On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 17:29:43 +0200
Joerg Reisenweber reisenwe...@web.de wrote:
On Sun 26 July 2015 23:18:58 Steve Litt wrote:
You can roll your own automount with one day's work using
inotify-wait, dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works
without X or window manager. Heck, I'll do
On Sun 26 July 2015 23:18:58 Steve Litt wrote:
You can roll your own automount with one day's work using inotify-wait,
dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works without X or window
manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if more than 20 people want it.
+1
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On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 11:18:58PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
You can roll your own automount with one day's work using inotify-wait,
dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works without X or window
manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if more than 20 people want it.
Or you can do it with mount,
I know it's decided that XFCE will be the default, which is fine, and as a
simply end user I'll be happy with a functional system. I do have a
question though. I find JWM to be quite flexible, although I've still much
to try and learn about configuring it. It seems to do about everything a
person
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:00:02AM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
On 24/07/2015 23:48, James Powell wrote:
CDE is a classic UNIX desktop, but it has long been since viable for
modern usages.
Xfce, in truth, was a modern replacement for it using Xforms since Motif
was, at the time, under a
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:24:45 +0200
tilt! t...@linuxfoo.de wrote:
Steve Litt wrote on 27/07/2015 at 05:18 CEST:
You can roll your own automount with one day's work using
inotify-wait, dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works
without X or window manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:49:54PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
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As far as Windowmaker and Gnustep, if you can get those to serve you in
any kind of productive way, you're a better man than I. I find Unity
easier to use than those two. Speaking of Unity, Unity proved how many
users a
Steve Litt wrote on 27/07/2015 at 05:18 CEST:
You can roll your own automount with one day's work using inotify-wait,
dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works without X or window
manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if more than 20 people want it.
+1
However, I dont' have sudo installed,
On 07/26/2015 03:43 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
I agree on keeping an eye on GNUStep but, despite I am a WMaker user,
I wouldn't recommend it as a default in Devuan either.
HND
KatolaZ
Just my two cents,
Realistically, I believe the only sane choice for a *default* is XFCE
4.12. Aesthetically,
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 09:43:26 +0100
KatolaZ kato...@freaknet.org wrote:
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:21:14PM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
I personally don't see way we should have CDE as a default in Devuan,
given that the large majority of users would surely prefer something
*usable* instead than
Good evening,
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:49:54PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
I thought we'd decided on Xfce, and I'd thought that we managed to
de-xxx-ize Xfce. Everyone (except me) likes Xfce, why not use it?
It's trivial to use, even for somebody who's never seen it before.
It's the Nano
automount utility to replace
udisks.
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Subject: Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager
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Subject: Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager
Good evening,
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:49:54PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
I thought we'd decided on Xfce, and I'd
to replace
udisks.
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Subject: Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager
Good evening
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Steve Litt wrote:
I thought we'd decided on Xfce
sure! we are not debating a new decision on the default desktop here
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On 7/25/2015 9:54 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
I've heard that wayland will require systemd.
SteveT
I have to apologize, Steve.
When I refer to Wayland I am referring to the Linux project, which as
far as I know does NOT have anything to do with systemd. It's just
easier to call it Wayland
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:05:00 -0300
Marlon Nunes nu...@openmailbox.org wrote:
That's funny, yet everybody are 'still' using and depend on it to do
every day 'real' work and making money with it.
Until one can use wayland to get real work done, we can start talking
about it again.
I've heard
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com
wrote:
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:47:13PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
On 7/25/2015 9:54 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
I've heard that wayland will require systemd.
SteveT
I have to apologize, Steve.
When I
On 2015-07-24 23:14, T.J. Duchene wrote:
On 7/24/2015 8:02 PM, Marlon Nunes wrote:
On 2015-07-24 21:17, T.J. Duchene wrote:
CDE is basically dead, and in my opinion should remain dead. While I
can share your enthusiasm for older DE's, CDE was never a favorite of
anyone except corporate.
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015, Marlon Nunes wrote:
Until one can use wayland to get real work done, we can start talking
about it again.
I'm in favor of keeping this up as a general attitude for Devuan
choices. It is really important to understand that many of us are here
because we rely on tech in
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, T.J. Duchene wrote:
Not really, it wasn't a 'favorite' because it was not free.
I'm just saying that actual CDE use was rather a niche. Most used
something else back in the day.
didn't it ship by default with Sun and SGI machines?
I remember using it
as well something
On 2015-07-25 08:12, Roger Leigh wrote:
On 25/07/2015 10:53, James Powell wrote:
CDE was the defacto desktop for many UNIX branded systems like IRIX,
Solaris, HP-UX, and others until many replaced it with Gnome2, Xfce,
KDE, and others.
Sun/Oracle replaced CDE with Java Desktop Environment back
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 09:14:57PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
Setting that aside for a moment, X11 is a network protocol, not a
display system, and seldom used in today's world.
I'm very aware that X11 is a network protocol. I often use it that
way. Invaluable!
-- hendrik
was still unstable with some operations.
From: Marlon Nunesmailto:nu...@openmailbox.org
Sent: 7/24/2015 4:31 PM
To: dng@lists.dyne.orgmailto:dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: [DNG] A better default windows manager
Guys what about a true UNIX and complete desktop
differences.
However, last I had heard CDE was still unstable with some
operations.
I'm building it on NetBSD-Current to see how it goes
-
From: Marlon Nunes
Sent: 7/24/2015 4:31 PM
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: [DNG] A better default windows manager
Guys what
Guys what about a true UNIX and complete desktop environment to be the
'default' desktop for devuan 2.0?
here's what i'm talking about:
http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Home/
http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/What%20is%20CDE%3F/
CDE was designed with end users, software
On 2015-07-24 20:30, Marlon Nunes wrote:
Guys what about a true UNIX and complete desktop environment to be the
'default' desktop for devuan 2.0?
here's what i'm talking about:
http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Home/
http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/What%20is%20CDE%3F/
CDE
default windows manager
On 2015-07-24 20:48, James Powell wrote:
CDE is a classic UNIX desktop, but it has long been since viable for
modern usages.
Xfce, in truth, was a modern replacement for it using Xforms since
Motif was, at the time, under a different license. It bears the same
classic
On 2015-07-24 21:17, T.J. Duchene wrote:
On 7/24/2015 6:30 PM, Marlon Nunes wrote:
Guys what about a true UNIX and complete desktop environment to be the
'default' desktop for devuan 2.0?
here's what i'm talking about:
http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Home/
On 7/24/2015 8:02 PM, Marlon Nunes wrote:
On 2015-07-24 21:17, T.J. Duchene wrote:
CDE is basically dead, and in my opinion should remain dead. While I
can share your enthusiasm for older DE's, CDE was never a favorite of
anyone except corporate. Everyone else was using FVWM, Andrew, or
PM
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: [DNG] A better default windows manager
Guys what about a true UNIX and complete desktop environment to be
the
'default' desktop for devuan 2.0?
here's what i'm talking about:
http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Home/ [1] [1]
http
On 7/24/2015 6:30 PM, Marlon Nunes wrote:
Guys what about a true UNIX and complete desktop environment to be the
'default' desktop for devuan 2.0?
here's what i'm talking about:
http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Home/
http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/What%20is%20CDE%3F/
On 24/07/2015 23:48, James Powell wrote:
CDE is a classic UNIX desktop, but it has long been since viable for
modern usages.
Xfce, in truth, was a modern replacement for it using Xforms since Motif
was, at the time, under a different license. It bears the same classic
layout minus some
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