On 05/10/2020 17:22, Hendrik Boom wrote:
--snip--
>
> No practical experience.
> But is there any chance lxc can play nicely with random USB devices? Or
> the built-in camera and microphone?
Never tried, not got that far.
Importing (is that the correct jargon?) a device into a LXC Container
Hi Tom, Mason, Anybody else...
Beowulf lxc 1:3.1.0+really3.0.3-8 amd64 is broken.
Simple test I picked up from the internet:
~# lxc-usernsexec
Failed to find subuid or subgid allocation
On a host configured for unprivileged containers it should drop you into
unprivileged 'root' mode:
On 05/10/2020 03:23, tom wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 11:04:23 +0100
> g4sra via Dng wrote:
>
>> I am seeking any Devuaners with an interest in lxc to bounce ideas
>> off.
-- snip --
>
> Hello grsra, I run LXC on Devuan, and have done so even through the
> ascii-&
I am seeking any Devuaners with an interest in lxc to bounce ideas off.
I wish to move to multi-fully-containerised development but am repeatedly
stumbling along the way.
Unfortunately the official lxc resources do not help much with the
(systemd-less) issues I am having.
I find bouncing
On 02/10/2020 15:09, Dimitri Minaev via Dng wrote:
-- snip --
> If you could offer an alternative that provides synchronized input to a
> number of SSH sessions, I'd be glad to hear your opinion. I know that
> similar capabilities are found in Terminator and my favorite Konsole, but
> they are not
On 29/09/2020 19:05, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 04:02:35PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote:
>
>> Copy /boot over onto /
>> * rebuild the initramfs in the NEW /boot on / *
>> ^^^ > ^^^ you will need to hack the initramfs-tools scripts or they w
On 29/09/2020 15:27, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:58:42PM +0700, Андрей via Dng wrote:
>
>> Question is, Is it possible to to achieve same goal without LLVM --
>> i.e. to partition system HDD with fdisk, and then still have full
>> encryption?
>
> Yes, or at least,
On 29/09/2020 14:58, Андрей via Dng wrote:
> Question is, Is it possible to to achieve same goal without LLVM --
> i.e. to partition system HDD with fdisk, and then still have full
> encryption?
Luks encrypt the whole HDD or a large partition first then overlay LVM to get
resizeable volumes and
On 28/09/2020 02:29, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 01:35:55AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
>> On 27/9/20 13:59, g4sra via Dng wrote:
>>> I have reservations about where QT5 is going, despite any issue with
>>> pulseaudio, now might be a good time to jump shi
On 27/09/2020 11:25, . via Dng wrote:
--snip--
> so I resigned myself to using LXQT instead
> of KDE.
I have reservations about where QT5 is going, despite any issue with
pulseaudio, now might be a good time to jump ship.
I second 'TDE' (about as KDE as you can get without the nastiness), as has
On 23/08/2020 14:59, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> There are files and directories.
>
> Is there an establiched word in the Linux/Unix xommunity
> for something which might be a file or a directory?
Directories are just files that contain file metadata information in a format
specific to the filesystem
On 22/08/2020 16:03, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 10:47:53AM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote:
>> Your query does not make sense to me.
>>
>> On 21/08/2020 21:23, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>>> Is there a way for process to ask about its own memory usage?
>&g
Your query does not make sense to me.
On 21/08/2020 21:23, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Is there a way for process to ask about its own memory usage?
>
> Something perhaps like the C functions that were available in the dark
> ages on other computer systems that could tell how much memory had
> been
On 09/08/2020 16:55, Haines Brown wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 02:53:13PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote:
>> 3) abort if the mount fails
>> [ $? -eq 0 ] || {echo "Mount Failed!"; exit 1;}
>
> I put this line into my backup script and only got a syntax error.
My
On 08/08/2020 14:53, g4sra via Dng wrote:
> On 07/08/2020 21:01, Haines Brown wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 06:34:04PM +0100, g4sra wrote:
> E.g. /etc/fstab
>/dev/XXX /mnt/backup ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
That should be
/dev/XXX /mnt/backup ntfs-3g defa
On 07/08/2020 21:01, Haines Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 06:34:04PM +0100, g4sra wrote:
>
>> Post your backup script for others to look over.
