Re: [DNG] [3.0] Time in AM/PM format ??

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 06:37:44PM +0200, Dario Niedermann wrote: > `date` suddenly tells the time in 12-hour format, regardless of $TZ > (be it empty or 'Europe/'). > > Who told it to do that? I certainly didn't. > > I had already noticed this before the recent switch to DST. I bet your locale

Re: [DNG] Remote two-way sound?

applications only talk PulseAudio, you'd also need to configure PA to use JACK for input and output; I haven't tried this myself. Cheers, -- Adam Sampson <http://offog.org/> ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https

Re: [DNG] How to firewall on Devuan?

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 07:26:35AM -0700, Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > If I understand correctly, the iptables cli that we use now is just a > wrapper around nftables. Actually, there are two independent subsystems. They're managed by two userspace tools: * iptables-legacy * iptables-nft

Re: [DNG] info request

ater 5.10 stable versions. I was seeing the same thing with early 5.10 kernels, but I've had no trouble since 5.10.9. -- Adam Sampson <http://offog.org/> ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/

Re: [DNG] snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 01:36:30AM +0100, Adrian Zaugg wrote: > So, then use DANE. This. DANE is the only way to have reasonably secure TLS that's actually somewhat deployed in the world (not at all for browsers, well on its way for SMTP). Instead of trusting all of thousands of CAs, you trust

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 04:05:27PM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 12/4/20 3:56 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > > "1989tiananmen". > > > a different password worked. > > maybe it's too common? did you try adding special/more characters? I don't normally u

Re: [DNG] Oldstable and Archive timing expectations?

On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:43:25PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > I have a lot of systems running ascii and no plan to upgrade them yet. I > > don't want to upgrade when ascii is archived but before. Do you think 6 > > more months of ascii support a safe bet? > > You might want to have a

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

First, an anecdote: to track sleep problems I have, I bought a cheapest smartband, a Huawei one. It has almost no controls on its own, and it's UI needs a dumbphone (Google or Apple infested) via Bluetooth. Because $REASONS¹ I happen to carry two phones, one of them such a dumbphone, with no IP

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 09:35:18AM -0700, Fred wrote: > Hi, > Crossgrading looks like a huge can of worms. The wiki page seems to imply > that systemd must be installed. If I wanted systemd I would have stayed on > Debian. To the contrary: systemd makes crossgrading impossible, if it's running.

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 01:12:01PM +1100, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > On 26 Nov 2020, at 13:02, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 05:34:16PM -0700, Fred wrote: ^^ Unrelated: Gregory, please fix your mail client to not insert invalid control characters. > >> I think

Re: [DNG] No Sound in XFCE Beowulf - Pulsaudio

On Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 10:53:48PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > Maybe because not all users of devuan want pulseaudio to be spawned by > default on their systems. Like on Debian, the way to do so is clear: apt purge pulseaudio I find no reason to keep useless packages installed. Like other

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 02:46:37PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote: > On 2020-10-28 07:47, Rick Moen wrote: > > I continue to like projects that are limited in feature scope enough to > > not live or die by corporate underwriting. E.g., mutt continues to be > > maintainable by a small group of

Re: [DNG] terminology

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 08:37:07AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Is there an establiched word in the Linux/Unix xommunity > > for something which might be a file or a directory? > > Therefore it looks to me more like an implementation > > detail than a sensible concept. > > I do

Re: [DNG] LightDM password expired localization

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 04:17:39PM +0200, Joril via Dng wrote: > I'm testing out what happens on Beowulf when a user password expires. The > process isn't very user-friendly, but the biggest problem is that not all > the messages from the UI are localized (the machine will be used by >

Re: [DNG] Non-systemd Linux for older hardware (was: Devuan Jessie End of Life (EOL) archiving)

On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 02:36:23PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 08:18:37PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Unless it is not just the kernel but also glibc or something somehow not > > working on older hardware. > > It may well be that the newer hardware has machine

Re: [DNG] Debian abandons LSB

On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 04:04:33PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: > While upgrading a system to Beowulf, I noticed this in the changelogs. > Is this one of those "it was fizzling out anyway so no big deal" things, or > another policy change by Debian ? Not really bothered, just curious. LSB was a

Re: [DNG] Installing birdtray on Beowulf

On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 12:38:17PM +1000, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > birdtray on Beowulf is 1.5-1 but thunderbird on Beowulf has Breaks: > birdtray (<< 1.7.0+ds-1~) so it won’t install with apt. thunderbird had a new major version uploaded to stable recently. Thus, please file a bug

Re: [DNG] AMD Ryzen?

