Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-05-12 Thread B Stack via Dng
The Pale Moon upstream chooses not to support WebRTC ( https://www.palemoon.org/roadmap.shtml), so Pale Moon most definitely will not work with calls like Jitsi Meet, etc. A few months ago it stopped working with Google Hangouts/Voice voice calls, which I eventually figured out was because

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-05-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 11:53:25PM -0500, Rod Rodolico wrote: > > No, it does not block any browser. But, it will not work as well (or at > all) with some. I've tested it so far with FF, Safari, Chromium, Chrome, > Pale Moon and IE. > > Chrome/Chromium - works consistently all the time > FF --

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-05-08 Thread Rod Rodolico
On 5/8/20 7:35 PM, tom wrote: > On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 09:24:47 +0300 > Dimitris via Dng wrote: > >> On 4/7/20 9:05 AM, Rod Rodolico wrote: >>> but it works so far with FF >> >> >> doesn't work for everyone, that's why jitsi suggests the use of >> chromium based browsers.. >> >>

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-05-08 Thread Rick Moen via Dng
Quoting tom (t...@206-212-236-243.static.onlinenw.com): > suggests? you mean flat out blocks anyone not on chrome or firefox Do your Web browsers tell the truth when queried for User-Agent? How very 1995 of you. ;-> -- Cheers, Rick Moen"The first rule of

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-05-08 Thread tom
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 09:24:47 +0300 Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 4/7/20 9:05 AM, Rod Rodolico wrote: > > but it works so far with FF > > > doesn't work for everyone, that's why jitsi suggests the use of > chromium based browsers.. > >

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-05-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 04:32:54PM +0200, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > Raul Claro wrote: > >     is there a way of holding a video- or an audioconference with > > Firefox (or Vivaldi) on Devuan?  The ones I have come in contact > > with. such als /https://global.gotomeeting.com/,

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-05-08 Thread dal
Hello Riccardo, > From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of Riccardo Mottola > via Dng > I installed SkypeForLinux and it works very well - maybe it is not the > best answer, it is not "open" but at least not browser based! ah! SO in I wonder, did you give for example [q]Tox

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-05-08 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, Raul Claro wrote:     is there a way of holding a video- or an audioconference with Firefox (or Vivaldi) on Devuan?  The ones I have come in contact with. such als /https://global.gotomeeting.com/, /work only with Windows or Mac and Chrome. Are there any Debian/Devuan alternatives

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 07:07:58AM +, R. de Vreede via Dng wrote: > Jitsi Meet can be used to phone in too if you have a SIP provider linked in > the settings. > I installed Jitsi Meet as a Docker container (the jitsi/jvb version) which > requires adapting settings in just one file including

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-12 Thread hal
On April 4, 2020 5:07:56 AM CDT, Raul Claro wrote: :: Dear Devlers, :: ::     is there a way of holding a video- or an audioconference with :: Firefox (or Vivaldi) on Devuan?  The ones I have come in contact :: with. :: such als /https://global.gotomeeting.com/, /work only with Windows or ::

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-09 Thread John Morris
On Wed, 2020-04-08 at 14:07 -0700, spiralofhope wrote: > As an aside, gab.com has been working on its own alternative, but they > haven't released any details (or source code) and I wouldn't be > surprised if it became a paid service for significant use. They have already said it will be a paid

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-09 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 4/8/20 9:03 PM, tom wrote: > I think it's pretty horrible for Jitsi to flat out block every other > browser than Chrome or Firefox. Jitsi "blocks" firefox too.. jitsi meet officially recommends only chromium-based browsers. work on firefox compatibility has started, but still nothing

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-09 Thread Eric Pozharski
On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 11:03:39AM -0700, tom wrote: > On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 11:34:19 +0300 > Dimitris via Dng wrote: >> On 4/7/20 5:17 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: >>> OMG how can you agree with Dal and then go on to suggest the use of >>> something cloud based and written in Java ? >> >> jitsi can

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-09 Thread Rod Rodolico
Did a little test of Jitsi tonight. First thing is there were no appreciable cpu or memory requirement increase when multiple users are connected in a session. However, bandwidth is a consideration. These readings are from the server. Started with two users. Bandwidth was at around 8Mb/s, pretty

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-08 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 12:07:56 +0200 Raul Claro wrote: >     is there a way of holding a video- or an audioconference with > Firefox (or Vivaldi) on Devuan?  The ones I have come in contact > with. such als /https://global.gotomeeting.com/, /work only with > Windows or Mac and Chrome. > >

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-08 Thread tom
On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 11:34:19 +0300 Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 4/7/20 5:17 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > OMG how can you agree with Dal and then go on to suggest the use of > > something cloud based and written in Java ? > > jitsi can be installed anywhere. https://meet.jit.si is cloud based

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-08 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 4/7/20 5:17 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: > OMG how can you agree with Dal and then go on to suggest the use of something > cloud based and written in Java ? jitsi can be installed anywhere. https://meet.jit.si is cloud based in europe dcs, run by jitsi devs, yes. but you don't have to use that,

