Re: [DNG] WAY OFFTOPIC: Idiot electricians: was: Is it dead yet?

On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 15:20:22 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > It's the kind of grudge you can keep for 42 years. > ... > > Pay up, guys, wherever you are. Oh god, now I have to add to the story time. That same guy who was flipping a breaker was doing it so fast that sometimes my system wouldn't even

Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet? -- SOLVED

On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 12:15:13 -0400 Hendrik Boom via Dng wrote: > Machine works fine now, running devuan ascii. That's good news. I guess memory can "wear out", but hopefully the memory wasn't damaged by some fault in the motherboard or power. I hope your new memory is safe.

Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet?

On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 09:49:20 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Took a while to get them to play nice. Seems that only one > configuration of sticks in the 4 slots would work. Hardware . . . > grr . . . When there's a problem, the hardware guys blame software, and the software guys blame

Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet?

On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 23:15:15 -0400 Hendrik Boom via Dng wrote: > I'll have to replace the RAM, I guess.  Or find out what memory bus > is failing. I know this sounds odd, but I had memory errors galore which were solved by a new power supply. Apparently a jackass flipping breakers off and on

Re: [DNG] FHS deficiencies: Was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 19:22:57 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > For a *Personal Computer*, $HOME is a zoo, and I either have to live > with it, reorganize it only to get broken again with the next major > upgrade, or violate FHS. Right from the beginning, I've always thought of $HOME as the place where

Re: [DNG] Er, Not that way ? (was: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!)

On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:52:05 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Might I suggest $HOME/bin :-) For me I've only had a few offline custom scripts in: $HOME/live/path If I thought about it further, I'd probably make it something more obvious, like: $HOME/live/scripts/sh/in-path Since I

Re: [DNG] [OT] Twitch and 2FA (TOTP)

On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 11:31:16 +0200 Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > Something very important is implied there, and probably only a few > will notice it: there is a requirement for a smartphone. I agree. I'm also getting text messages for 2FA for a lot of things, for some more security.. but I

[DNG] [OT] Twitch and 2FA (TOTP)

Sortof-related to the Twitch security concerns.. I keep separate passwords for every website, and looked into two-factor authentication, with a one time code, using KeePassXC [1]. - Twitch only supplies a QR code - KeePassXC cannot use a QR code - I happen to have a phone and can use SecScanQR

[DNG] [OT] Twitch source code leak

To signal boost, because "lol proprietary services": https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/the-entirety-of-twitch-has-reportedly-been-leaked/ https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/6/22712250/twitch-hack-leak-data-streamer-revenue-steam-competitor

Re: [DNG] Living Dangerously (was: Review of documentation needed)

On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 17:16:21 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > A rookie sysadmin mistake is to take backups but never ever do a test > restore to ensure they are OK. Can confirm. I had a backup persistency file which felt "old" when I tried using it. Backups seemed to be going impressively fast;

Re: [DNG] License for the DNG created software guide

On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:26:52 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > I'm a little afraid that people with insufficient knowledge, or with > political agendas, will water it down with bullshit. Is this the problem, and only problem, you want to solve? Is this a problem that _needs_ to be solved? > Only

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:16:58 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > He was of the opinion that Wayland - - - whatever its exact function, > was really not worth running.  I've been interested in it because of promises of eliminating screen tearing when watching videos. I don't know if that's been

Re: [DNG] malfunctioning graphical application

On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 13:58:34 +0200 Ludovic Bellière via Dng wrote: > As it stand, aisleriot is part of the gnome suite and thus depends on > GTK3. Maybe something in the framework changed that does not support > your system anymore. Oh my god if this turns out to be the case I will laugh so

Re: [DNG] Are .udeb files also to be installed after a source build?