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 02:02:08PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 06:24:27PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > Does anyone here have experience of running Devuan on AMD Ryzen CPUs? Similar results on 2990WX (a gen older). With systemd, there's a hard power-off (with a nasty

Re: [DNG] FF now defaults to DNS-over-HTTPS for US

On Sun, Mar 01, 2020 at 05:08:28PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Just great! So how can we keep off this cloudflare thing? > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/25/mozilla_turns_on_dns_over_https_by_default_for_usa/ There was a thread on (IIRC) debian-devel about this a while ago, with

Re: [DNG] I'm sorry for my post

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 07:48:55AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > I'm very sorry for my post a few minutes ago. I thought I was writing > directly to Fig. Rick, I'm very sorry: I meant that advice to go to > one person. It wasn't anywhere near the level of rudeness seen on lists like this. Nor the

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 04:52:50PM -0600, John Morris wrote: > Can't use fstrim in the VMs because qemu / libvirt doesn't support it yet. It does if you use virtio-scsi instead of virtio-blk; same for scsi passthrough or even fake-hardware emulation of regular scsi. Meow! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ A MAP07

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 08:06:26PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > I really don't think data-loss is an acceptable compromise just to > > reduce wear. > > Lack of a journal doesn't necessarily mean data loss. It just means > that you might need to run fsck.ext4 on the drive after unmounting. >

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

On Fri, Nov 08, 2019 at 04:13:58PM +, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 08/11/2019 15:36, Joril via Dng wrote: > > On 08/11/19 16:21, g4sra via Dng wrote: > >> FYI: ext4 filesystem journaling (and swap) *should* be disabled by default > >> on SD\SDHC media. > > > > To reduce wear? > There is good

Re: [DNG] Devuan sparc port

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 09:02:13AM -0700, Fred wrote: > Hello, > > Will there ever be a sparc64 port of Devuan? Very very likely no. The focus of this distribution is fixing systemd caused regression, not porting. And reviving the arch would require a lot of effort: Sparc is dead. Oracle

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Future of gNewSense: Debian or Devuan?

On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 06:46:20PM +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote: > Devuan will be a great basis for your development. The work to do is > not complex. I myself was able to remove all Non-Free Software on my > own and install Linux Libre bundled with Jason Self. > Good news, everything works as

Re: [DNG] EvilGnome spyware

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 10:06:36PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting goli...@devuan.org (goli...@devuan.org): > > EvilGnome: A New Backdoor Implant Spies On Linux Desktop Users > > https://thehackernews.com/2019/07/linux-gnome-spyware.html > > My view: The only _actually interesting question_ in

Re: [DNG] date of publication of beowulf

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 05:40:54PM +0200, Basati wrote: > hello > > Can anyone tell me if there is an approximate date for the publication of > beowulf? The rule is same as that of Debian's release team: Quando paratus est. (Did this altum videtur enough? :p) > buster has been published as

Re: [DNG] ASCII on rpi1 & resize root partition?

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 01:06:24PM +0200, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Am 2019-06-26 07:58, schrieb Thomas Besser via Dng: > > what's the easiest way to resize the root partition to the full size > > of the sdcard? > > > > On raspbian it is done with 'raspi-config' which is not available in > >

Re: [DNG] email clients: was Where to reply for Steve Litt

On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 06:42:02PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Um, dunno, sorry. I don't do emacs. (I'm a sysadmin, not a coder. > C-x C-c is just about all the emacs I know -- the commands to get the > hell out.) Switch to another session, kill -9. This has the upside of working with other

Re: [DNG] Way forward

On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 09:07:44PM +0200, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > You really think that the numbers working on the linux kernel are > somehow comparable to the numbers working on Devuan? Every person working on the linux kernel is working on Devuan. Every Debian developer is

Re: [DNG] Way forward

On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 03:53:41PM +0200, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > Well Devuan needs that luck even more. I do not like systemd but it is > supported by those hated corporations (not only Red Sweat). And they > will pay for removing all those bugs. For Devuan the question has

Re: [DNG] Way forward

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:24:39AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:41:53AM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > Do we want to emphasise purely "sans-systemd", or do we want to promote > > "freedom of init choice"? > > The problem with the phrase "freedom of init choice" is that

Re: [DNG] Way forward

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:41:53AM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > Do we want to emphasise purely "sans-systemd", or do we want to promote > "freedom of init choice"? > > I'nm not suggesting that we should include systemd in what Devuan provides > (!), but I just think the phrase "freedom of

