[DNG] FWIW Re: Ascii to Beowulf

2020-06-12 Thread terryc
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 12:49:28 +0200 Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > Hi all! > > I just upgraded from ascii to beowulf a pretty decent laptop, equipped > with a core i7 and 8GB of RAM. > > I upgraded everything in place: so same desktop environment, same > applications, same hard disk... just

[DNG] ascii > beowulf upgrade report (home server)

2020-06-12 Thread Alexander Bochmann
Upgraded my shell server at home yesterday, and ran into a couple of problems. None of them were specific to Devuan though, as far as I can see - all the affected packages were inherited from Debian, and most of the trouble was due to certain configuration details on my system. Anyway, maybe

[DNG] Preparation for upgrade to beowulf

2020-06-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
It's getting to be time for me to upgrade my ascii server to beowulf. But I have some worries, having heard people have had problems with said upgrade. What I absolutely need after the upgrade is a text console and network cnnectivity. Because this is my link to the rest of the world, and if

Re: [DNG] Orange Pi Zero/Orange Pi PC

2020-06-12 Thread richard lucassen via Dng
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 04:41:17 -0700 Rick Moen via Dng wrote: > > Yes and no: > > > > -n Use SNTP (old RFC 2030, currently RFC 5905) instead of the RFC > > 868 time protocol. > > > > # rdate -n ntp.xs4all.nl > > Fri Jun 12 12:07:04 CEST 2020 > > Point taken. SNTP _is_ worthy of respect

Re: [DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade - 32% slowdown !

2020-06-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 03:21:28PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 15:44:38 +0200 > Bastiaan van den Berg wrote: > > > Maybe try ; https://make-linux-fast-again.com/ kerneloptions to > > disable all spectre and meltdown stuff > > I hope you mean the preceding as a diagnostic

Re: [DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade - 32% slowdown !

2020-06-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 15:44:38 +0200 Bastiaan van den Berg wrote: > Maybe try ; https://make-linux-fast-again.com/ kerneloptions to > disable all spectre and meltdown stuff I hope you mean the preceding as a diagnostic test and not as a solution. SteveT Steve Litt May 2020 featured book:

Re: [DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade - 32% slowdown !

2020-06-12 Thread viverna
il devuanizzato Bastiaan van den Berg il 12-06-20 15:44:38 ha scritto: Maybe try ; https://make-linux-fast-again.com/ kerneloptions to disable all spectre and meltdown stuff Experimented slowdown me too. Thanks for reminding me this site. Joking, risky and written immediately one line

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-12 Thread richard lucassen via Dng
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 17:01:14 +0200 "J. Fahrner via Dng" wrote: > Any ideas how to debug this problem? > > This is the fstab entry: > > LABEL=Elements /hdd ext4 defaults 0 2 Try to add "nofail" or "noauto": LABEL=Elements /hdd ext4 defaults,nofail 0 2 LABEL=Elements /hdd ext4

Re: [DNG] eudev-related problems after Beowulf upgrade

2020-06-12 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 6/12/20 10:05 AM, David Kuehling via Dng wrote: > > - during startup, the LVM init.d-script hangs for a very long time > repeatedly outputting errors of the form > > WARNING: Device /dev/xxx not initialized in udev database even after > waiting 1000 microseconds. > To get rid of

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-12 Thread tempforever
J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Hi, > I'm running Devuan Beowulf on an Odroid C2 mini computer. Since it's > internal flash disk is limited, I run it with an external usb drive > attached. > When this disk is active in /etc/fstab the boot process hangs forever. I > can ping it, so networking is

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 12/06/2020 16:01, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Hi, > I'm running Devuan Beowulf on an Odroid C2 mini computer. Since it's internal > flash disk is limited, I run it with an external usb drive attached. > When this disk is active in /etc/fstab the boot process hangs forever. I can > ping it, so

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 12/06/2020 16:01, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Hi, Hi, I know *nothing* about Odroid > I'm running Devuan Beowulf on an Odroid C2 mini computer. Since it's internal > flash disk is limited, I run it with an external usb drive attached. > When this disk is active in /etc/fstab the boot process

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-12 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 12-06-2020 17:01, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Hi, > I'm running Devuan Beowulf on an Odroid C2 mini computer. Since it's > internal flash disk is limited, I run it with an external usb drive > attached. > When this disk is active in /etc/fstab the boot process hangs forever. > I can ping it, so

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-06-12 17:01, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > I'm running Devuan Beowulf on an Odroid C2 mini computer. Since it's > internal flash disk is limited, I run it with an external usb drive > attached. When this disk is active in /etc/fstab the boot process > hangs forever. Distribution kernel or

