Re: [DNG] Redhat EEEs CentOS?

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 23:47:39 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting vmlinux (vmli...@charter.net): > > > Embrace, Extend, Extinguish? Shocking but not surprising. Even more > > reason for Devuan to exist. > > > >

Re: [DNG] Firefox and its forks are losing the power of add-ons.

On 3 December 2020 09:12:07 CET, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: >Dear All, > >If you have other solutions which I did not think of, please suggest >them. Thanks for taking the time to reply. > "Firefox" has lost it. Hey ho. For individual browsers: Ublock Origin. UMatrix if you want to be

Re: [DNG] snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...

t bother with VPNs" As you rightly say, all for Gobbles benefit. Shhhhhh - remember those days when they were the good guys? I'm off to play Gopher :-) -- John Crisp pgpUR0jOKzAEm.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng maili

Re: [DNG] snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...

On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 01:09:06 +0100 Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > Certbot has removed support of certbot-auto for Debian-based systems > (cf. Just use dehydrated. No systemd (the Devil) or snapd (son of the aforementioned Devil) dependencies. Runs on pretty well anything.

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 15:47:29 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting John Crisp via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > [snip much-appreciated picture of behind-the-scenes management > folderol at Thunderbird Project:] > Thanks ;-) I have an alter ego that is on some lists as this ego (!)

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 01:15:47 + Mark Rousell wrote: > On 25/10/2020 18:20, Ludovic Bellière wrote: > > Hello Mark, it seems that you are highly concerned with the path > > Thunderbird is taking for the future. Might I suggest to you, and > > everyone following this exchange for that matter,

Re: [DNG] Current state of VPN software ?

On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 13:36:18 -0700 Richard Doyle via Dng wrote: > Good timing! WireGuard is in the kernel and version 1.0.0 has been > released. Devuan doesn't provide a package yet, but it is pretty easy > to build and install from source. I've been running it for months, > replacing OpenVPN

Re: [DNG] Is anybody using Discord for virtual get-togethers in Devuan?

On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 13:24:43 +1100 wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > Anyone have experience on how it compares to Mattermost or Zulip? I believe it has quite a lot of refugees from Slack, Mattermost, Hipchat etc You can sign up for a online trial free for a period I think, or grab a docker

Re: [DNG] Is anybody using Discord for virtual get-togethers in Devuan?

On 20/03/20 13:38, Steve Litt wrote: > Is anybody using Discord in Devuan for virtual get-togethers? > Discord. Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. Horrible spyware. We use Rocket.Chat internally - it'll run on node or in a docker container (I won't mention snaps...) - It's a 'Open Source

Re: [DNG] FF now defaults to DNS-over-HTTPS for US

On Sun, 01 Mar 2020 17:08:28 -0600 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Just great! So how can we keep off this cloudflare thing? > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/25/mozilla_turns_on_dns_over_https_by_default_for_usa/ > > Rick Moen? Anyone? > > I am quite happy running unbound locally thanks

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 13:36:48 +0100 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, Denis wrote in message > <20191122095546.fro7htitriq47xsx@reflex>: > > > > > And today once again I support the vote proposition nr.4 by Ian > > Jackson > > ..a direct link to Ian's vote

Re: [DNG] I wrote IBM

te Devuan. Try and find some professional PR people to help. That's the way the companies work, because it works. That's what you should be doing too. Rgds John Crisp pgpXuHazKSjTz.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing l

Re: [DNG] Way forward

On 11/04/19 09:21, KatolaZ wrote: > In the last ten days all those threee things have materialised, to > different degrees. Hence, I have decided to withdraw from Devuan and > will now take an indefinite leave from the project. > Tragic. I tried hard not to waste too much time reading the

Re: [DNG] Git and git.devuan.org - solved

On 17/08/18 20:35, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 12:22:09 +0200 > John Crisp wrote: > >> git commit -a -m "My new funky feature I dreamt up whilst on the beer >> last night" >> >> This will add all 'untracked' files and commit them. > &g

Re: [DNG] Git and git.devuan.org - solved

On 16/08/18 21:56, Lars Noodén wrote: > git commit -a Better to add a commit message so you know what you were thinking about at the time: git commit -a -m "My new funky feature I dreamt up whilst on the beer last night" This will add all 'untracked' files and commit them. You can do it

Re: [DNG] Mozilla and cloudflare to hijack all your DNS requests - for your own good of course

On 07/08/18 13:51, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > Yet another great choice by mozilla > And so it goes on... https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/95jc1p/new_firefox_experiment_recommends_articles_based/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [DNG] A telegram group

On 27/06/18 17:37, Rick Moen wrote: > > The politics of Telegram LLP's situation w.r.t. various state actors > appears to have an interesting history. The nature of the firm's > business model is IMO likewise interesting in the usual 'Who are the > customers?' fashion. >

[DNG] iptables-persistent

I am booting Devuan ASCII on a VM. I have had some issues with getting an IP address for the VM on boot. I had previously been loading iptables like this: /etc/network/interfaces # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp post-up iptables-restore <