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 12:27:25PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > On Mon April 1 2019 12:18:53 Antony Stone wrote: > > If this incident has made you distrust the Devuan project, you're probably > > better off using a different distro. > > Are you a sysadmin? Are you responsible for other people's

Re: [DNG] probem with mutt after upgrade to beowulf

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 05:30:16PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I have just upgraded to beowulf from ascii. > > Suddently mutt will not accept a backspace to scroll upwards one line > while reading a text email. In buster/beowulf, to get sane mutt you need "apt install neomutt". And it doesn't

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

On Sat, Mar 09, 2019 at 11:01:43AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Mar 09, 2019 at 02:34:28AM -0600, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > Oh, my . . . how fast and how hard Debian has fallen . . I am all for > > shining light into dark, dank places. What a terrific idea to track > > down all the

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 11:44:49AM -0600, Jamey Fletcher wrote: > >> Not on this Debian Buster machine. Both /var/lib/dbus/machine-id and > >> /etc/machine-id have a date/time consistent with the initial system > >> installation back in October. The machine has been rebooted a number of > >>

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 02:23:20PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > but first things first: do we want /etc/machine-id? and how? > this is currently managed by eudev in devuan and, IIRC, it is simply > regenerated as a random ID at each boot. > we concluded that keeping it around but re-generating it

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 12:56:53AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: >   Please tell us.  When you need to do firewalling, what do you use and why? > > 1) ipfwadm > > 2) ipchains > > 3) iptables An interesting example you made here... -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ Have you accepted Khorne as your

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 07:22:37AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am: > >   Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place > > of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig and iwconfig: > > The terms "obsolete" and

Re: [DNG] ..should we set up our own usage policy wizard script?, was: OpenSSH: delay on beowulf

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 08:24:45PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > But *what* exactly are you claiming is "calling home"? Do you have any > real example of what you say or the rant just spilled off the tinfoil > hat? > > Please stop spreading FUD. If you don't need ssh, mail, or whatever > otherq

Re: [DNG] Installing Steam on Devuan

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 08:55:23PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 10/02/19 at 01:20, hal wrote: > > Are there i386 devuan packages available? Kind of. >   No, as it's proprietary software: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_(software) Which is non-free distributable. Both Debian

Re: [DNG] SOLVED: slashes in FAT file names

On Sun, Jan 06, 2019 at 01:10:04PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 11:26:43AM +0200, Eric Pozharski wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 01, 2019 at 06:22:34PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > Far too slow. Running for a full 18 hours found nothing, and it > > > looked as if it had

Re: [DNG] slashes in FAT file names

rward, so you could fire up a hex editor like "tweak" on the block device, do a string search for the invalid filename, and overwrite it with something more reasonable. -- Adam Sampson <http://offog.org/> ___

Re: [DNG] Drive-by critique

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 11:29:29AM +, Simon Hobson wrote: > In part, Linux adoption is held back by it's perceived difficulty - such > as having to go and find drivers for your hardware. Well, about that... Not so long ago I helped a relative by installing Redmontware. It was a long,

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 03:38:01PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 20/12/2018 à 15:32, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : > > On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 00:59:35 +1100, Ralph wrote in message > > : > > > > > There is this notion of "kexec boot"; I've never tried it, but it's > > > documentation claims "kexec is a

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 06:19:39PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > It is my view that the configuration program should be capable of being > > run at any time after installation, even multiple times on separate > > occasions as required. > > I am not sure what you exactly mean here. The installer

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 04:58:00PM +, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 18/12/2018 03:48, Steve Litt wrote: > > [snip] > > Perhaps reframing it would make a difference. Perhaps renaming the > > second program "Install Software" (install_software), and having it > > boot into install_software, would

Re: [DNG] Devuan for Raspberry Pi fried SD CARD.

On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 10:33:44AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 03/12/18 at 10:05, Adam Borowski wrote: > > realtime greatly reduces atime writes, but it's still too much. > >   I wouldn't say so.  Since relatime updates atime only relative to the > present ctime an

Re: [DNG] Devuan for Raspberry Pi fried SD CARD.

On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 02:05:29PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 03.12.18 00:47, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 11:53:39PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > On 02/12/18 at 17:23, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > > You'd want to set noatime on eve

Re: [DNG] Devuan for Raspberry Pi fried SD CARD.

