[DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-24 Thread Edward Bartolo via Dng
As a Devuan user I suggest the Devuan Administrative Team to consider the thinking of a detailed contingency plan in case of a crises that should include how to deal with internal conflicts and what to do when important servers fail. I would also suggest setting up emergency supplimentary servers

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-24 Thread info at smallinnovations dot nl
On 24-04-19 09:20, Jaromil wrote: > On Tue, 23 Apr 2019, KatolaZ wrote: > >> Counting individual contributions to a voluntary project is totally >> pointless: since there is no price tag on "one hour of voluntary >> work", then a voluntary contribution of one hour is as important and >> as

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-24 Thread Jaromil
On Tue, 23 Apr 2019, KatolaZ wrote: > Counting individual contributions to a voluntary project is totally > pointless: since there is no price tag on "one hour of voluntary > work", then a voluntary contribution of one hour is as important and > as valuable as 1000 hours of voluntary

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 12:05:55 +0200, KatolaZ wrote in message <20190423100555.a5qywvfc57x4h...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > "A leader is best > When people barely know he exists > Of a good leader, who talks little, > When his work is done, his aim fulfilled, > They will say, 'We did this ourselves.'

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-23 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 11:38:00AM +0200, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > On Tue, 2019-04-23 at 09:10 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Apr 2019, Rick Moen wrote: > > > > > Dan, it is _not_ time for you to leave. Please stay. > > > > Well Rick, at this point considering all the dust Dan is

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-23 Thread Svante Signell via Dng
On Tue, 2019-04-23 at 09:10 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > On Mon, 22 Apr 2019, Rick Moen wrote: > > > Dan, it is _not_ time for you to leave. Please stay. > > Well Rick, at this point considering all the dust Dan is kicking up > in > public, apparently now intentionally, I'd say he better leave. All

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-23 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Jaromil (jaro...@dyne.org): > On Mon, 22 Apr 2019, Rick Moen wrote: > > > Dan, it is _not_ time for you to leave. Please stay. > > Well Rick, at this point considering all the dust Dan is kicking up in > public, apparently now intentionally, I'd say he better leave. All his > past

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-23 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 23 Apr 12:32:29 +0900 mett scripsit: > On 2019年4月23日 11:24:39 JST, Rick Moen wrote: > >Dan, it is _not_ time for you to leave. Please stay. > > > >I've seen only the public portions of these text-format interactions, > >but think I'm seen enough data to assess the basic

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-23 Thread Jaromil
On Mon, 22 Apr 2019, Rick Moen wrote: > Dan, it is _not_ time for you to leave. Please stay. Well Rick, at this point considering all the dust Dan is kicking up in public, apparently now intentionally, I'd say he better leave. All his past three actions in Devuan damaged the project. I doubt

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-22 Thread mett
On 2019年4月23日 11:24:39 JST, Rick Moen wrote: >Dan, it is _not_ time for you to leave. Please stay. > >I've seen only the public portions of these text-format interactions, >but think I'm seen enough data to assess the basic situation. Although >I'm a friendly outsider to Devuan Project

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-22 Thread etech3
On 04/22/2019 10:24 PM, Rick Moen wrote: Dan, it is _not_ time for you to leave. Please stay. I've seen only the public portions of these text-format interactions, but think I'm seen enough data to assess the basic situation. Although I'm a friendly outsider to Devuan Project governance, I've

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-22 Thread Rick Moen
Dan, it is _not_ time for you to leave. Please stay. I've seen only the public portions of these text-format interactions, but think I'm seen enough data to assess the basic situation. Although I'm a friendly outsider to Devuan Project governance, I've seen many similar destructive spirals in