On Sun, 8 Aug 2021 11:06:01 +0200 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > That was quite common on Sharp Zaurus :) Gasp! I still have mine. :) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Starting outline for the DNG Safe Programmer Certificate

On Sat, 7 Aug 2021 17:02:17 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Wikis are often backed by revision management to make it asy for > administrators to bck out of spam. > To make sure they are backed up, use a distributed revivion management > system and make sure there are multiple repositories. The

Re: [DNG] Starting outline for the DNG Safe Programmer Certificate

On Sat, 07 Aug 2021 16:21:47 +0930 dva...@internode.on.net wrote: > On 30.07.21 11:28, spiralofhope wrote:> > > I also mean that if there are any complex ideas or words, those can > > be explained in separate specific-documentation in the same way that > > code does it

[DNG] Documentation, pseudocode, code (was: Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed)

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 23:31:39 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 20:10:24 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message > > > I ofter predocument -- explain what my code is intended to do > > before I write it. > > ...and what a lot of bug hunters would wanna have handy to answer the > "What

Re: [DNG] Marker

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 18:10:34 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > This email was to mark the point I got to in my outline of everything > that's been said in the DNG software authoring standards, because my > email client (claws-mail) doesn't have a bookmarking capability, as > far as I know. I also use

Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 20:04:17 +0100 Rowland Penny via Dng wrote: > On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 13:55 -0500, o1bigtenor wrote: > ... at least we don't describe things as male or > female as some of the European languages do. We're starting to. There's this push that "man" doesn't mean "human".

Re: [DNG] Starting outline for the DNG Safe Programmer Certificate

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 13:40:30 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > g4sra via Dng said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 21:16:31 + > > > [...] > > O! > > Makes perfect sense now. Thanks g4sra and spiralofhope. That's a good > idea, although one screenfull sounds a

Re: [DNG] Starting outline for the DNG Safe Programmer Certificate

Once this gets complex enough it'll need to be self-hosting in a sense; check the rules against the rules -- de-duplicate, simplify, add documentation, etc. :) Internal consistency? I don't know the correct term offhand. ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:33:10 +0200 al3xu5 wrote: > 11) Document and document and document all the code (vars, functions, > errors etc. ... all) It was mentioned earlier; variables and functions wouldn't need much (if any) documentation if they were long and descriptive. I like using short

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 13:10:24 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > spiralofh...@spiralofhope.com said on Fri, 9 Jul 2021 03:47:14 -0700 > > [...] > >> If local time suddenly lurches forward or backward a great > >> distance, already running processes may get very distressed or > >> fall over, log files

Re: [DNG] ..tenacity replaces Audacity like Devuan replaces Debian? Tenacity ditches spyware.

On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 03:34:46 -0700 wrote: > Audacity is now restricted from minors, violating GPL: > https://technewsinc.com/after-its-acquisition-audacity-takes-care-of-its-users-data/ Maybe I misunderstand; I found some discussion on this topic: https://github.com/audacity/audacity/issues/1249

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 13:15:13 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > If local time suddenly lurches forward or backward a great distance, > already running processes may get very distressed or fall over, log > files will become very peculiar, etc. I saw a YouTube video that demonstrated how 3D printing

Re: [DNG] ..tenacity replaces Audacity like Devuan replaces Debian? Tenacity ditches spyware.

On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 07:09:18 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..tenacity replaces Audacity like Devuan replaces Debian? Tenacity > ditches spyware: FLOSS Audacity Fork without any Telemetry or > Reporting: https://github.com/tenacityteam/tenacity I'm pleased with Audacity's implementation. These

Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader

On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? Devuan is Debian without systemd. Check with the Debian people. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Strange browser home

On Sun, 23 May 2021 09:01:51 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Interesting. Makes me wonder if, when firefox is started with a > file:/// style URL it bothers to pass the content of that file to the > remote firefox... Probably not A commandline with a file:// reference will just start or switch

Re: [DNG] End of free open source software?