On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 11:53:39PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 02/12/18 at 17:23, Adam Borowski wrote: > > You'd want to set noatime on every machine > > you control. > > >   Some mail servers and clients do use it to determine if a mail was > read after it a

Re: [DNG] Devuan for Raspberry Pi fried SD CARD.

On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 12:06:03PM +0100, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > On 02-12-18 11:41, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > The purpose of this email is to ask how to radically minimized write > > cycles to the SD CARD when I run Devuan for Raspberry Pi 3. I found a > > how-to which uses /tmp

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 04:40:52PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 01:30:53PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > > > > Compiling a kernel locally to include inline essential hardware drivers > > is so simple I _think_ I could teach even a Republican Party voter how > > to do it. ;->

Re: [DNG] Participate to the first Devuan Conference in Amsterdam!

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 04:00:03PM +0100, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Adam: > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 03:03:57PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > > > Also, don't sweat the language thing. Especially in the > > > Netherlands where everyone seems to speak English with breathtaki

Re: [DNG] Participate to the first Devuan Conference in Amsterdam!

On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 03:03:57PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Also, don't sweat the language thing. Especially in the > Netherlands where everyone seems to speak English with breathtaking > acuity, you'd have zero problem. Walking around Glasgow, you might find > the brogue bewildering, but in

Re: [DNG] merging /tmp

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 02:40:31PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 06:47:42PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > > > >     In my last install, I still had /tmp and /var on separate partitions, > > but I'm questionning the validity of such a setup. > > It's useful to have /tmp on a

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie + Huawei USB modems

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 01:28:00PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 23/11/18 at 12:02, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > > On 11/22/18 4:28 PM, ael wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 03:10:15PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > >>> > >>> What is needed to install so that Devuan Jessie recognizes Huawei >

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:17:21PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > 1) A separate /usr serves no practical purpose on a Debian/Devuan system > >Historically, /usr was separately mountable, shareable over NFS. With a > package manager like dpkg, / and /usr are an integrated, managed whole. >

Re: [DNG] no-usr-merged: let's get concrete

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 12:17:45PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > Hi All, > > in the last few days we have seen many people going at lengths with > the pros and cons of a non-merged usr. That has been a great > discussion. We have put together a solution that consists into > choosing if you want

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 01:49:19PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: >   In my opinion, install CD/DVDs are one case in which the merge makes > sense, as you inevitably have a single filesystem on the media anyway.  Such a merge on a single filesystem causes no problems, but has no benefits either.

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 12:22:18AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: >   I'm well aware of the present limitations that make it impossible to > let Devuan be an indipendent distribution: too little manpower behind it > and too llittle corporate/VC support for it.  It could well be that > Devuan will

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 11:22:59AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 02:20:30PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > > I note without objection (but rather with active appreciation, on > > entertainment grounds) that every single one of your talking point so > > far -- including the one above

Re: [DNG] Security Jessie VS ASCII

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 07:41:19PM +0300, Andres Suarez wrote: > Hello everybody, > > From the security point of view: Is it worth to update from Jessie to > ASCII? Do you see any significant advantage? I do no use any exotic software. Yes. Upstream (Debian) Jessie is only in LTS, which, as

Re: [DNG] Red Hat ends KDE support

On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 10:27:40AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > J. Fahrner - 06.11.18, 10:21: > > Next step after systemd: Red Hat ends KDE support. > > Gnome will be the only supported dekstop environment. > > As I wrote there, I do not think there is much to see or anything to > really

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 11:14:01PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: >   AFAIK the customizations concern mainly the graphical interface, the > presence of some drivers specific to the new device and a particular > selection of applications Sounds to me that fixing regressions in a base distribution

Re: [DNG] The D in Systemd stands for 'Dammmmit!'

On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:01:15AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 29/10/2018 à 22:42, Adam Borowski a écrit : > > Well, it is possible to use strcpy() right. On the other hand, _every_ use > > of strncpy() for a C string is a bug. > >     Let's assume "the programm

Re: [DNG] The D in Systemd stands for 'Dammmmit!'

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 01:28:02PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Daniel Taylor (ran...@argle.org): > > > They do, but that's not an excuse for using strcpy(). > > > > Which they did. > > Of course, obviously. You _are_ aware I was merely trying to help by > pointing out that strncpy (etc.)

Re: [DNG] How to unarchive an .xz

On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 12:39:39PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > I want to make a VM from devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_qemu.qcow2.xz > > After 15 minutes googling and reading Devuan docs, I have nothing that > works. How do I unarchive the file? Could you please put the method in > the README file?

