Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 5 May 2018 01:31:58 +0200 marc wrote: > > > On top of that I'll only buy hardware that can be free software > > > down to the bios. It should be nothing to them what runs in the > > > bios, so I'll wait and see if they can be more flexible there > > > (for however

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread taii...@gmx.com
I am curious as to if there is a point when the major OEM's simply give up providing security updates for the latest CPU issues or if they will start doing it in batches as there are just so many of them. I hope that the security world will also test AMD_x64, POWER, RiscV, ARM and ARM64 for these

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread chillfan
I would agree that I don't want to bash them, I think it's better to just explain that a blob still exists in those products and the problems with the modems. ​Cheers, chillfan ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On May 4, 2018 10:52 PM, Daniel Abrecht wrote: >

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread marc
> > On top of that I'll only buy hardware that can be free software down > > to the bios. It should be nothing to them what runs in the bios, so > > I'll wait and see if they can be more flexible there (for however long > > it takes). > > I've been trying that for a while now, but my server is

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 05:19:22PM -0500, Jamey Fletcher wrote: > > I'd prefer to see chips from scratch, rather than patching on features > > late in the game. We can be pretty sure chip makers will only patch > > problems as they are found instead of redesigning their chips to prevent > > future

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 17:29:24 -0400 "taii...@gmx.com" wrote: > Purism is a very dishonest company and their > phone is yet another example of faux-freedom hardware like their > laptops, they do absolutely nothing to address the real issues like the > baseband problem. Not in

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread Jamey Fletcher
> I'd prefer to see chips from scratch, rather than patching on features > late in the game. We can be pretty sure chip makers will only patch > problems as they are found instead of redesigning their chips to prevent > future problems. The problem with doing that is you find yourself facing all

Re: [DNG] Firefox does analytics in browser

2018-05-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 4 May 2018 17:50:50 +0200, Dr. wrote in message <201805041750.50383.dr.kl...@gmx.at>: > Am Freitag, 4. Mai 2018 schrieb Adam Borowski: > > Although it's interesting how they can have the gall to label > > something that siphons all of your browsing data as > > "privacy-oriented search

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread Daniel Abrecht
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2018-05-04 20:03, Rick Moen wrote: >> Librem 5 phone coming next year for me. > Ah, Librem. Let's see: > https://web.archive.org/web/20161010040458/https://blogs.coreboot.org/

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 05/04/2018 02:52 PM, chill...@protonmail.com wrote: > Well that's only my method of dealing with it.. generally I think it's worth > waiting for them to properly fix some problems first. At least then people > vote for what they want from them based on what they're prepared to buy. > >

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Andrew McGlashan (andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au): > But whilst I still can, I'll at least run my own servers and rely on the > "cloud" as little as possible. Indeed, outsourcing in general is pernicious enough, but outsourcing to unknown infrastructure run by unknown strangers

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 05/05/18 04:04, Hendrik Boom wrote: > It may not be an option unless I want to get out of computing > altogether. The problem is that everything has got a computer in it these days and I too fear that the only option to avoid all the bad-ness going on is to opt out of computing as well

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread chillfan
Well that's only my method of dealing with it.. generally I think it's worth waiting for them to properly fix some problems first. At least then people vote for what they want from them based on what they're prepared to buy. Likely next build for me is ASUS KGPE-D16 with libreboot, I'll still

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 08:28:23AM -0400, chillfan wrote: > I'd prefer to see chips from scratch, rather than patching on features > late in the game. We can be pretty sure chip makers will only patch > problems as they are found instead of redesigning their chips to > prevent future problems.

Re: [DNG] Firefox does analytics in browser

2018-05-04 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Freitag, 4. Mai 2018 schrieb Adam Borowski: > Although it's interesting how they can have the gall to label something that > siphons all of your browsing data as "privacy-oriented search experience". LOL ... newspeak everywhere you look: When it's called "expert", you know it does not know

Re: [DNG] Firefox does analytics in browser

2018-05-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 05:37:29PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > At least in Germany, official builds of Firefox bundle Cliqz malware; > according to an announcement they start with a small portion of users and > want to ramp up to all of them in the future. No idea if non-mozilla.org > (such as

Re: [DNG] Firefox does analytics in browser

2018-05-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 11:04:19AM -0400, chill...@protonmail.com wrote: > I noticed this hasn't come up yet. > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/01/sponsored_links_come_to_firefox/ > > So, it would look like people have only until ESR changes then they'll be > stuck with that problem, at

[DNG] Firefox does analytics in browser

2018-05-04 Thread chillfan
I noticed this hasn't come up yet. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/01/sponsored_links_come_to_firefox/ So, it would look like people have only until ESR changes then they'll be stuck with that problem, at least for the US builds unless they can do it for everyone. ​Cheers, chillfan

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread chillfan
I'd prefer to see chips from scratch, rather than patching on features late in the game. We can be pretty sure chip makers will only patch problems as they are found instead of redesigning their chips to prevent future problems. My reaction to the situation is that I'll no longer buy new