On Fri, 14 May 2021 14:27:15 +0200 "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" wrote: > On 09.05.21 08:33, tito via Dng wrote: > > > So the first question that arises is: > > how could open source and free software projects ensure > > protection from damage up to data loss if actually even proprietary >

Re: [DNG] network measurement

On Sat, 8 May 2021 09:40:51 +0300 Dimitris via Dng wrote: > do you ping anything while on these delays? if you're losing many > packages, then i'd call ISP first to check dsl line.. I once had significant packet loss and my ISPs solution was to actually _lower_ my speeds to reduce it. I have

[DNG] Editing old git commit messages (was: Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.8)

On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 13:30:29 +0200 tito via Dng wrote: > https://git.devuan.org/farmatito/migration > ... > p.s.: is there a way to edit committed commit messages? I have not tested this:

Re: [DNG] Screen flickering

On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 17:32:30 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > As for a repair, I have no idea what it's like trying to get inside > Dell laptops. On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 16:37:54 +0200 Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > ... Dell Latitude 7400 laptop I have ... I'd gamble that it's easy to service it.

Re: [DNG] Default logins for ARM images?

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 20:33:48 -0700 Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 12:30:45PM +0200, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > > I'm looking at an ARM image for Beowulf, but cannot find where the > > default password is annotated. It's not on either of these pages: > > > >

Re: [DNG] Netiquette

On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 13:58:57 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Personally, I deliberately break the thread by snipping In-Reply-To > (or use mutt's new-message command, which amounts to the same thing) > if the new discussion will be semantically quite different from the > old one. This makes a lot of

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 01:34:40 +1100 Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > For bare-metal hardware I believe there is a first possible "race" > between different modules (that handle different card types), and a > second possible "race" for multiple same-type cards, which are handled > by the one and

Re: [DNG] I'm going to need to make a block diagram of bridge/tap/qemu networking

On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:38:36 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > There's only one solution: I need > to learn enough about bridge devices, tap devices, and VM guest > networking that I can draw a block diagram of the entire networking > situation, so I can intelligently probe any interaction point for >

Re: [DNG] Devuan Beowulf 3.1.0 point release

On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 20:36:58 -0500 fsmithred via Dng wrote: > Devuan Beowulf 3.1.0 point release Confirmed that devuan_beowulf_3.1.0_amd64_desktop-live.iso works with ventoy-1.0.35 (installed via Windows 10). I highly recommend checking out Ventoy. Persistence works, based on its instructions

Re: [DNG] librewolf

On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 07:28:27 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > But I suspect that, lik firefox, it will make a brave attempt to use > up ALL of my RAM. It claims to be "performance aware", which I expect means yes it will make that trade-off. ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] Another document listing systemd deficiencies

On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 13:32:22 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > This is a fun document: > > https://suckless.org/sucks/systemd/ > ... machinectl ... a program which contains sudo, su and kill (and > does some functions which historically ssh/telnet did) ... systemd documentation is creepypasta.

[DNG] obsoleting a login manager (was: What I learned at Distrowatch)

ust have the regular shell at certain TTYs launch X upon login. A snippet of it: \xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- /usr/bin/X :$(( tty_to_use - 1 )) \ vt"$tty_to_use" -auth "$( \tempfile --prefix='serverauth.' )" logout There's more code that makes the above work.

Re: [DNG] godaddy (was Your system is not supported by certbot-auto anymore.)

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 19:37:39 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Know any domain registrars that don't mess with the user? I've used register4less.com for some time, and they're a bunch of geeks. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

[DNG] godaddy (was Your system is not supported by certbot-auto anymore.)