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:37:13AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 08:50:51 -0400 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 09:17:13AM -0300, Fernando M. Maresca wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 04:20:36PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > > > Multiseating?

Re: [DNG] Olimex Teres A64

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 09:57:21AM -0700, Mike Schmitz wrote: > I have an Olimex Teres A64 coming in on Thursday. I was wondering if > anyone has gotten one of these working w/Devuan. > > The provide an Ubuntu image and an Android image for download from > Olimex. A64 is supported by newest

Re: [DNG] GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 05:27:39PM -0500, hal wrote: > On September 17, 2018 5:16:21 PM CDT, observerofaffa...@redchan.it wrote: > :: Regarding those who are ejected from the Linux Kernel Community after > :: > > Who was ejected? No one. But, you're responding to our dear MikeeUSA, this is

[DNG] thunderbird (was Re: DSA Ascii Sep17)

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 04:31:32PM +0100, leloft wrote: > Sun, 16 Sep 2018 20:54:24 + > [SECURITY] [DSA 4295-1] thunderbird security update > > Debian follows the Thunderbird upstream releases. Support for the 52.x > series has ended, so starting with this update we're now following the >

[DNG] removal of angband.pl nosystemd-* repos

Hi! Some of you still use my nosystemd repos (753 unique IP accesses within last two weeks). They haven't been updated in a long while, and I believe that by now they do more harm than good: outdated packages suffer from either uninstability, unfixed bugs, or even security issues. Thus, I've

Re: [DNG] OT: firefox, privacy etc.

On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 01:46:34PM +1000, terryc wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 03:34:27 +0200 (CEST) > wrote: > > > how an i possibly get local storage of login information to work > > again in firefox? > A history of what changes you made/have occurred might give people a > clue to give you

Re: [DNG] Which is the destiny of "Gksu" ?

On Sat, Sep 01, 2018 at 02:20:37PM +0200, J. Fahrner wrote: > Am 2018-09-01 14:10, schrieb fsmithred: > > Right. There is no gksu in sid/ceres or buster/beowulf. > > There is gksu in sid: > https://packages.debian.org/en/sid/gksu Nope. Per your own link, it's neither in buster nor unstable.

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 05:24:11PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): > > > Then there are local exploits. Ted Ts'o for example keeps fuzzying ext4 for > > years yet exploitable bugs still pop up frequently -- usually just DoS but > >

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:21:15PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > My point is that the chances there is a backdoor in the Linux kernel > are about as high as the chances tomorrow an alien ship abducts the world's > leaders to take them captive to another solar system Actually, it's pretty

Re: [DNG] Web browser needed

On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 08:14:20AM +1000, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > Since the HTTPS certification principle is based on domain names, it's hard > to understand in general how routers would be able to hold such certificates > (installed by vendors), and if they could, what value that would have in >

Re: [DNG] Web browser needed

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 10:09:37AM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: > Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > If the developpers are worried about users wandering into unsafe sites, > > I would understand a warning, but why the complete blockage ? > > > > And is there a way around it ? > > While not directly

Re: [DNG] who's tying up my port 80?

On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 12:01:06PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting k...@aspodata.se (k...@aspodata.se): > > > Nice, didn't know about the ss command. You can also use > > netstat -tulp > > lsof -i :80 > > 'netstat' in the 21st Century is spelled 'ss'. ;-> >

Re: [DNG] who's tying up my port 80?

On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 09:12:12PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I can't start lighttpd because something is already bound to port 80. > > How can I find out what's attached to this port? man ss ss -lp46 -- // If you believe in so-called "intellectual property", please immediately // cease

Re: [DNG] Home server replacement hardware suggestions?

On Sat, Jul 07, 2018 at 07:36:55AM -0700, spiralofhope wrote: > As they have USB 3 you can use an adapter or external bay for your > drive. Do not use the words "USB" and "disk" together, please -- in any context that involves basic reliability, and, especially, not corrupting data. -- // If

Re: [DNG] When 128?

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:17:38PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:16:28 -0400, Steve wrote in message > <20180620151628.0e132...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > > > There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought > > up another question in my mind: When will we

Re: [DNG] When 128?

