Re: [DNG] (forw) Re: Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread freemedia via Dng
Steve Litt said: > > An init system is not an isolated component, but is deeply integrated > in the core layer of the system and affects many packages. > > Ummm, the preceding

Re: [DNG] (forw) Re: Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Larry De Coste via Dng
-Original Message- From: Steve Litt To: dng@lists.dyne.org Sent: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] (forw) Re: Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd And people wonder why I despise the Debian project. === Not me. Don't forget Obarun & S6. The latest JWM

Re: [DNG] Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:18:33 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 14/12/2019 à 11:55, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : > >> The problem is: where do you run, > >> when there's no place to hide (in linux world)? > > ..we drop Debian as the un-viable upstream it has become, and > > move on with Slackware and

Re: [DNG] (forw) Re: Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 07:19:08 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Why suggest secondary sources? > > https://www.debian.org/vote/2019/vote_002 I just read the preceding link and noticed the following sentence in their "choice 1": An init system is

Re: [DNG] Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:10:56 +0100 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > It's just politics. Or religion. The problem is: where do you run, > when there's no place to hide (in linux world)? Devuan, *BSD, Funtoo, any distro using musl. Probably several others. As I remember, it was always the plan for

[DNG] Fw: Re: What about the boost c++ libraries?

2019-12-14 Thread s
>Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:56:13 +0100 >From: Aitor > > Only *boost-iostream* and *boost-filesystem* are required in > simple-netaid so far, even though I could do the same job using only > the stardard c++11, of course. > I say this because once somebody said (here, in the mailing list) "no

Re: [DNG] (forw) Re: Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting John Hughes : > Why suggest secondary sources? Editor Jon Corbet and the other main authors at LWN.net are excellent at giving reasonable interpretation and context for stories about Linux and open source. On a good day, many of the reader comments are helpful, too. > Britton Kerin

[DNG] (forw) Re: Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Rick Moen
Forwarding back on-list. - Forwarded message from John Hughes - Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:10:52 +0100 From: John Hughes To: Rick Moen Subject: Re: [DNG] Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd On 14/12/2019 04:30, Rick Moen wrote: > > My advice: Wait for the LWN.net

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-12-14 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 15 Dec 2019, at 00:51, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > > Having migrated from buster to beowulf, using wicd as the network manager, > how does one rename network interfaces from "persistent names" to old, > numbered, ones?

Re: [DNG] Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Bernard Rosset via Dng
More talk is the last thing they want. Debating is hard, and requires many human qualities, like empathy, selflessness, lust for common good, long-term intuition & thinking, "self-rigorousness". It becomes increasingly & especially difficult when other people do not share your views. It is

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-12-14 Thread Bernard Rosset via Dng
Having migrated from buster to beowulf, using wicd as the network manager, how does one rename network interfaces from "persistent names" to old, numbered, ones? Bernard Rosset https://rosset.net/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 12/13/19 8:55 PM, Steve Litt wrote: = Begin forwarded message: - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 7b77e0f2-4ff9-4adb-85e4-af249191f27a [ 3 ] Choice 1: F: Focus on systemd [ 1 ] Choice 2:

Re: [DNG] What about the boost c++ libraries?

2019-12-14 Thread Aitor
Hi again, On 14/12/19 12:41, Aitor wrote: Hi all, Some months ago i rewrote the backend of simple-netaid, and now i'm spending good time doing the same with the frontend. Reading documents, i found some useful features in the boost c++  libraries: https://www.boost.org/ Only

[DNG] What about the boost c++ libraries?

2019-12-14 Thread Aitor
Hi all, Some months ago i rewrote the backend of simple-netaid, and now i'm spending good time doing the same with the frontend. Reading documents, i found some useful features in the boost c++  libraries: https://www.boost.org/ Only *boost-iostream* and *boost-filesystem* are required in

Re: [DNG] Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 14/12/2019 à 11:55, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : The problem is: where do you run, when there's no place to hide (in linux world)? ..we drop Debian as the un-viable upstream it has become, and move on with Slackware and Gentoo etc and the *BSD unices.     Void, Adélie ...

Re: [DNG] Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:10:56 +0100, Dr. wrote in message <201912141010.56327.dr.kl...@gmx.at>: > Anno domini 2019 Fri, 13 Dec 23:49:42 -0600 > goli...@devuan.org scripsit: > > On 2019-12-13 23:31, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > > > > > > I'm really disgusted the way that Debian is going.

Re: [DNG] Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2019 Fri, 13 Dec 23:49:42 -0600 goli...@devuan.org scripsit: > On 2019-12-13 23:31, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > > > > I'm really disgusted the way that Debian is going. What happened to > > the > > "universal Linux" > > > > Cheers > > A. > > > > And what happened to