On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 01:00:44 +1100 wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > A good move to switch from godaddy. Doesn’t really matter where you > switch to, but godaddy appear to be a seriously unethical company. > > https://www.webpronews.com/godaddy-elephant-killing-nodaddy-venovix/ > >

Re: [DNG] Jessie to Ascii upgrade

On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 07:55:17 -0800 Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > I do run a little file manager -- xfe. What a wonderful program; I'll add it to my toolkit as an alternative to spacefm. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 19:22:34 -0700 Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: > Sorry, spiralofhope.  I didn't6 mean to send this to you, but to the > list. I'll re-send this to the list then. :) On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 19:15:42 -0700 Marc Shapiro wrote: > I think they have already obfuscated thing

Re: [DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted

s://github.com/github/dmca So.. https://github.com/github/dmca/tree/416da574ec0df3388f652e44f7fe71b1e3a4701f On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 16:36:08 -0700 spiralofhope wrote: > This made me laugh; using the tool to get the tool's source: > > > youtube-dl -o - https://youtu.be/hyqLv2_zBdA |

Re: [DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted

This made me laugh; using the tool to get the tool's source: youtube-dl -o - https://youtu.be/hyqLv2_zBdA | ffmpeg -i - \ -vf scale=120:-1,eq=contrast=10 -sws_flags neighbor -pix_fmt \ monob -f rawvideo yt_dl.tar.gz ___ Dng mailing list

[DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted

TL;DR: YouTube-dl DMCA The RIAA successfully applied a DMCA takedown to GitHub (Microsoft) for an archivism program which downloads YouTube video/audio (although it does target other services). https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/

Re: [DNG] Xorg stopped working after upgrade to Beowulf

rate experimentation throughout multiple Linuxes: https://github.com/spiralofhope/shell-random/commits/master/live/zsh/dot_zsh/4-login.sh ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] POSIX shell scripting (was: Danger: Debian POSIX hostility)

/ The pure sh bible has been a big help: https://github.com/dylanaraps/pure-sh-bible Here are some examples of replacing "standard" software: https://github.com/spiralofhope/shell-random/blob/master/live/sh/scripts/examples/replace-head.sh https://github.com/spiralofhope/shell-random/blob/mast

Re: [DNG] RFC: wiki software

On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 09:05:39 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Of course there's also mediawiki, which is the basis for the > WIkipedia. Unless something has changed, ACLs are explicitly absent from MediaWiki. There have always been efforts by third parties to make it more functional, but I'm of the

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

On Fri, 04 Sep 2020 20:22:56 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2020-09-04 19:24, spiralofhope wrote: > > On Fri, 04 Sep 2020 15:03:55 -0500 > > goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > >> ...2 new 500 GB WD Black drives... > > Not sure if they still have the

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

On Fri, 04 Sep 2020 15:03:55 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > ...2 new 500 GB WD Black drives... You have good taste. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] terminology

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 09:59:53 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Is there an establiched word in the Linux/Unix xommunity > for something which might be a file or a directory? Perhaps something like inode? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] [OT] Signature filtering (was: Devuan 3.0 Orca Problem)

On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 19:03:13 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > flush-left two hyhens plus a single space character, and > then immediate a hard return Oh, I didn't know about the single space. Thanks for that, and the rest. Getting lore and detail is a challenge for me for the older stuff, because

[DNG] [OT] Signature filtering (was: Devuan 3.0 Orca Problem)

Incoming musing.. I haven't investigated the solution for email, but I would assume that many email clients can filter out signatures. However, when I went looking through my email client (Claws Mail [1]) I couldn't find anything obvious! Maybe I didn't look hard enough. - Perhaps I could

Re: [DNG] Deleted qemu image

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:35:20 +0100 fraser kendall wrote: > Best option: 1) can I retrieve the deleted qcow image from a running > instance of that image? The other suggestions are on the right track. I myself have "un-deleted" a file which was held open because it was in use by a running

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie End of Life (EOL) archiving

On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:52:12 +0200 richard lucassen via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 05:58:11 -0300 > pekman wrote: > > > Slitaz is very good Linux distribution for old computers. See > > slitaz.org > > The latest "news" is from 20 May 2015: > > http://slitaz.org/en/news/ In its

[DNG] Non-systemd Linux for older hardware (was: Devuan Jessie End of Life (EOL) archiving)

