult a écrit : On 27.07.2017 08:22, Didier Kryn wrote: At first glance at least, it means that file offsets are managed in the kernel or VFS Of course they are. That's required for any sane multiprocessing implementation. And some files/devic