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:16:28PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought up > another question in my mind: When will we have 128 bit computing? > > > 1971: 4bit: Intel 4004 > 1974: 8bit: Intel 8080 > 1978: 16bit: Intel 8086 > 1985:

Re: [DNG] Educating people (Was: One week into Devuan 2.0 ASCII -- Some stats)

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 07:08:36AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > At one time there were comments that not all packages were available on > amd64. Even today that can be true, especially for some third party > stuff. To wit, a prominent manufacturer of amateur radio equipment > offers utilities

Re: [DNG] One week into Devuan 2.0 ASCII -- Some stats

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:14:37PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..also possible to e.g. have i386 installer kernels test the cpu etc > hardware and go "Hey, your cpu can run the i586 kernel, upgrade?" Sounds like a great idea! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ There's an easy way to tell toy operating systems from

Re: [DNG] pgcli bash completion script included in the official package

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 07:52:51PM +0200, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote: > I wrote a bash completion script for the pgcli utility, a command line > interface for Postgres - https://www.pgcli.com/ > > I would like to get it included in the official package. > Shall I report a wishlist bug for Devuan or

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 32bit images

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 07:09:12AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > El 20/06/18 a las 02:16, Ozi Traveller escribió: > > Are the 32bit images 586 or 686? > > > > I think the Jessie images were 586. > > linux-4.9.x is built in 686 and 686-pae And more importantly, userland packages are built using 686

Re: [DNG] One week into Devuan 2.0 ASCII -- Some stats

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 05:36:22PM +0200, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 03:41:40PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 02:11:33PM +0200, KatolaZ wrote: > > > + amd64: 61% > > > + i386 24% > > > > This is troubling

Re: [DNG] One week into Devuan 2.0 ASCII -- Some stats

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 02:11:33PM +0200, KatolaZ wrote: > + amd64: 61% > + i386 24% This is troubling. There's a strong reason to deprecate i386, and relegate it to a level akin to mips or s390x -- ie, with security support but requiring a conscious decision to install. There are

Re: [DNG] ascii 2.0 installation confused by mount points

On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 02:08:29PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > The suggestion to disconnect the sda drive while I install the same > version of the operating system on sdc occurred to me, but I worried > about the effect of the resulting change in drive designations. In my > case, by

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 09:50:26PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > >     I also bet for RHEL because > >         1) it has much more derivatives than Suse and these will be > > placed in front of a BIG dilemma - what a fun for MS! > >         2) RHEL is already working to make this happen, by

Re: [DNG] wicd interferes with regular network admin tools

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 05:21:50PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 06:05:09AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > > I was recently suprised to observe network interfaces > > (wlan0 and eth0) going up without my issuing commands for > > it. I'd disable an interface, then see it go right back

Re: [DNG] Jessie -> Ascii upgrade breaks X

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 02:57:15PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 24. Mai 2018 schrieb Joel Roth: > > [...] (How nice to able to > > highlight and paste text again! Probably there is > > some way to do it in the console...) > > Install gpm and you have a nice working mouse in

Re: [DNG] Switching to OpenRC

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 05:53:56PM +1000, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Tue, 15 May 2018 23:39:24 +1000 > >> Tom wrote: > >> > >>> Thanks as always for your insightful information Steve. Much > >>> appreciated. As someone who knows very little about init systems, > >>>

Re: [DNG] popupmenu: a new dynamic menu in Gtk2 for WMs

On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 02:20:13PM +, aitor_czr wrote: > > A small comment: Can you adjust your clock (again). Perhaps change the CMOS > > battery? You are more than 1.5 hours ahead:( > > Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 23:54:39 + (18/05/18 01:54:39) > > Yes, only 1.5 hours ahead! > > >

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:18:24AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org): > > > I got a pm reply from Gottox, who said that their main problem at the > > moment seems to be re-acquiring access to the github account that > > contains all the packages. > > Maybe, the

Re: [DNG] installer on serial console / qemu

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:49:33AM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 05/17/2018 10:15 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > On 17/05/2018 at 10:05, Lars Noodén wrote: > >> On 05/17/2018 10:37 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: > >>> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 05:32:06AM +0300, Lars N

Re: [DNG] installer on serial console / qemu

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 05:32:06AM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > Typo aside, wouldn't that need to point to the serial console instead > and add, speed, parity, and word size? > > console=ttyS0,19200n8 Doesn't this default to 115200n8 these days? -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢰⠒⠀⣿⡁ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ Certified

Re: [DNG] Quagga only use systemd init scripts?

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:57:58AM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > Hello, > I noticed quagga 1.1.1-3+deb9u2 packages only have systemd config > files in /lib/systemd/system, they come with no /etc/init.d sysv scripts. Is > there something that can de done to have them in the .deb package

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