Re: [DNG] kernels (was Re: Devuan with usr merge?)

2021-11-13 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 13 Nov 2021 22:20:32 +0100 (CET) k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Steve Litt: > > k...@aspodata.se said on Sat, 13 Nov 2021 12:42:51 +0100 (CET) > > >Steve Litt: > ... > > >> Which brings up another beef I have: Why don't they build Ext4 and > > >> maybe a couple other mainstream filesystems

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

2021-11-13 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Steve Litt - 13.11.21, 23:24:51 CET: > By the way, for the person who really wants the usr merge, wouldn't > the conversion from an unmerged system consist of two mass copies and > a few symlinks? No. At least not if you like dpkg to be working fine. As I noted before, see:

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

2021-11-13 Thread Steve Litt
k...@aspodata.se said on Sat, 13 Nov 2021 22:28:02 +0100 (CET) >James Cloos: >> > John Morris via Dng writes: >> > So yes, it is time to eliminate /bin, /sbin and /lib. >> the real result shod be eliminate /usr. > >Guys, please don't push unnessary changes and policies >to the user.

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

2021-11-13 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 13/11/2021 à 20:46, Steve Litt a écrit : > k...@aspodata.se said on Sat, 13 Nov 2021 12:42:51 +0100 (CET) > >> Steve Litt: >>> John Morris via Dng said on Fri, 12 Nov 2021 17:26:52 -0600 On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 01:56 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: >> ... The size of the OS is just so

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

2021-11-13 Thread karl
James Cloos: > > John Morris via Dng writes: > > So yes, it is time to eliminate /bin, /sbin and /lib. > the real result shod be eliminate /usr. Guys, please don't push unnessary changes and policies to the user. Let each and everyone be the master of his/her own systems. Just because

[DNG] kernels (was Re: Devuan with usr merge?)

2021-11-13 Thread karl
Steve Litt: > k...@aspodata.se said on Sat, 13 Nov 2021 12:42:51 +0100 (CET) > >Steve Litt: ... > >> Which brings up another beef I have: Why don't they build Ext4 and > >> maybe a couple other mainstream filesystems into the kernel, so if I > >> want, I can boot without initramfs? What would it

Re: [DNG] nano hard line wrap

2021-11-13 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/13/21 19:41, Haines Brown wrote: I was left frustrated when nano 4.0 dropped hard line wrap as the default. But I have had no luck re-implementing it. I'm running nan 5.4-2. Man nanorc says there is the set/unset nowrap. I tried unset nowrap, but it had no effect. How do I recover a

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

2021-11-13 Thread Steve Litt
k...@aspodata.se said on Sat, 13 Nov 2021 12:42:51 +0100 (CET) >Steve Litt: >> John Morris via Dng said on Fri, 12 Nov 2021 17:26:52 -0600 >> >On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 01:56 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: >... >> >The size of the OS is just so small now, compared to storage media >> >and data files.

Re: [DNG] nano hard line wrap

2021-11-13 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/13/21 19:41, Haines Brown wrote: [snip] > How do I recover a hard wrrap at 70 in nano? Isn't that done with 'set breaklonglines' now? /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

2021-11-13 Thread James Cloos via Dng
> John Morris via Dng writes: > So yes, it is time to eliminate /bin, /sbin and /lib. the real result shod be eliminate /usr. system packages should all use --prefix=/, local ones should default to --prefix=/local, and closed src crap^Wstuff should use things like /opt/FOO for a prefix.

[DNG] nano hard line wrap

2021-11-13 Thread Haines Brown
I was left frustrated when nano 4.0 dropped hard line wrap as the default. But I have had no luck re-implementing it. I'm running nan 5.4-2. Man nanorc says there is the set/unset nowrap. I tried unset nowrap, but it had no effect. How do I recover a hard wrrap at 70 in nano? -- Haines

Re: [DNG] eudev issue after beowulf upgrade

2021-11-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hello Svante, On 11/13/21 1:32 PM, Svante Signell wrote: Preparing to unpack .../eudev_3.2.9-9~beowulf1_amd64.deb ... Since release 198, udev requires support for the following features Hello, this bug has been solved by 3.2.9-10~beowulf1 available from beowulf-proposed-updates. Or directly

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

2021-11-13 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Samstag, 13. November 2021 schrieb Didier Kryn: > Le 13/11/2021 à 08:48, Didier Kryn a écrit : > > Le 13/11/2021 à 00:26, John Morris via Dng a écrit : > >> So yes, it is time to eliminate /bin, /sbin and /lib. > > > >     Seems I've got it wrong. My understanding was that /usr/bin and > >

Re: [DNG] eudev issue after beowulf upgrade

2021-11-13 Thread Svante Signell via Dng
On Sat, 2021-11-13 at 13:07 +0100, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > Hello, > > > I upgraded from ascii to beowulf, almost everything smooth exceot eudev > which does not upgrade due to this: > > Preparing to unpack .../eudev_3.2.9-9~beowulf1_amd64.deb ... > Since release 198, udev requires

[DNG] eudev issue after beowulf upgrade

2021-11-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hello, I upgraded from ascii to beowulf, almost everything smooth exceot eudev which does not upgrade due to this: Preparing to unpack .../eudev_3.2.9-9~beowulf1_amd64.deb ... Since release 198, udev requires support for the following features in the running kernel: - inotify(2)   

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

2021-11-13 Thread karl
Steve Litt: > John Morris via Dng said on Fri, 12 Nov 2021 17:26:52 -0600 > >On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 01:56 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: ... > >The size of the OS is just so small now, compared to storage media and > >data files. Even a small SSD will easily hold all of /usr for all but > >the most

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge? initramfs

2021-11-13 Thread ael via Dng
On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 09:32:38AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > >     I now understand the concern of Steve: it looks like the beginning > of an attempt to force initramfs on people, even if it is not effective yet. I too dislike having to use initramfs rather than having the essential modules

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

2021-11-13 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 13/11/2021 à 08:48, Didier Kryn a écrit : > Le 13/11/2021 à 00:26, John Morris via Dng a écrit : >> So yes, it is time to eliminate /bin, /sbin and /lib. >     Seems I've got it wrong. My understanding was that /usr/bin and > /usr/sbin were merged into /bin and /sbin. You assume the opposite