Re: [DNG] simple-netaid for daedalus

On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 10:43:25AM +0200, aitor wrote: > Hi Joel, > > On 10/9/22 8:36, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > I tried downloading and installing the packages one-by-one. > > Had some dependency problems (no details, sorry it was a > > while back.) Anyway not sure

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid for daedalus

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 02:17:56AM +0200, aitor wrote: > Hi Joel, > > On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 23:33:00 +0700 > Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > > Great that you're working on a new architecture for this program. > > Since upgrading to daedalus, I noticed that my old sn

Re: [DNG] devuan.org signature problem

On Thu, Sep 08, 2022 at 08:53:01PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > On Thursday 08 September 2022 at 19:52:20, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > > Upgrading a machine to daedalus, apt-get update returns this error: > > > > W: GPG error: http://deb.

[DNG] devuan.org signature problem

Hi list, Upgrading a machine to daedalus, apt-get update returns this error: W: GPG error: http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository (Amprolla3 on Nemesis) E: The repository

Re: [DNG] Mixer for alsa

On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:20:23AM +0200, al3xu5 via Dng wrote: > - other mixers for alsa? I do not know... aumix has an ncurses interactive mode much simpler than alsamixer, and also a command line mode. -- Joel Roth ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] mutt attachment problem

On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 02:56:08PM -0600, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: > 164MB! OMG! Repeat after me. "SMTP is not a file transport > protocol." The likelihood of being able to send a 164MB email message > from one random system on the net to another random system on the net > today is

Re: [DNG] Be prepared for the fall of systemd

On Fri, Aug 05, 2022 at 03:05:54PM +, jkinney23--- via Dng wrote: > On Thursday, August 4, 2022, 02:53:33 p.m. PDT, Bruce Perens via Dng > wrote: > > I haven't followed more modern experimental operating systems. Mostly you  > > don't hear as much about them these days, I think a > > lot of

[DNG] simple-netaid for daedalus

Hi Aitor, Great that you're working on a new architecture for this program. Since upgrading to daedalus, I noticed that my old sn didn't work properly. I didn't investigate further but have been looking to install a newer version. Currently apt-cache search netaid shows: simple-netaid-vte3 -

Re: [DNG] Wifi problem - dhclient times out with no reply - SOLVED

On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 08:54:06PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 00:38:05 -1000 > Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > > The problem seemed to be with my wifi configuration. > > I'd been using the 2.4GHz radio. Perhaps the settings, > > bas

Re: [DNG] Wifi problem - dhclient times out with no reply - SOLVED

On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 09:40:15AM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > Hi wifi veterans, > > I recently migrated my chimaera system to new hardware. The > wifi adapter is Broadcom BCM43228. Installing the > firmware-b43-installer package got this adapter working > normally.

Re: [DNG] Wifi problem - dhclient times out with no reply

I've resolved this problem with a workaround: I found a TPLINK r8188eu based usb wifi adapter that I managed to get working with little fuss. So I'm back to my regular wifi setup script using netaid (below). I also blacklisted the wl and b43 drivers which I won't be needing. FWIW, the router is

Re: [DNG] Wifi problem - dhclient times out with no reply

Hi Greg, On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 09:44:49PM -0700, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: > If I understand that you can associate with the access point through > wpa_gui, what does iwconfig(8) say? If iwconfig says the adapter is > associated with the access point, can you configure a static IP > address

Re: [DNG] Wifi problem - dhclient times out with no reply

or FIRMWARE have caused your wpa_supplicant to hang. Anyway you have a solution. Again, thanks to all for your generous help. joel On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 09:21:54PM +0100, aitor wrote: > Hi Joel, > > On 11/3/22 20:40, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > Hi wifi veterans, > > >

Re: [DNG] Wifi problem - dhclient times out with no reply

Hi Aitor, On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 09:21:54PM +0100, aitor wrote: > Hi Joel, > > On 11/3/22 20:40, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > Hi wifi veterans, > > > > I recently migrated my chimaera system to new hardware. The > > wifi adapter is Broadcom BCM43228. Installi

[DNG] Wifi problem - dhclient times out with no reply

Hi wifi veterans, I recently migrated my chimaera system to new hardware. The wifi adapter is Broadcom BCM43228. Installing the firmware-b43-installer package got this adapter working normally. After doing an apt-get upgrade, I can get a a wifi connection, for example using wpa_gui, however