>
>
> #!/bin/bash
> a="="
> b="Start: "
> c=$(dat
On 15/06/2020 12:59, richard lucassen via Dng wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:48:16 +0100
> g4sra via Dng wrote:
>
>>>> How do you know the mount is failing ?
>>>
>>> It's not mounted after mount command.
>>
>> I have not seen any evidence o
On 15/06/2020 05:33, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote:
> Am 2020-06-14 22:54, schrieb g4sra via Dng:
>> How do you know the mount is failing ?
>
> It's not mounted after mount command.
I have not seen any evidence of that, can you point
-- snip --
> Only mounting the filesystem fails.
How do you know the mount is failing ?
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On 12/06/2020 16:01, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm running Devuan Beowulf on an Odroid C2 mini computer. Since it's internal
> flash disk is limited, I run it with an external usb drive attached.
> When this disk is active in /etc/fstab the boot process hangs forever. I can
> ping it, so
On 12/06/2020 16:01, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote:
> Hi,
Hi, I know *nothing* about Odroid
> I'm running Devuan Beowulf on an Odroid C2 mini computer. Since it's internal
> flash disk is limited, I run it with an external usb drive attached.
> When this disk is active in /etc/fstab the boot process
On 12/06/2020 15:05, David Kuehling via Dng wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I upgraded three machines from Devuan ascii to Devuan beowulf. Now one
> of these machines has non-deterministic problems during startup that
> look like being related to eudev. As that machine was originally
> derived by cloning the
Just suffered knotify crash with Trinity Desktop Environment on a new build.
The fix for me was to oust consolekit in favor of elogind.
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On 21/05/2020 21:24, Rick Moen via Dng wrote:
> Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
>
>> When a company takes action to increase its share of the market and/or
>> its cash flow, we normally do not call that a conspiration. It is
>> legitimate to write about it and discuss the actions it takes.
>
On 17/05/2020 20:26, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2020 Sun, 17 May 13:20:13 +0100
> g4sra via Dng scripsit:
>> I have an old Rpi 2B that will boot its original Raspbian fine but panics
>> 'killing init' on Devuan.
>> Has anybody else experienced this ?
>>
I have an old Rpi 2B that will boot its original Raspbian fine but panics
'killing init' on Devuan.
Has anybody else experienced this ?
The only difference I can discern is that the Devuan repository executables
(init) are compiled as PIE.
Any suggestions to further the diagnosis of this issue
On 29/04/2020 15:28, Peter Duffy wrote:
> (Apologies if I've posted this to the wrong list - shall I repost it to
> the devuan-dev list?)
>
> On Wed, 2020-04-29 at 15:21 +0100, Peter Duffy wrote:
>> I'm currently setting up a virtualbox image based on Devuan ASCII, for
>> eventual upload to azure
On 26/04/2020 21:13, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
> On 4/26/20 6:54 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote:
>> Apt refused to acknowledge that the package even existed.
>
> 1)
> # wget
> http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb
On 26/04/2020 15:09, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Sunday 26 April 2020 at 16:02:00, g4sra via Dng wrote:
>
>> On 26/04/2020 12:31, Mike Tubby wrote:
>>> Try this:
>>>
>>> https://devuan.org/os/keyring/
>>
>> Wrong key 0x94532124541922FB, re
t it from ;)
>
> On 26/04/2020 12:15, g4sra via Dng wrote:
>> Just had an issue migrating to Devuan Beowulf.
>> Where was I *supposed* to obtain the devuan-keyring from to authenticate the
>> repository ?
>> ___
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Just had an issue migrating to Devuan Beowulf.
Where was I *supposed* to obtain the devuan-keyring from to authenticate the
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On 08/04/2020 21:21, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2020 Wed, 8 Apr 21:14:05 +0100
> Simon Hobson scripsit:
>> It's been a while since I last did anything with VPNs on Linux, and I recall
>> there being 3 options, some of which were "less well supported" than others.
>> I'm looking to
On 07/04/2020 14:23, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2020 Tue, 7 Apr 13:07:47 +
> dal scripsit:
>>> From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of g4sra via Dng
>>> Sent: den 7 april 2020 14:31
>>
>>> zoom is not an evil company, un
On 07/04/2020 09:48, Tomasz Kundera via Dng wrote:
> Zoom has dedicated clients for Debian. It works in ascii at least.
