Re: [DNG] lightweight graphics toolkits (was Experiencing with GtkBuilder)

> The audience of Linux does not restrict to email, browsing, and office suite, that is end users of shiny applications. There is another kind of audience: people who need to develop their own custom applications; these people don't care of look and feel, but they care with development time.

Re: [DNG] lightweight graphics toolkits (was Experiencing with GtkBuilder)

> Gtk and Qt are meant for applications who target the general public, which > have to be shiny and stylish to be adopted. So an application to connect over wifi isn't an application that targets the  general public? Also, what are some examples of actively maintained GUI toolkits that don't 

Re: [DNG] Experiencing with GtkBuilder

What was wrong with Qt? -Jonathan On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 6:51 PM, Timo Buhrmester wrote: > What's left after Qt and Gtk have been removed? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLTK ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] busybox

Any more details on why exactly they removed this code?  I'd like to know more, and that commit message isn't exactly clear. -Jonathan On Saturday, October 31, 2015 2:10 PM, Svante Signell wrote: On Sat, 2015-10-31 at 17:30 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: >

Re: [DNG] Is Jude Nelson OK?

Hi Steve,Is it possible to thank Jude for his work without packing him into a cannon and firing him at Debian? Besides, if the game is to weaponize software development I suspect you already know who the winner will be.  (Hint: it doesn't start or end with a "d"). Thanks, Jonathan On

Re: [DNG] Devuan Constitu..?

Hi natacha,The first four sections look pretty standard. But if you haven't done a fairly accurate assessment of how the community actually getswork done, it's highly unlikely that what is written about governance will reflect reality.  Insteadit will confuse and frustrate newcomers, who will

Re: [DNG] Devuan Constitu..?

Hi natacha,Have you or anyone else documented the way in which the Devuan communitycurrently works? -Jonathan On Sunday, September 27, 2015 3:56 PM, natacha wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The topic of Devuan Constitution

Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.

started. -Jonathan On Saturday, September 12, 2015 12:43 PM, tilt! <t...@linuxfoo.de> wrote: Hi Jonathan, On 09/12/2015 06:04 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > Hi tilt! > Is this a serious response?  I ask because the other candidates > -- an obscure language and a dead

Re: [DNG] trollproof spec

On 09/03/2015 07:40 AM, Jaromil wrote: dear Jonathan, On Thu, 03 Sep 2015, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I have a spec for "trollproofs" which might help with moderation. Instead of the moderator having a binary choice between "block" or "pass", he/she can

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

On 07/03/2015 03:43 AM, Ста Деюс wrote: В Thu, 2 Jul 2015 11:47:55 +0100 Klaus Ethgen klaus+d...@ethgen.ch пишет: What will be the alternatives? ALSA never worked for me to a usefull state. It has partly translated config files but not in the parser, has always cracking sound and kernel

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

On 07/02/2015 07:17 AM, Jaromil wrote: dear Klaus, On Thu, 02 Jul 2015, Klaus Ethgen wrote: So I am interested in the strategy, devuan will go here. 1st of all, here you can see some preliminary work I've done months ago to save certain packages, sanitize Debian configurations and recuperate

Re: [DNG] GNU/Linux, Libre Linux, binary blobs, choice, freedom. philosophy

On 07/01/2015 04:04 PM, Riccardo Boninsegna wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:32 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: I think anyone who wants to revisit Debian's current free/nonfree repo structure, or its stance wrt licensing, should get their desired changes merged into Debian itself

Re: [DNG] GNU/Linux, Libre Linux, binary blobs, choice, freedom. philosophy

On 06/30/2015 01:38 PM, Matt wrote: Hello, I am a very long time Debian system admin its obvious why I am here at the Devuan junction so I will spare a longer introduction to this mailing list(its my first post). I remember coming across this topic on a previous post but did not get

Re: [Dng] Readiness notification

On 06/13/2015 09:34 AM, Klaus Hartnegg wrote: Am 13.06.2015 um 13:33 schrieb Laurent Bercot: 30 seconds is a lot. What if you could get your desktop ready in 5 seconds or less ? This would mean less than what most people think. Because everything longer than half a second is perceived as

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

On 05/31/2015 05:01 AM, Jude Nelson wrote: Hi Jonathan, Yes I know, I was trolling. But it was a friendly troll. See, I included a hash at the end of my email. Here is my Proof-of-Troll(tm) that matches that hash: echo Sorry but I couldn't resist trolling you here. :) Still

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

On 05/28/2015 11:58 PM, Jude Nelson wrote: Hi Jonathan, Shell-based command access to software like Powerpoint would indeed be great. But I wonder if we can raise the bar a bit and consider an approach that could serve the largest audience. Especially users who themselves

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

On 05/27/2015 02:27 PM, Jude Nelson wrote: Hi Hendrik, On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:12 AM, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com mailto:hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 03:32:00PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote: As a rule of thumb, developers should always use the

Re: [Dng] dev-list

Author: Martijn Dekkers Date: 2015-04-08 00:35 -400 To: dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: [Dng] dev-list  Personally, my view is that there is no cost or significant effort to the project for splitting to -dev and -user. Those who are not interested in either of these lists don't have to subscribe,

Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied?

On 03/26/2015 06:53 PM, Jude Nelson wrote: Hi John, [...] I took a stab at stating what Unix software design philosophy means earlier up the thread, but I'll reproduce it here for your convenience: Do one thing and do it well. It looks to me like you're trying to work backwards for a

Re: [Dng] three important UI features

, that sounds like a plan. But which is the default DE for Devuan-- XFCE or Mate? Also, I'll respond below to Steve (I can't find his message so I just pasted it from the list archive...) On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:11:12 + (UTC) Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@??? wrote: Hi Jonathan, I rearranged

Re: [Dng] three important UI features

On 02/22/2015 05:45 PM, Mark Maxwell wrote: On 22/02/15 20:11, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hello, A few questions about the GUI for Devuan... 1) In the default desktop environment for Devuan, will there be an icon or other discoverable item the user can click to see a list of available wifi

[Dng] three important UI features

Hello,A few questions about the GUI for Devuan... 1) In the default desktop environment for Devuan, will there be an icon or other discoverable item the user can click to see a list of available wifi network connections?2) When the DE's main menu pops up, will the user be able to _immediately_

[Dng] depinit

Hi devuan,I ran across this init system the other day, and it made me think of devuan:http://depinit.sourceforge.net/ It looks like it was used for awhile by Linux-From-Scratch, discussed a bit on Gentoo lists, adored by a small number of fans, and otherwise ignored.  Perusing the docs and the