Re: [DNG] Another reason for why I use Devuan

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 10:52:43PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 05:41:59PM -0800, Syeed Ali wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 15:25:05 -1000 > > Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 05:55:49PM -0700, Keith

Re: [DNG] Another reason for why I use Devuan

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 05:55:49PM -0700, Keith Christian via Dng wrote: > This describes the machine ID: > > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedesktop.org > %2Fsoftware%2Fsystemd%2Fman%2Fmachine-id.html So a creation of the freedesktop folks. -- Joel Roth ___

Re: [DNG] Another reason for why I use Devuan

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 03:03:54PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Hi! > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1958377/ > comments/13 > > as in Systemd does not configure the network if the machine has no > machine-id. > > You cannot make this up, or can you? Any

Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6

Thank you for this introduction. On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 02:14:37PM +, Simon wrote: > Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > > My problem is connecting via dhcp over ethernet. On IRC > > I was advised to try > > > > ping ff02::1%eth1 > > > > whic

Re: [DNG] Security implications of IPv4 vs IPv6 (was Re: Configuring ethernet port for IPv6)

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 12:36:46AM +1100, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > On 29 Jan 2022, at 18:22, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 01:22:57AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > > >> Joel Roth said on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 15:19:35 -1000 &

[DNG] Security implications of IPv4 vs IPv6 (was Re: Configuring ethernet port for IPv6)

On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 01:22:57AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: [redirecting to list, I think that's what you intended] > Joel Roth said on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 15:19:35 -1000 > >> On my next router, (probably OpenBSD/pf), I'm going to block all > >> IPV6. I enjoy that the badguys have to jump through

[DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6

-- Joel Roth --- Begin Message --- Hi Steve, Long time... > On my next router, (probably OpenBSD/pf), I'm going to block all IPV6. > I enjoy that the badguys have to jump through one more hoop (NAT) to > hit me where it hurts. IPv6 does have some security features lacking in IPv4. > I'm not

Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6 - broken hardware revealed by dmesg

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 05:50:37PM -0700, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:40:36PM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:05:06PM -0700, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: > > > Joel Roth wrote: > > > > Gregory Nowak wrot

Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6 - broken hardware revealed by dmesg

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:05:06PM -0700, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: > Joel Roth wrote: > > Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > Is there anything different in the dmesg(1) output for eth1 than > > > for your other interfaces? > > > > bingo: > > > > [467072.902423] e1000e :00:19.0 eth1: Hardware Error >

Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6 - broken hardware revealed by dmesg

0700, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 11:37:52AM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > > > It seems that my new router uses IPv6. Perhaps that means > > > > the ISP does so as well. > > > > > > Just because a router use

Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6

Oops, I missed a negative. I can add that I have **no** problem connecting to the router via wifi. ifconfig wlan2 shows both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses. Thank you for you attention! -- Joel Roth ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 11:37:52AM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > Hi veteran admins, > > It seems that my new router uses IPv6. Perhaps that means > the ISP does so as well. > > My problem is connecting via dhcp over ethernet. On IRC > I was advised to try > > p

[DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6

Hi veteran admins, It seems that my new router uses IPv6. Perhaps that means the ISP does so as well. My problem is connecting via dhcp over ethernet. On IRC I was advised to try ping ff02::1%eth1 which fails to get a response, indicating IPv6 is not enabled in my client. I tried setting

[DNG] Thank you, Devuan

I just installed chimaera on a 21" 2008 Intel iMac that will now be donated to a small school. So thank you Devuan team and community! It would have been e-waste as it's no longer possible to refresh the OS (El Capitan, the highest version that could be installed) because Apple no longer

Re: [DNG] Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 10:08:48PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Just in case sombody missed it: > > https://www.zdnet.com/article/nasty-linux-systemd-security-bug-revealed/ > > > "Systemd, the Linux system and service manager that has largely replaced init > as the master Linux startup

Re: [DNG] How to firewall on Devuan?