Re: [DNG] Dist-upgrade to ACSII error

On 23/03/18 19:45, Irrwahn wrote: > John Crisp wrote on 23.03.2018 19:04: >> Oooops. > > IIRC this is a known problem during updates that is about to be fixed > before ASCII goes stable. A OK. > > Please try to: > 1. remove the transitional udev package

Re: [DNG] dnsmaq on devuan

On 23/03/18 18:25, John Crisp wrote: > I think that may be where some of my issues lie - I am going to uppgrade > to ACSII and then look again > Ah the upgrade seems to have fixed it, even though the upgrade isn't yet complete (see my other post !) signature.asc Description: OpenPG

[DNG] Dist-upgrade to ACSII error

Oooops. Was upgrading to ACSII and all was going swimmingly until right near the end (usual Friday then !) Seems eudev is in a knot. I think it probably needs removing and reinstalling, but that wants to rip out all the kernels !!! Any suggestions on getting out of this one without a reboot?

Re: [DNG] dnsmaq on devuan

Hi, and thanks for responding ! On 23/03/18 04:39, Irrwahn wrote: > John Crisp wrote on 23.03.2018 02:22: >> I have been having some struggles running dnsmasq on Devuan Jessie. >> I think that may be where some of my issues lie - I am going to uppgrade to ACSII and then look again

[DNG] dnsmaq on devuan

I have been having some struggles running dnsmasq on Devuan Jessie. After a lot of head scratching I started to realise the init file seems a touch out of whack. For starters, no pid file is generated when you start dnsmasq. There I was thinking I was stopping and starting it when in reality, I

[DNG] DNS

Hi, looking for a little advice. Have spun up a small Devuan instance for a openvpn server for a friend. I built a similar system for myself some while back in CentOS 6 and used ndjbdns for tinydns and dnscache. That has worked well and I wanted to replicate that to Devuan but... no

Re: [DNG] Converting srpms to debs

On 26/10/17 20:30, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: >> >> I need to be able to hack some of the source files due to different >> file paths, and then build as debs. >> > According to the man page from alien > > > -g, --generate >    Generate a temporary directory suitable for

Re: [DNG] Converting srpms to debs

On 26 October 2017 19:45:29 CEST, Vincent Bentley wrote: >Have you tried alien? > >apt-cache show alien > > No, but I'm not sure that it is a full on solution. it gets you out of a hole for odd packages as far as I remember? And you don't end up with a source

[DNG] Converting srpms to debs

I have a little idea I have been tossing around in brain for ages but I'm stuck. I'm quite used to building rpms but no experience with debs. I have some stuff I'd like to experiment with on Devuan but need to convert the srpms to deb format. Most of it is not actually compiled binaries

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

On 30/06/17 08:56, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > It's driven by Red Hat to make money out of supporting their > development. > Hammer -> Nail signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Ugly, ugly news

On 26/07/16 03:27, Simon Walter wrote: > > I have a question about what Simon Richter said on his > blog(http://www.simonrichter.eu/blog/2016-03-03-why-sysvinit.html): > > "Here's the thing: most users will be entirely happy with fully > uncustomized systemd. It will suspend your laptop if you

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

On 25/09/15 17:07, Hleb Valoshka wrote: > > If your possible next project will look like netman then please do > nothing. It's a lowest quality project I've ever seen. It looks really > bad. You better read a good book about software architect. > Your comments are a disgrace and do nothing but

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

On 30/08/15 09:26, Steve Litt wrote: > You know why, Nate. You were on Debian-User in the bad old days. Back > in the day, how many times did I get called a conspiracy theorist for > answering that question. > > Three words: > > 1. Follow > 2. the > 3. money. > So true, so true. I personally

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

On 01/09/15 15:16, jfmxl wrote: > > It was RH in league with/fronting for the NSA. I'm not an ardent conspiracy theorist so that's one step too far for me personally, though I do understand your thinking. RH is more than capable of doing this itself for it's own ends. It is doing nothing

Re: [DNG] xargs guide

On 30/07/15 03:34, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, xargs is a gender-changer type program that adapts one program's stdout to the next program's command line arguments. It's extremely handy for shell scripting, but it can be tricky. I've written a short guide for xargs that shows how to get

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

On 15/07/15 15:48, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 08:10:15PM +0630, Ста Деюс wrote: Good time of the day, Franco. I suggest instead of nano/vim -- mcedit -- the internal text editor, coming w/ MC. -- I think that MC is a must for any distro -- for it is comfortable to manage

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

On 15/07/15 17:00, Micky Del Favero wrote: I thing mc is useless: Real men don't eat quique. Each to their - the wonder of choice. I always did wonder why I never liked quiche though. Clearly I'm not a real man. Must remember to tell my wife and sons ;-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [Dng] OT: Linux kernel and the force behind it

On 19/02/15 13:36, hal wrote: Hello all, and great work on the Alpha! I am tagging this off-topic as it doesn't really pertain to Devuan development except in a tangential aspect. I've always thought it a bit odd that just a handful of people, leading certain Open Source projects, could

Re: [Dng] OT: Linux kernel and the force behind it

On 19/02/15 18:38, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:05:03 +0100 John Crisp jcr...@safeandsoundit.co.uk wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/12/01/ttsystemdtt_row_ends_with_debian_getting_forked/ Trade mag journalists. Can't live with them, can't live without them. :-) LOl