Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread Steve Litt
Peter Duffy said on Fri, 19 Nov 2021 11:29:32 + >I've recently been asked to recommend an upgrade route for a number of >linux servers, and I proposed going to devuan. In response, I've had a >concern raised which took me by surprise. It was suggested that in the >future, it may not be

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread golinux
On 2021-11-19 16:03, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: I’m waiting to see what comes out of the systemd replacement software in development by Laurent Bercot, the developer of s6. The project now has a corporate sponsor so it would appear someone sees a commercial benefit of his proposed design.

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 19 Nov 2021, at 22:29, Peter Duffy wrote: > > I've recently been asked to recommend an upgrade route for a number of > linux servers, and I proposed going to devuan. In response, I've had a > concern raised which took me by surprise. It was suggested that in the > future, it may not be

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread Adrian Zaugg
Hi Peter Under normal circumstances an admin does not have to get in touch with the init system or start-up mechanisms too much: If the job by the package maintainer is done, it works as intended. In case of non-packaged software, when a startup-script is missing, it might be a little bit

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread hal
On 11/19/21 05:29, Peter Duffy wrote: I'd be grateful for thoughts and comments. Welp, I've been a nix admin long enough that I still have some Redhat 5.1 CDs around here somewhere.. back from when Redhat wasn't such a corporate pr#ck. I see Devuan in the exact same place Linux was all

Re: [DNG] Error updating local repository

2021-11-19 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
- Original Message - From: "onefang" To: Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] Error updating local repository On 2021-11-18 15:15:01, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: Today it has begun error while trying to update a local daedalus repository. Until

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng
Anno domini 2021 Fri, 19 Nov 13:56:17 +0100 al3xu5 via Dng scripsit: > Fri, 19 Nov 2021 13:45:48 +0100 - "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng" > : > > > Anno domini 2021 Fri, 19 Nov 07:33:09 -0500 > > Rich W via Dng scripsit: > > > Sadly, this will probably never change. > > > > > > They used the same

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread al3xu5 via Dng
Fri, 19 Nov 2021 13:45:48 +0100 - "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng" : > Anno domini 2021 Fri, 19 Nov 07:33:09 -0500 > Rich W via Dng scripsit: > > Sadly, this will probably never change. > > > > They used the same argument to choose Windows adimins over Linux ones > > in the past. > > Which

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng
Anno domini 2021 Fri, 19 Nov 07:33:09 -0500 Rich W via Dng scripsit: > Sadly, this will probably never change. > > They used the same argument to choose Windows adimins over Linux ones in > the past. Which basicly translates to "I want to pay less". Nik > > -Rich > (Apologies if gmail client

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread Rich W via Dng
Sadly, this will probably never change. They used the same argument to choose Windows adimins over Linux ones in the past. -Rich (Apologies if gmail client messed up this thread) On Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 7:14 AM Antony Stone < antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it> wrote: > On Friday 19 November

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 19 November 2021 at 12:14:31, Antony Stone wrote: > On Friday 19 November 2021 at 12:06:48, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 19/11/2021 à 12:29, Peter Duffy a écrit : > > > I've recently been asked to recommend an upgrade route for a number of > > > linux servers, and I proposed going to

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 19 November 2021 at 12:06:48, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 19/11/2021 à 12:29, Peter Duffy a écrit : > > I've recently been asked to recommend an upgrade route for a number of > > linux servers, and I proposed going to devuan. In response, I've had a > > concern raised which took me by

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 19/11/2021 à 12:29, Peter Duffy a écrit : > I've recently been asked to recommend an upgrade route for a number of > linux servers, and I proposed going to devuan. In response, I've had a > concern raised which took me by surprise. It was suggested that in the > future, it may not be possible

[DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread Peter Duffy
I've recently been asked to recommend an upgrade route for a number of linux servers, and I proposed going to devuan. In response, I've had a concern raised which took me by surprise. It was suggested that in the future, it may not be possible to find staff who have the skills to administer and

Re: [DNG] Error updating local repository

2021-11-19 Thread onefang
On 2021-11-18 15:15:01, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: >Today it has begun error while trying to update a local daedalus >repository. >Until this morning everything worked well >  >xz: (stdin): File format not recognized >Failed: xz -d