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 04:00:00PM +0200, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > So even though Beowuulf seems to come with iptables, I would > recommend removing iptables and installing with nft. My experience was that firewalls such as arno and ufw don't work property under nft. >

Re: [DNG] How to turn off the firewall

Hi Steve, I use this to remove all rules: iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT iptables -t nat -F iptables -t mangle -F iptables -F iptables -X I can't speak for the provenance, but afterwards iptables -n -L, shows ACCEPT for INPUT, OUTPUT and FORWARD,

Re: [DNG] vdev (was: Re: if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names)

Thanks for digging into this, Aitor! On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, aitor wrote: > Images of gnuinos openbox with vdev for testing purposes are available at: > > https://www.gnuinos.org/Beowulf/ I tried out the ISO under qemu. Could boot to rescue mode, but hung up

Re: [DNG] vdev (was: Re: if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names)

Hi Aitor, On Thu, Dec 24, 2020, aitor wrote: > Hi Joel, > > On 24/12/20 7:40, Joel Roth wrote: > > Thanks for looking into this! I, for one, don't need > > to run KDE or Gnome. > > I've been working on vdev during these days, and i'm thinking on a possible > new approach for it. For instance: >

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020, Didier Kryn wrote: >     Shouldn't we consider using Mdev instead of Eudev? You, as a > distinguished contributor to Busybox, should have an opinion on this. And what about Jude Nelson's vdev? I, for one, would donate to support development of these lightweight udev

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

Haines Brown wrote: > Cron automatiically backs up some partitions on my HD by means of a > script. Not sure of the size of thse backupos, but perhaps 300 Mb. > > I have been doing the backups to an external WD USB drive, and they > took around 3 hours. However, I became nervous about the

Re: [DNG] my experience upgrading to NFT

Thomas Groman via Dng wrote: > I upgraded one of my larger and more complex servers from ASCII to > Beowulf. Switching to NFT was very easy after the upgrade. Just create > the rules, (have flush have the beginning), remove the iptables > if-pre-up hook if you made one, copy the example init

[DNG] Can't get graphic output from qemu

Hi list, Since upgrading to ascii, I don't get a graphic window by default as before. Instead, qemu tries (and fails) to make a VNC connection. I can run qemu-system-x86_64 -display curses for text only. The sdl and gtk options to -display which I think should invoke graphic output, instead

Re: [DNG] Devuan Beowulf 3.0.0 released.

On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 06:30:50PM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote: > Dear Friends and Software Freedom Lovers, > >Devuan Developers are delighted to announce the release of Devuan Beowulf >3.0.0 as the project's new stable release. This is the result of many > months >of painstaking work

Re: [DNG] without-systemd.org not working

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 12:43:06AM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: > Why are we (DNG mailing list) going over this same old same old again ? I was probably the firestarter in this case. While it may be tiresome to some, I think it can be valuable to occasionally revisit the reasons for Devuan's

Re: [DNG] without-systemd.org not working

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 12:09:46PM -0700, spiralofhope wrote: > On Sat, 16 May 2020 03:06:37 +1000 > wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > > > On 15 May 2020, at 22:51, Emiliano Marini via Dng > > > wrote: > > > > > >  > > > I don't know who contact but the site http://without-systemd.org > > >

[DNG] long delays in waterfox

Hi list, I've been having good experiences with this firefox fork. Recently it takes seconds for typing to appear in a text input widget. Also takes longer (showing spinner) to render pages. I've tried clearing all the caches, and checked for questionable extensions and plugins. The only change

Re: [DNG] Cannot mount android phone via usb (SOLVED)

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 08:56:08PM -0400, marcus via Dng wrote: > AFAIK you have to enable "Developer Mode" on the phone and then USB > debugging. > > After that when you plug the USB cable in between your computer and the > phone it will pop up a notice on the phone that warns of USB Debugging >

Re: [DNG] Cannot mount android phone via usb

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 12:32:20PM +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote: > Am 22. August 2019 10:32:01 MESZ schrieb Joel Roth via Dng > : > > I previously used jmtpfs to mount an android phone connected > > via usb. Now having issues mounting a recently acquired > >

[DNG] Cannot mount android phone via usb

I previously used jmtpfs to mount an android phone connected via usb. Now having issues mounting a recently acquired nokia 6 with android pie. First issue was missing /lib/udev/mtp-probe in dmesg output. That was resolved by installing libmtp-runtime. Now I get: [ 2501.994664] usb 2-1.5: new

Re: [DNG] Pipewire

Here is an update from mid 2018. https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2018/10/30/pipewire-hackfest/ Here are presentation slides from a 2019 talk. https://fosdem.org/2019/schedule/event/pipewire/attachments/slides/2826/export/events/attachments/pipewire/slides/2826/PipeWire.pdf Mostly over my head,

[DNG] Pipewire

Martin Steigerwald wrote: > I am also reading about Pipewire which may replace Pulseaudio and at > least for some uses Jack for multimedia purposes. Coming from Red Hat as > well, they like will use Systemd to start it, but who knows, I did not > check it so far. Looks like it's still quite a

Re: [DNG] What do you think of Wayland?