Personal experiences..
zoom became more stable after upgrading from ascii to beowulf.
zoom would\will not launch from firefox, no issues launching from terminal and
manually
On 06/04/2020 23:24, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 05:10:48PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote:
>> Only one issue so far, had to manually run 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' after
>> reboot.
>
> You might want to add to bug 419, so the devs are aware that more than
Minimal install from CD-Rom devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_beta_i386_netinstall.iso on
Pentium4 OK.
Only one issue so far, had to manually run 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' after
reboot.
On 15/03/2020 16:22, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> Dear dev1ers,
>
> The Devuan 3 Beowulf Beta release is now ready for
On 30/03/2020 16:18, aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi Svante,
>
> On 19/2/20 15:17, Svante Signell via Dng wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> No replies so far from the devuan-dev list. Maybe with a larger audience I
>> can
>> get some help!
>>
>> Thanks!
> Checking� whether the *inode* number of the primary
On 01/02/2020 10:11, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 31/01/2020 à 13:50, g4sra via Dng a écrit :
>> Do not be fooled into thinking blacklisting stops a module from being
>> loaded, ensure you rebuild the initrd\initramfs without the driver.
>
> Dunno if graphics driver
1) Dont bin your video card, it is unlikely to help in the long run.
On my (cough! yes I know but I did have valid reasons) Fedora system, I have
been battling with Nvidia & Xorg drivers for years, they are certainly no
better than AMD support wise.
My system is currently broken, turns out the
On 11/01/2020 21:15, Florian Zieboll wrote:
> On January 11, 2020 9:18:09 PM GMT+01:00, Edward Bartolo via Dng
> wrote:
>
>> Knowing the vendor ID and the Product ID I should be able to
>> communicate with the oscilloscope. Any ideas how this can be done?
>
>
> Out of couriosity, I just
On 10/01/2020 17:28, Andreas Messer wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 10:04:28PM +0100, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> I still have yet not figured out how to avoid having to use snapd and
>> install the firmware for the oscilloscope, Hantek 6000B (USB). I have
>> successfully
On 29/12/2019 07:47, Rick Moen wrote:
[snip]
Thanks Rick, I appreciate that chain of summaries and the time it has saved now
not having to dig through archives.
Email has probably got to be one of my weakest areas of knowlege, I have learnt
something today.
When drawing my own conclusions I pay
> The freedom to NOT run the software, to be free to avoid vendor lock-in
> through appropriate modularization/encapsulation and minimized dependencies;
> meaning any free software can be replaced with a user’s preferred
> alternatives (freedom 4).
Late to the party as usual
FOSS and the
On 09/12/2019 21:55, Wojtek Sawaściuk via Dng wrote:
> Hello fellow Devuaners !
> Any particular reason why on raspberry PI build, in /proc/cpuinfo there
> are missing information about "model name" , bigger half of "Features"
> line, "Hardware" , "Revision" and "Serial".
> It breaks compliance
On 09/12/2019 21:59, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 10:45:46PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
>> On Monday 09 December 2019 at 22:38:26, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>>
>>> I have an sd card that used to be in an android phone.
>>> My usual tools tell me very little:
>>>
>>> root@midwinter:~#
On 09/11/2019 20:53, tom wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 16:55:34 +0100
> "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote:
>
>> Anno domini 2019 Fri, 8 Nov 16:36:24 +0100
>> Joril via Dng scripsit:
>>> On 08/11/19 16:21, g4sra via Dng wrote:
>>>> FYI: ext4 f
On 08/11/2019 15:36, Joril via Dng wrote:
> On 08/11/19 16:21, g4sra via Dng wrote:
>> FYI: ext4 filesystem journaling (and swap) *should* be disabled by default
>> on SD\SDHC media.
>
> To reduce wear?
There is good documentation 'out there' about how SD\SDHC Flash
FYI: ext4 filesystem journaling (and swap) *should* be disabled by default on
SD\SDHC media.
On 08/11/2019 14:46, Joril via Dng wrote:
> On 27/10/19 03:32, tom wrote:
>
>> The defaults on the linux kernel flags have the options
>> rootflags=noload. This has the effect of disabling ext4
No the intent is not to infest GNU/Linux with bugs.
