[DNG] Question

2020-08-24 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
Greetings A friend and mentor in all things Linux was a proponent of Devuan. Sadly he died some months ago so I now have to ask those I don't know possibly stupid questions. I have run Debian systems for some 15 to 18 years (can't remember when I switched from Fedora Core but a long time ago).

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread Dimitri Minaev via Dng
Directory entry? вс, 23 авг. 2020 г., 21:56 Steve Litt : > On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 03:19:12 -0700 > spiralofhope wrote: > > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 09:59:53 -0400 > > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > > Is there an establiched word in the Linux/Unix xommunity > > > for something which might be a file or a

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:15:52 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > So if we were to use fd as short for file-or-directory it could > better be short for file descriptor. Not in my opinion. Some people get infuriated when confronted with "insider" acronyms, which is what fd sounds like. Also, fd is

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread Harald Arnesen via Dng
Curtis Maurand via Dng [24.08.2020 16:30]: > in plan9 everything is an object. Not at all. Everything is a file, not an object, whatever that is. -- Hilsen Harald ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:43:26AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 8/24/20 10:32 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > Mu memory may be failing ne after almost half a century, but I recall > > that the original Unix, way back in the early 70's, > > even directories could be read as files. Not

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 8/24/20 10:32 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Mu memory may be failing ne after almost half a century, but I recall > that the original Unix, way back in the early 70's, > even directories could be read as files. Not that there was > some hidden trickery making them into files; instead there

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 23/08/2020 14:59, Hendrik Boom wrote: > There are files and directories. > > Is there an establiched word in the Linux/Unix xommunity > for something which might be a file or a directory? Directories are just files that contain file metadata information in a format specific to the filesystem

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 03:15:22PM +0200, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 08:52:55 -0400 > fsmithred via Dng wrote: > > > I was told that everything in linux is a file, even your hardware. > No,no, this is plan9... As well as its successor, Inferno. Lots of things are files in

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread Curtis Maurand via Dng
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Luciano Mannucci > wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 08:52:55 -0400 > fsmithred via Dng wrote: > >> I was told that everything in linux is a file, even your hardware. > No,no, this is plan9... > it’s been fun reading this thread. in

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread Luciano Mannucci
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 08:52:55 -0400 fsmithred via Dng wrote: > I was told that everything in linux is a file, even your hardware. No,no, this is plan9... Luciano. -- /"\ /Via A. Salaino, 7 - 20144 Milano (Italy) \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN / PHONE : +39 2 485781 FAX:

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 8/23/20 6:37 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2020-08-23 17:20, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> >> I suspect that's what I'm going to have to do. >> Unless something better comes along I'm calling it a Thing. >> I do hope something better comes along. >> >> -- hendrik > > From my early Linux days I

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread karl
Hendrik: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 01:51:05AM +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > Hendrik: > > > There are files and directories. > > > > > > Is there an establiched word in the Linux/Unix xommunity > > > for something which might be a file or a directory? > > > > One could possible use "file

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, On 23/08/2020 15:59, Hendrik Boom wrote: There are files and directories. Is there an establiched word in the Linux/Unix xommunity for something which might be a file or a directory? if you refer to the "string" to object on the filesystem, "path" is a good word for it. A Path can