On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 01:19:37PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Joel Roth via Dng - 13.07.19, 01:24: > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 11:36:17PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > Anno domini 2019 Fri, 12 Jul 13:53:20 -0400 > > > > > > Steve Litt scrips

Re: [DNG] What do you think of Wayland?

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 11:36:17PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2019 Fri, 12 Jul 13:53:20 -0400 > Steve Litt scripsit: > > Hi all, > > > > What do you think of Wayland? I hear Buster now defaults to Wayland. > Another step in windosification of linux. It seems obvious that

Re: [DNG] Installing sysv-init under Debian Buster

If there can be a convergence on this topic, I think it might be useful addition to the Devuan FAQ, relevant as it concerns init freedom. Q: I'm not ready to move to Devuan yet. Can I setup Debian to use sysvinit instead of systemd? A: For Buster (Debian's current stable distribution) the

[DNG] Installing sysv-init under Debian Buster

Hi List, Noting here a solution from the debian-user mailing list. I'm aware there's a team working for init system flexibility on Debian and send my kudos and beer vouchers to them :-) https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/06/msg00961.html quoted message follow > On Jun 27,

[DNG] backups from ext4 to ntfs - extended attributes and access control lists

Hi, I've been backing up my root ext4 filesystem to ntfs for some time, gettings errors from rsync about failing to copy extended attributes. Will it affect the ability of my devuan OS or any major components to function if I lose extended attributes or ACLs? One common use seems to be the

Re: [DNG] links2 with -g option hangs - SOLVED

Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > Hi list, > > I'm currently running ascii, for years have used the links2 browser with > the -g flag. Yesterday I was surprised to find links2 hangs at the > command line. > > I cannot imagine why the behavior changed, and a subsequent > upgrade

[DNG] links2 with -g option hangs

Hi list, I'm currently running ascii, for years have used the links2 browser with the -g flag. Yesterday I was surprised to find links2 hangs at the command line. I cannot imagine why the behavior changed, and a subsequent upgrade did not solve the issue. Any ideas? -- Joel Roth

Re: [DNG] Way forward

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 09:45:49AM -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > I believe that we should achieve an opinion poll somewhere where get > registered the members that wish that KatolaZ return to the project. Would be a nice show of support, but I think KatolaZ's opinion is the only one

Re: [DNG] The 1st Devuan conference kicks off tomorrow afternoon!

Great to hear about this. I have the good fortune to be in Amsterdam, and the misfortune of having my time fully booked :-/ I look forward to the checking out the videos. On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 09:53:45AM -0400, Linux O'Beardly via Dng wrote: > The conference has been wonderful thus far. The

Re: [DNG] Systemd as tragedy

Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 31/01/19 at 03:38, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:19:44AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >> Might interest someone: > >> > >> https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/ > >> > >> [Front] Poste

Re: [DNG] Systemd as tragedy

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:19:44AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > Might interest someone: > > https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/ > > [Front] Posted Jan 28, 2019 20:05 UTC (Mon) by corbet > > His attempt to cast that story for the > pleasure of his audience resulted in a sympathetic and nuanced

Re: [DNG] (forw) [sf-lug] systemd memory corruption...

Rick Moen wrote: > [insert ironic comment here.] > > - Forwarded message from Bobbie Sellers > - > Subject: [sf-lug] systemd memory corruption... Given the size of the code base and the attraction of the huge number of of systemd installations, I anticipate an unending supply of

Re: [DNG] mailing list software

Jim Jackson wrote: > > Just an aside - what are the alternatives to procmail? > so far I've only found _maildrop_ as an in-line delivery filter. I filter my incoming mail using perl script based on https://metacpan.org/pod/Email::Filter. It is designed to be a drop-in replacement for procmail,

Re: [DNG] Audio woes in Ascii - speakers but no headphones

On Sun, Dec 09, 2018 at 05:48:53PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > I'd suggest after uninstalling Pulse*, run alsamixer, make sure the > headphones slide is unmuted, and crank that slide up to 100%, with the > headphones off your ears to prevent ear damage. Crank master and PCM up > to 100% too.