RedHat's aims have not changed from when they first introduced SystemD
and they are achieving them on target which is why IBM bought in.
It is to become the only Distro regardless of name, in effect
the SystemD Operating System. Canonical had
> Here's a video showing how to create an encrypted partition using the
> manual partitioning step in the installer. You probably did it wrong.
> Don't feel bad - I did it wrong three times before I got it right for
> the video, and I've done this before.
>
>
> I still fail understanding what you mean by "Program 2". It's called,
> maybe, just "apt-get" or "synaptic".
>
OK, um..
take tasksel, clone it into two.
In tasksel one [1], keep everything that is NOT optional (and is stateful).
Partitioning, formatting, kernel, bootloader, package manager
[snip]
>
> You are confusing a simple config file that is read once and for all
> during boot time (the config file on raspberry pis) with the complete
> installation of a new system. They are not even comparable. There is
> no thing like "oh I re-run the installer configuration to change the
>
I often have difficulty with correct terminology despite having a very definite
idea.
The term 'Installer' applies to the first stage actions taken outside of the
package manager such as partitioning, formatting, bootloader and kernel...
which actually make the build host bootable. There 'may' be
On 18/12/2018 03:48, Steve Litt wrote:
> [snip]
> Perhaps reframing it would make a difference. Perhaps renaming the
> second program "Install Software" (install_software), and having it
> boot into install_software, would satisfy all but the most
> windows-phobic that the sum of the two programs
On 18/12/2018 13:19, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:51:53PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:28:43 +0100
>> KatolaZ wrote:
>
>> Also, Hendrik is right: If the bootable installer
>> finds information, it should be saved for the secondary installer to
>> use.
>
On 17/12/2018 00:41, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 16/12/18 at 13:28, KatolaZ wrote:
>> automagic disk encryption,
>
>
> Well, if you cannot install on an encrypted root, encrypting it later
> is a real PITA.
>
> The present impossibility of installing ASCII on an encrypted root is
> a
On 16/12/2018 20:06, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 07:11:25PM +0000, g4sra via Dng wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>>
>> That is my issue, focus has been lost on what an 'Installer' should do.
>> A great deal is performed at install time that falls into the domain of
On 16/12/2018 12:28, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 07:08:10AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>
> You see: in just two emails we have come from a *minimal* base
> installation (a shell with a kernel, a bootloader, and a working
> dpkg/apt) to a fully-functioning network server
On 12/12/2018 15:22, KatolaZ wrote:
[snip]
>
> Please find below the stats of the actual number of downloads of each
> ASCII image according to https://files.devuan.org in the last 14 days
> (without taking into account the other 24 ISO mirrors):
>
> - netinst: 149
> - DVD ISO:
Media partitioning, formatting
Configure mountpoints
Install Bootloader
Install Kernel, Modules & Firmware
Install Shell & package management software
Configure console
Configure network
Boot
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[root@noyb devuan]# mkdir raspi2 raspi3
[root@noyb devuan]# mount -o loop,offset=$((512*8192))
devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armhf_raspi2.img raspi2
[root@noyb devuan]# mount -o loop,offset=$((512*2048))
devuan_ascii_2.0.0_arm64_raspi3.img raspi3
^^^
Differing partitioning, doesn't matter
[root@noyb
From my perspective, this topic has had some very interesting
contributions. Thank you all whom have contributed.
To pick out just one as an example, I had considered NIS\YP to be (or
rather didn't consider because) all but defunct, and not taken it's
simplicity and reliability over other methods
No I am not trying to start a Distro flame war, I am seeking facts not
opinions.
As someone has already pointed out on this mailing list Linux Distros in
general are taking away the freedom to customise (in particular for a
specific User case). I get that maintenance is an issue, but only
because
http://hacks.slashdirt.org/sw/flashybrid/
Someone with non-systemd will have to suck it and see.
That someone will be me if no-one else has done it by Valentines Day.
On 02/12/2018 23:11, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> OnIl 02/12/18 at 22:58, g4sra wrote:
>> I have found flashybrid
Some very useful feedback from you guys already, thanks.
Don't forget standard best practices, backups of system and user's data,
selective updates and security patches must be manually applied
following proper change control procedures.