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 16:53:19 +0200 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > A word of condolence to anybody fixed on old hardware. If you cannot > upgrade, there is still the BSD-family which offer support down to > 80486. And they, too, are systemd-free :) It's been a while, but I wonder if Slackware

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 06:31:40 +0200 "J. Fahrner" wrote: It looks to me like your drive is in good health and supports (and uses) all the good health features. As the other poster suggested, using another drive to troubleshoot may still be useful, but your drive appears fundamentally good. --

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 17:01:14 +0200 "J. Fahrner via Dng" wrote: > When this disk is active in /etc/fstab the boot process hangs > forever. I wonder if there's anything S.M.A.R.T. information can tell you. There is a spinup time test, and I wonder if perhaps there is SMART logging within the

Re: [DNG] Beowulf upgrade from Ubuntu

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 08:29:01 -0700 kdibble wrote: I'm glad you got things sorted out. Several of the things you mentioned would have frustrated me. > 5) Started adding a couple packages and apt asked for cdrom. I assumed > it wanted usb stick, mounted it and nope, it wants a cdrom. Go in and

[DNG] Successful beowulf install in VirtualBox

I succesfully installed Devuan: devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64 guest on VirtualBox 6.0.20-137117 on Windows 10 host This replaces Debian: Debian 10.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1 guest on VirtualBox 6.0.22-137980 on Windows 10 host -- I have no complaints with my installation, including nuances

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

On Sun, 24 May 2020 16:20:05 +0200 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > TDE with it's qt3 fork :) Going down that rabbit hole, I see that Exe GNU/Linux uses it by default and is also using Devuan. This seems to be a trivial way for me to check out TDE at its finest. http://exegnulinux.net/

[DNG] panels (was Beowulf, and Apparmor's effect on bind9)

On Sat, 23 May 2020 19:54:55 +0100 (BST) Jim Jackson wrote: > Any recommendations for a better panel? lxpanel is an old favorite, and tint2 is quite impressive. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] without-systemd.org not working

On Mon, 18 May 2020 21:39:11 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > I eschew Occam's Razor in favor of Litt's Razor, which can be > paraphrased "Follow the money." See also the maxim of Cassius: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui_bono "to whom is it a benefit?"

Re: [DNG] tobacco patch? (OT)

On Sat, 16 May 2020 18:13:58 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2020-05-16 16:51, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > What do you mean by "tobacco patch"? > > It's an analogy with a medical device used to help smokers with > quitting. Aah. I would say "nicotine patch".

Re: [DNG] without-systemd.org not working

On Sat, 16 May 2020 03:06:37 +1000 wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > On 15 May 2020, at 22:51, Emiliano Marini via Dng > > wrote: > > > >  > > I don't know who contact but the site http://without-systemd.org > > isn't working (it throws database error): > > It looks to have been resurrected

Re: [DNG] Waterfox issues under Devuan ASCII

On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 19:04:45 + aitor_czr wrote: > http://www.gnuinos.org/screenshots/Screenshot_2020-04-11_18-14-41.png > At least, i only need a few features like management for my bookmarks > and ability to have several websites opened at the same time in > different tabs. Related:

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:56:07 +1000 terryc wrote: > Which brand and model(s) of laptop have people successfully installed > devuan onto? I have a $300 (CAD) Dell Inspiron 11 3180. According to my mid 2018 notes I tried Devuan_ascii_2.0.0_i386_desktop-live.iso and had issues with graphics being

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 12:07:56 +0200 Raul Claro wrote: >     is there a way of holding a video- or an audioconference with > Firefox (or Vivaldi) on Devuan?  The ones I have come in contact > with. such als /https://global.gotomeeting.com/, /work only with > Windows or Mac and Chrome. > >

[DNG] PGP (was: Beowulf Beta is here!)