Re: [DNG] eudev-related problems after Beowulf upgrade

2020-06-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 12/06/2020 15:05, David Kuehling via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > I upgraded three machines from Devuan ascii to Devuan beowulf. Now one > of these machines has non-deterministic problems during startup that > look like being related to eudev. As that machine was originally > derived by cloning the

[DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-12 Thread J. Fahrner via Dng
Hi, I'm running Devuan Beowulf on an Odroid C2 mini computer. Since it's internal flash disk is limited, I run it with an external usb drive attached. When this disk is active in /etc/fstab the boot process hangs forever. I can ping it, so networking is started, but I cannot login, because

[DNG] eudev-related problems after Beowulf upgrade

2020-06-12 Thread David Kuehling via Dng
Hi, I upgraded three machines from Devuan ascii to Devuan beowulf. Now one of these machines has non-deterministic problems during startup that look like being related to eudev. As that machine was originally derived by cloning the hard-disk of another machine that works fine, I suspect this

Re: [DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade - 32% slowdown !

2020-06-12 Thread Bastiaan van den Berg
Maybe try ; https://make-linux-fast-again.com/ kerneloptions to disable all spectre and meltdown stuff ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Devuan Git Migration

2020-06-12 Thread Mark Hindley
Friends, The Devuan project is changing its git repository manager from GitLab to Gitea[1]. The main motivation for this change is to avoid the excessive server resource consumption of the GitLab instance. It has also become increasingly difficult to incorporate necessary security fixes without

Re: [DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade - 32% slowdown !

2020-06-12 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, On 12/6/20 8:49 pm, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > Hi all! > > I just upgraded from ascii to beowulf a pretty decent laptop, equipped > with a core i7 and 8GB of RAM. > > I upgraded everything in place: so same desktop environment, same > applications, same hard disk... just "apt-get

Re: [DNG] Beowulf upgrade from Ubuntu

2020-06-12 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 08:29:01 -0700 kdibble wrote: I'm glad you got things sorted out. Several of the things you mentioned would have frustrated me. > 5) Started adding a couple packages and apt asked for cdrom. I assumed > it wanted usb stick, mounted it and nope, it wants a cdrom. Go in and

Re: [DNG] Orange Pi Zero/Orange Pi PC

2020-06-12 Thread Rick Moen via Dng
Quoting richard lucassen (mailingli...@lucassen.org): > Yes and no: > > -n Use SNTP (old RFC 2030, currently RFC 5905) instead of the RFC > 868 time protocol. > > # rdate -n ntp.xs4all.nl > Fri Jun 12 12:07:04 CEST 2020 Point taken. SNTP _is_ worthy of respect -- but I'd personally

Re: [DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade - 32% slowdown !

2020-06-12 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 12-06-2020 12:49, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > Hi all! > > I just upgraded from ascii to beowulf a pretty decent laptop, equipped > with a core i7 and 8GB of RAM. > > I upgraded everything in place: so same desktop environment, same > applications, same hard disk... just "apt-get

[DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade - 32% slowdown !

2020-06-12 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi all! I just upgraded from ascii to beowulf a pretty decent laptop, equipped with a core i7 and 8GB of RAM. I upgraded everything in place: so same desktop environment, same applications, same hard disk... just "apt-get dist-upgrade" essentially. I even kept gcc6 because I had it before and I

Re: [DNG] Orange Pi Zero/Orange Pi PC

2020-06-12 Thread richard lucassen via Dng
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 01:19:50 -0700 Rick Moen via Dng wrote: > > Have a look at "rdate": > > I'm glad it works for you, but no. > > RFC 868 Time Protocol was obsoleted when NTP became ubiquotous in the > 1980s. IMO, there's no point in keeping rdate(8) around when there > are multiple good NTP

Re: [DNG] Orange Pi Zero/Orange Pi PC

2020-06-12 Thread Rick Moen via Dng
Quoting richard lucassen (mailingli...@lucassen.org): > Have a look at "rdate": I'm glad it works for you, but no. RFC 868 Time Protocol was obsoleted when NTP became ubiquotous in the 1980s. IMO, there's no point in keeping rdate(8) around when there are multiple good NTP implementations

Re: [DNG] Orange Pi Zero/Orange Pi PC

2020-06-12 Thread richard lucassen via Dng
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 15:09:37 -0700 Rick Moen via Dng wrote: > If running ntpdate, depending on how much skew there is from correct > time, you might need the '-B' option. Quoting the man page: Have a look at "rdate": $ apropos rdate rdate (8)- set the system's date from a remote