Re: [DNG] Conversion script: was Formail for managing digests

2019-12-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 10:13:01 +0100 Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > Dear All, > > Inits need to understand unit files, give them that functionality. > That is far more efficient compared to what you are doing. > > Pseudo Code: > 1) check for the presence of a unit file > 2) if it exists > a)

Re: [DNG] Conversion script: was Formail for managing digests

2019-12-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 09:02:14 +0100 Denis Roio wrote: > On Sat, 30 Nov 2019, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 07:21:54PM +0100, Massimo Coppola wrote: > > > > > > > > If (assuming that) we are going to lose the source of init scripts > > > upstream, then it's the only way

Re: [DNG] Conversion script for maintainers

2019-12-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 23:04:56 + s@po wrote: > > I believe you are talking about Situation 1)( Give SysVInit the > Knowledge about SystemD unitFiles.. )? I thought this was settled law. Debian has sysvinit scripts, dropped ones can be gotten from Wheezy, and in other cases there exists a

Re: [DNG] Conversion script for maintainers

2019-12-03 Thread s
Hello all, >Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 10:13:01 +0100 >From: Edward Bartolo via Dng >Dear All, > >Inits need to understand unit files, give them that functionality. >That is far more efficient compared to what you are doing. > >Pseudo Code: >1) check for the presence of a unit file >2) if it exists

Re: [DNG] Conversion script: was Formail for managing digests

2019-12-03 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 12/3/19 10:02 AM, Denis Roio wrote: > My opinion however is this: maintaining a *unique package* of version > controlled init scripts in Devuan is much, much easier than > maintaining a sysvinit script in each different package, forking it. > > I'm not sure about pressing counter-arguments

Re: [DNG] Conversion script for maintainers

2019-12-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Dec 03, 2019 at 08:58:10AM +0100, Denis Roio wrote: > I wholeheartedly agree with all your reasoning, quoted below. I don't > think that converting automatically at init or at package install is a > good idea: we need to keep this process under scrutiny by maintainers, > hoping more

[DNG] [OT] reboot did not work on Systemd based system

2019-12-03 Thread dev via Dng
Had to reboot a Debian based system this weekend to apply kernel patches but it would not reboot. All commands (poweroff -p, reboot, init 6) would return with this error message or similar: Failed to start reboot.target: Transaction is destructive. See system logs and 'systemctl status

Re: [DNG] How to change the action of the computer's power button?

2019-12-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 16:32:59 +0100, Stephane wrote in message : > Le 02/12/2019 à 16:03, Mark Hindley a écrit : > > Did you mean no you don't have elogind installed? > > It's in status "p" in Dpkg > > > > If so, what are you using? pm-utils? > > Apparently yes > For example, "pm-suspend"

Re: [DNG] How to change the action of the computer's power button?

2019-12-03 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Stephane Ascoet writes: > Le 02/12/2019 à 15:23, Mark Hindley a écrit : >> Are you using elogind? If so you can change the defaults in >> /etc/elogind/logind.conf. > > Thanks for the answer but no, and it happens even in TTYs, so I assume > it's the set at a low-level in system Hmm, also

Re: [DNG] Conversion script for maintainers

2019-12-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 08:58:10 +0100, Denis wrote in message <20191203075810.twxmme6ayyccbftf@reflex>: > > dear Massimo, > > you are very welcome :^) I'm happy to see here a fellow VUA :^D > > down to business ..thanks for talking good sense here, Denis and Massimo. :o) > > > If (assuming

Re: [DNG] Conversion script for maintainers

2019-12-03 Thread Denis Roio
dear Massimo, you are very welcome :^) I'm happy to see here a fellow VUA :^D down to business > If (assuming that) we are going to lose the source of init scripts > upstream, then it's the only way forward. (For those who consider > recognizing the unit files as a valid source a defeat: I

Re: [DNG] Conversion script: was Formail for managing digests

2019-12-03 Thread Denis Roio
On Sat, 30 Nov 2019, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 07:21:54PM +0100, Massimo Coppola wrote: > > > > > If (assuming that) we are going to lose the source of init scripts > > upstream, then it's the only way forward. (For those who consider > > recognizing the unit files as a