On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 13:14:41 -0400 Dan Purgert wrote: > Your trust in my key (and therefore, my signature) should not be > founded on _where_ you got it from, but your own personal web of > trust made up of (hopefully!) people you know and trust to do their > due diligence for confirming I am

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 12:03:53 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > LXDE > is one of many projects who looked at the dismaying near-total rewrite > required for migrating to GTK3 (and GTK's increasing GNOME-centric > nature) and made the agonising decision to bail and migrated sideways > to Qt. If memory

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 13:20:24 -0700 tom wrote: > My advice is to stop buying X86 in the future and invest in other > arches. I love that virtualization has come so far that I don't have to care what I run my stuff on. ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

ec '\mv $f /l/live/__ ; \gpicview /l/live/__/$f' \\ " Oh, and since I'm on that and we have some Openbox people.. guess what this does: \sh -c "\ \geany \\ $( \realpath ~/.themes/minimal-spiralofhope/openbox-3/themerc ) \\ $( \realpath ~/.config/openbox/rc.xm

Re: [DNG] What can even possibly go wrong?

On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 11:25:01 +0100 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > To use the own home directory on different laptops? This is a first-world problem if I've ever heard one, and a sad waste of manpower when there are other programming problems. ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] FF now defaults to DNS-over-HTTPS for US

On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 11:49:57 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > > 'grey' rather than 'grey': because it's much greyer that way. > 'gray' > > See, even when I set out to adopt quaint USAnaian spelling, I > sometimes can't quite manage it. This helps me remember: E for English "grEy" A

Re: [DNG] FF now defaults to DNS-over-HTTPS for US

On Sun, 01 Mar 2020 17:08:28 -0600 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/25/mozilla_turns_on_dns_over_https_by_default_for_usa/ } Another relevant question is whether further centralisation of the } internet is, inherently, a bad thing. ® Whoa boy.

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 23:07:33 +0100 aitor wrote: > On 1/3/20 11:56, spiralofhope wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 04:12:07 -0500 > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > >> OpenBox, which I consider the best of the bunch if you don't need a > >> panel > > My vote is f

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 04:12:07 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > OpenBox, which I consider the best of the bunch if you don't need a > panel My vote is for fbpanel or lxpanel. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 22:44:10 +0100 Harald Arnesen via Dng wrote: > Do you drink beer or wine, Pepsi or Coke? Same thing. emacs or vi, it's all text. ;) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

like. I don't think a desktop environment would have any impact on your choice of applications. I've also run without pulseaudio and most of your applications with no difficulty. (Though I'm not familiar with icc color management at all, does that matter to the desktop environment?) [1] https:

Re: [DNG] Terrible reporting / puff piece about systemd

On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 02:11:33 +1100 Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > https://fossforce.com/2020/02/the-verdict-on-systemd-is-in/ > Critics claimed systemd’s centralized controls violate the Unix > philosophy of using one small program for a single, limited purpose. Claimed? Isn't this an

Re: [DNG] Embrace extend and extinguish (was: Devuan /etc/os-relase - no VERSION info?)

On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 16:17:08 +0100 viverna wrote: > I think that Poettering will shift it in the future to binary file > and an command like systemd-read-binary-os-release to read it... I just died a little inside.. ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] systemd breaking linuxcnc ...

On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:46:56 + Rainer Weikusat via Dng wrote: > some people are passionately convinced that non-local time is a > misfeature *glares at satellites* ;) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists

On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 15:30:28 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Because GMail > enforces at the time of receipt the declared DMARC policies of what > is asserted to be the source domain of an arriving mail, and because > yahoo.com has an r=reject DMARC policy and its declared roster of > authorised origins

Re: [DNG] Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd'

On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 13:46:12 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > What happens if Debian stops supporting sysvinit, or worse, installs > Halloween Code to greatly complicate systemd replacement? I wasn't familiar with the term "Halloween Code". Is this a reference to Microsoft's internal strategy

[DNG] [OT] Louis Rossmann (was Catching up)

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 04:00:48 +1100 Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > Some here might be aware of Louis Rossmann I am in particular. He was a pure Linux user for the longest time, but abandoned it to great success and with no regrets. I engaged him on this topic a little after his transition

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists (was: Can we fix this DMARC thing?)

