Re: [DNG] kernel instability 4.9.0-12 with latest update

2020-03-16 Thread tuxd3v
Hello Riccardo, >On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 12:19:52 +0100 >Riccardo Mottola via Dng >wrote: > Hi, > > > I am using Devuan on an HP laptop with intel 64bit cpu. Everything > worked very well, I did a lot of compilation and it is very stable, > never had a freeze in months! > > [    0.10]

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-16 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mar 16, 2020, tom wrote: > On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 08:38:04 -0400 > Dan Purgert wrote: > > > On Mar 15, 2020, tom wrote: > > > [...] The biggest technical problem is the > > > lack of ASIC northbridge, or rather something to interface the CPU > > > to an PCIE bus. Currently the best thing

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed?

2020-03-16 Thread Gastón via Dng
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:27:50PM -0300, Gastón wrote: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 03:16:58PM -0800, tom wrote: > > On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 16:50:15 + > > Mark Hindley wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 05:44:17PM +0100, Alessandro Vesely via Dng > > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > is

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-03-16 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting spiralofhope (spiralofh...@spiralofhope.com): > If memory serves, GTK3 has had a history of incredibly stupid decisions > mid-version which broke a number of things like aspects of themes. For > example, my GTK3 apps no longer have underlined hotkeys until I hold > the alt key. Quite.

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-03-16 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > Your comment is a general truth but LXDE is a special case: [...] You just talked all _around_ my point, but didn't address it. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-03-16 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@devuan.org (goli...@devuan.org): > There are always exceptions to broad generalizations. This camp has > many LXDE aficionados who might find your declaration that LXDE is > dead rather counterproductive. As a reminder, I said the _project_ is dead, not that LXDE is. That

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-16 Thread tom
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 08:38:04 -0400 Dan Purgert wrote: > On Mar 15, 2020, tom wrote: > > [...] The biggest technical problem is the > > lack of ASIC northbridge, or rather something to interface the CPU > > to an PCIE bus. Currently the best thing available you can get is > > an FPGA and it is a

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-03-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 15:23:18 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting goli...@devuan.org (goli...@devuan.org): > > > Have you read the beowulf release notes? > > I'm a bit behind, sorry. > > > LXDE is available and quite functional with a few caveats. > > I'm sure it is. My comment is

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-03-16 Thread spiralofhope
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 12:03:53 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > LXDE > is one of many projects who looked at the dismaying near-total rewrite > required for migrating to GTK3 (and GTK's increasing GNOME-centric > nature) and made the agonising decision to bail and migrated sideways > to Qt. If memory

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-03-16 Thread golinux
On 2020-03-16 17:23, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting goli...@devuan.org (goli...@devuan.org): Have you read the beowulf release notes? I'm a bit behind, sorry. LXDE is available and quite functional with a few caveats. I'm sure it is. My comment is nonetheless a general truth. LXDE is

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-03-16 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@devuan.org (goli...@devuan.org): > Have you read the beowulf release notes? I'm a bit behind, sorry. > LXDE is available and quite functional with a few caveats. I'm sure it is. My comment is nonetheless a general truth. LXDE is effectively a several-years-dead project.

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-03-16 Thread golinux
On 2020-03-16 14:03, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting al3xu5 / dotcommon (dotcom...@autistici.org): I think LXDE could be a good compromise for me, because it has openbox but it is faster to configure and more "close" in use for those who come from a different "ready-made" DM... Be aware that LXDE

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-03-16 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting al3xu5 / dotcommon (dotcom...@autistici.org): > I think LXDE could be a good compromise for me, because it has openbox but it > is faster to configure and more "close" in use for those who come from a > different "ready-made" DM... Be aware that LXDE is EOLed and pretty much has no

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-03-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 16:56:36 +0100 al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > Someone asked why wanting to change MATE, the reason is the concern > of being sooner or later "forced" to do so in case MATE evolves too > much in directions that do not seem "appropriate" to me (systemd > oriented deps,

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-03-16 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
25/02/2020 16:29:58 +0100 al3xu5 / dotcommon : > So what you suggest should be the first choice to bet on? First of all I would like to thank you all for the many interesting and useful answers. As I mentioned, my desire is to have a highly usable, easily configurable, stable over time UI.

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-16 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mar 15, 2020, tom wrote: > [...] The biggest technical problem is the > lack of ASIC northbridge, or rather something to interface the CPU to > an PCIE bus. Currently the best thing available you can get is an FPGA > and it is a severe bandwidth bottleneck. It's also super expensive > getting

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-16 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mar 14, 2020, Mark Rousell wrote: > I am not opposing your central message in any way, but... > > On 13/03/2020 02:59, Steve Litt wrote: > > involves programming, and most people can't > > do that. > > > > Oh really? 12 lines of code and they can't do it (or have a friend help > > do it)? > >

Re: [DNG] xbattmon

2020-03-16 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi Steve, Steve Litt wrote: > A few weeks ago we discussed simple, works-on-all-wmde components like > fbpanel. Another one that I like is xbattmon. It's a no-frills battery > monitor that presents as a very thin horizontal "gauge" across the > bottom of the screen, whether or not you have a

[DNG] kernel instability 4.9.0-12 with latest update

2020-03-16 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, I am using Devuan on an HP laptop with intel 64bit cpu. Everything worked very well, I did a lot of compilation and it is very stable, never had a freeze in months! [    0.10] smpboot: CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200  @ 2.00GHz (family: 0x6, model: 0xf, stepping: 0x6) [   

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-16 Thread tom
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 17:20:51 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 01:20:24PM -0700, tom wrote: > > > > But this may be a stop-gap if you /really/ need to get an X86 > > machine you already have running. My advice is to stop buying X86 > > in the future and invest in other arches.