The server is RAIDed, the workstations have just a single
I have found flashybrid extremely beneficial in the past, on switching
from Debian to Devuan Ascii it appears not to be in the repository, is
it in Beowulf ?. I am not aware of any dependencies it has on
systemd.
On 02/12/2018 10:41, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi everyone.
>
> Recently I have been
One server and 28+ workstations all to be Linux, the rest of the network
is inconsequential (firewalled off).
On 01/12/2018 18:04, Rowland Penny wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 17:49:40 +
> g4sra wrote:
>
>> Which network authentication method would you suggest ?
>>
&
Which network authentication method would you suggest ?
On 01/12/2018 15:43, Rowland Penny wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 15:21:51 +
> g4sra wrote:
>
>> It's not an exhibition it's a room for training using simulation
>> software (permanent classroom), think flight
as the Linux server
can be set up to authenticate Users.
On 01/12/2018 08:16, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 21:25:00 +
> Rowland Penny wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:19:44 -0500
>> Steve Litt wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:55:03 +
&
I would appreciate advice on the following situation
I have several hosts of differing architectures or peripherals in a
training room (several training rooms actually but each are independent
of each other) which are supported by a server running the standard *NIX
network services DHCP, BIND
On 21/11/2018 16:24, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> So, you agree then that:
I agree from your point of view for your single specific use case.
Generally I totally disagree, I manage a diskless cluster that depends
on NFS mounted /usr.
It doesn't matter to the cluster nodes that the package
> Back in the what, 1970's, the Unix guys
> split /usr/sbin, /sbin, /usr/bin, and /bin to accommodate early boot,
> by separating out statically compiled stuff used in the earliest boot.
Close, not restricted to statically linked, but not dependant on
anything not available in /lib (which were
No actually...
Pottering is a Microsoft plant set with the mission to destroy Linux as
we know it!
Big Blue are stepping in to nullify him :)
> ..who of the 3, has had the bigger losses from GNU/Linux qualities,
> and from the impacts from the distro systemd coups d'etats?
>
> ..could this be
Bye Bye Fedora, hello Devuan
On 28/10/2018 21:42, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 20:58:47 +
> Rowland Penny wrote:
>
>> IBM is buying Red Hat.
>>
>> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-28/ibm-is-said-to-near-deal-to-acquire-software-maker-red-hat
>>
>> Rowland
>
> To
Did you rebuild the database *after* changing the config file ?
On 25/10/2018 18:51, Joel Roth wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> updatedb has been around for so long, I'm sure it works
> as advertised, but when I add the paths of my external
> devices, they still get probed.
>
> First I tried adding /mnt
>> As far as I know chkconfig was never a Debian tool. I only know it
>> from RPM distros. Maybe someone tried to include chkconfig in Debian,
>> but gave up later. Or it never really worked.
I frequently used (and liked) chkconfig because it did work well on Red
Hat Distros. I can see that
On 22/10/2018 21:59, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:08:57 +
> Daniel Abrecht wrote:
>
>> On 22/10/2018 19.38, Steve Litt wrote:
>>> Is logger just another sister of syslog-ng and rsyslog?
>>
Snip [Edited for brevity]
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> You were so thorough giving facts that I
On 21/10/2018 16:19, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The runit (or daemontools or s6) service directory is the directory
> which is scanned for symlinks of runit directories. The Debian runit
> package sets it to /etc/service, the Void package sets it
> to /var/service, and both djb and runit
> selling point was th[at] systemd is faster,
SystemD has certainly been touted that way, I personally have not found
it so in practice across a variety of hardware.
There is a catch, one that *any* init system needs to take into
consideration. Whilst a modern CPU can cope with multi-tasking
> ..the systemd approach was (and still is?) convert (or "generate")
> sysvinit scripts into systemd unit files.
Still is. But that is only half the issue. As mentioned already, any
attempt to run a sysv script is intercepted by SystemD. The
corresponding unit file ('generated' or 'packaged')
Been reading the mail...
Having read some of the answers given by Lennart for the reasons he has
or has not implemented something I personally think the guy is a prat
(or at least socially inept). Having said that there are plenty that
regard me the same way. I have no opinion on the 'quality' of
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