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:47:49 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Ergo, often one of the places mailing > lists first notice delivery problems owing to aggressive DMARC > policies is among subscribers receiving their subscription mail on > GMail, who suddenly aren't getting some mailing list traffic, report

Re: [DNG] :-) Don't get into a pissing contest with Rick Moen

On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 15:27:00 +1100 Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > If you make a valid point and it > gets argued, then argue until it stops or your argument (or theirs) is > falling on death ears ... or you just give up, then move on. > Although I don't expect to win pissing contests

Re: [DNG] Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 03:01:22 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Predatory Interdependency This language reminds me of the old Microsoft "Embrace, extend, and extinguish"[1] topic. -- [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish ___

Re: [DNG] INJ - Init Freedom inJector (was: cannot exist without the help of Debian)

On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 18:31:25 +0100 viverna wrote: > I propose this: a script called INJ - Init Freedom inJector > > I wrote this summer in this list about a possibility of inject init > run scripts (for example runit) in all Devuan packages automatically. > > I'm writing a simple script that

Re: [DNG] EvilGnome spyware

On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 21:28:25 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > https://thehackernews.com/2019/07/linux-gnome-spyware.html Since the keylogging functionality was unimplemented, I was reminded of a point of trivia. With the microphone or in combination with the screen grabs, a sort of tempest

Re: [DNG] Systemd depends on random numbers in order to work properly

On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 07:07:20 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > I loosely attach my mouse to my stationary bike in such a way that the > mouse's LED shines on the stationary bike's belt, building up entropy. > Within 10 seconds boot begins! I would prefer a steam car-style hand crank. I smell a

Re: [DNG] removed encrypted file system? was date of publication of beowulf

On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 14:41:18 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Due to #765854 ecryptfs-utils has been removed from > Buster. http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/Bug-928956-Document-removal-of-ecryptfs-utils-from-Buster-td4512502.html https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765854 systemd-user

Re: [DNG] What do you think of Wayland?

On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 13:53:20 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > What do you think of Wayland? I hear Buster now defaults to Wayland. I had been waiting for it to come out into mainstream use for some time, because of its supposed solutions to video playback screen tearing issues. I've always assumed

Re: [DNG] Firefox-esr freezes ASCII

On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 06:24:56 -0400 fsmithred via Dng wrote: > What I do when it starts to slow down is ctrl-alt-F2, log in and > start killing programs. Thunderbird is usually on that kill list, > because it takes a lot of ram, too. If I wait too long to do that, it > freezes. At some point, even

Re: [DNG] backups from ext4 to ntfs - extended attributes and access control lists

On 2019-06-14 10:28, Mark Rousell wrote: Although your notes are all about command line, you might like to add a link for this handy shell extension to your notes: Link Shell Extension Done, thanks.

Re: [DNG] backups from ext4 to ntfs - extended attributes and access control lists

On 2019-05-28 15:53, Rick Moen wrote: [1] Last I heard, Microsoft OSes had nothing quite like a symlink, which was one reason why Cygwin was a bit of a kludge. (They may have fixed that; I wouldn't know ... Yes, they are possible. Notes: https://blog.spiralofhope.com/?p=13539 Tested in

Re: [DNG] suspicious firefox behaviour

On 2019-01-30 18:00, Hendrik Boom wrote: So I ask: Why should firefox need to access the net to look at the hard drive in the laptop. Don't several web browsers have a "feature" to check that every visited URL is "safe"? Maybe there's a bug where yours attempts to report your visited URL

Re: [DNG] A concrete proposal [was: Re: Drive-by critique]

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 12:37:36 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > If anybody is wondering "how can I help Devuan" and is ready to do > something concrete in that direction, putting together such a simple > webpage would be a valuable contribution. I don't know how much I believe this myself, but.. Anyone

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