Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

2021-05-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 05 May 2021 19:04:10 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi Martin, list, > Martin Steigerwald writes: > > > Hi! > > > > goli...@devuan.org - 02.05.21, 22:15:48 CEST: > >> On 2021-05-02 06:08, terryc wrote: > >> > Unfortunately there are systemd libraries installed by > >> >

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

2021-05-05 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Olaf Meeuwissen - 05.05.21, 12:04:10 CEST: > No libsystemd0 on my beowulf machine but I did find it on a chimaera > system I installed just a few days ago (using the alpha installer). > > Curiousity peaked, I hunted it down and it turns out that my console > only chimaera system installed it to

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

2021-05-05 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Ludovic, list, Ludovic Bellière writes: > Hi terryc, > > Those are *not* systemd libraries. They're services files or helpers > shipped with the various packages you install. Correct. > It is not possible to get > rid of them without forking nearly all debian packages, This is not quite

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

2021-05-05 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Martin, list, Martin Steigerwald writes: > Hi! > > goli...@devuan.org - 02.05.21, 22:15:48 CEST: >> On 2021-05-02 06:08, terryc wrote: >> > Unfortunately there are systemd libraries installed by >> > Devuan-beowulf >> > desktop installation DVD. >> >> [snip] >> >> And they are harmless. >> >>

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

2021-05-05 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 5/5/21 11:49 π.μ., ο/η Dr. Nikolaus Klepp έγραψε: And there's alway the possibillity of 3rd party software, e.g. Teams, Appimages, ... true... i misread original question, thought it was asking about devuan installation process and not already installed systems.. d.

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

2021-05-05 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2021 Wed, 5 May 11:42:09 +0300 Dimitris via Dng scripsit: > only thing i can think of, is by installing unverified firmware files > from a removable drive during installation, mainly because i'm not sure > how verifiable firmware blobs are... > every other package (including a DE)

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

2021-05-05 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 4/5/21 11:05 μ.μ., ο/η Arnt Karlsen έγραψε: So, there ya go: Avoid installing and running it. It's called system administration simple and powerful advice :) ..very true. Are there ways to trick common Devuan installs into automatically installing these bad things? (Other than