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
Steve Litt wrote on 8/4/20 3:06 am: > On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 00:40:50 +1000 > Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > > >> I've done two separate jitsi installations on tiny qemu hosts >> (beowulf), single-cpu with 1G RAM (and 4G swap). An ad hoc test >> indicated a load increase of about 0.2 per

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2020 Tue, 7 Apr 14:11:57 -0500 Rod Rodolico scripsit: > yes. There is an icon on the screen (browser based) showing network > speed and drops. It will automagically change frame rate, though that is > not seamless. However, there is a menu item that allows you to change > your image

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Rod Rodolico
yes. There is an icon on the screen (browser based) showing network speed and drops. It will automagically change frame rate, though that is not seamless. However, there is a menu item that allows you to change your image quality from the browser session. The 8Mb/s was on my server. I believe my

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 00:40:50 +1000 Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > I've done two separate jitsi installations on tiny qemu hosts > (beowulf), single-cpu with 1G RAM (and 4G swap). An ad hoc test > indicated a load increase of about 0.2 per connections, and it worked > on the test with 8

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 01:05:10AM -0500, Rod Rodolico wrote: > I just installed a Jitsi instance on one of my old servers last week. My > 15 year old granddaughter did most of the work. We built it as a Xen > virtual with 10G disk, 4G RAM and 4 dedicated cores. We used ASCII as > the Distro. > >

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
Rod Rodolico wrote on 7/4/20 4:05 pm: > I just installed a Jitsi instance on one of my old servers last week. My > 15 year old granddaughter did most of the work. We built it as a Xen > virtual with 10G disk, 4G RAM and 4 dedicated cores. We used ASCII as > the Distro. > ... I've done two

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 03:17:43PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 07/04/2020 14:23, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > > Second that. I love qTox, but I need something for a lecture. > > Jitsi or https://meet.jit.si/ look like a nice thing - > > as long as I do not forget to revoke mic+camera

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 07/04/2020 à 02:46, Dan Purgert a écrit : Jitsi would be my initial go-to, as Zoom seems to have proven themselves less-than-trustworthy in the last couple of weeks.     In addition, Zoom is the one which depends on ibus.         Didier ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 07/04/2020 14:23, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Tue, 7 Apr 13:07:47 + > dal scripsit: >>> From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of g4sra via Dng >>> Sent: den 7 april 2020 14:31 >> >>> zoom is not an evil company, unlike Google they do not set out to take

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2020 Tue, 7 Apr 13:07:47 + dal scripsit: > > From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of g4sra via Dng > > Sent: den 7 april 2020 14:31 > > > zoom is not an evil company, unlike Google they do not set out to take your > > data, they are just a bit security naive.

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread dal
> From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of g4sra via Dng > Sent: den 7 april 2020 14:31 > zoom is not an evil company, unlike Google they do not set out to take your > data, they are just a bit security naive. How can you know/control what they will do with your data? Google

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 07/04/2020 09:48, Tomasz Kundera via Dng wrote: > Zoom has dedicated clients for Debian. It works in ascii at least. Personal experiences.. zoom became more stable after upgrading from ascii to beowulf. zoom would\will not launch from firefox, no issues launching from terminal and manually

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Dan Purgert
On Apr 06, 2020, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:46:03PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > > On Apr 04, 2020, Raul Claro wrote: > > > Dear Devlers, > > > > > >     is there a way of holding a video- or an audioconference with Firefox > > > (or Vivaldi) on Devuan?  The ones I have come

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Tomasz Kundera via Dng
Zoom has dedicated clients for Debian. It works in ascii at least. On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 3:46 AM Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:46:03PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > > On Apr 04, 2020, Raul Claro wrote: > > > Dear Devlers, > > > > > > is there a way of holding a video- or

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread dal
> is there a way of holding a video- or an audioconference with Firefox (or > Vivaldi) on Devuan?  The ones I have come in contact with. such als > https://global.gotomeeting.com/,  work only with Windows or Mac and Chrome. If you have got Devuan, you do not have to resort to browsers for

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread tom
On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 20:51:37 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2020-04-06 20:46, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:46:03PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > >> On Apr 04, 2020, Raul Claro wrote: > >> > Dear Devlers, > >> > > >> >     is there a way of holding a video- or an

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 4/7/20 9:05 AM, Rod Rodolico wrote: > but it works so far with FF doesn't work for everyone, that's why jitsi suggests the use of chromium based browsers.. https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/commit/92740707f01547d4e431050ade1d17589c544629#diff-12cdb961bef2a8b83d0f510226f85495

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Rod Rodolico
I just installed a Jitsi instance on one of my old servers last week. My 15 year old granddaughter did most of the work. We built it as a Xen virtual with 10G disk, 4G RAM and 4 dedicated cores. We used ASCII as the Distro. Tests so far have been two people (test for more planned for later this

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-06 Thread Dimitris T. via Dng
Iirc, jitsi meet works only with chrome/chromium. I only used nextcloud talk succesfully with ff-esr. P.s. bigbluebutton Στις 4 Απριλίου 2020 1:07:56 μ.μ. EEST, ο/η Raul Claro έγραψε: >Dear Devlers, > >     is there a way of holding a video- or an audioconference with >Firefox (or Vivaldi)

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-06 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:46:02PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I've been completely unable to get on Zoom from firefox esr. > Is it likely to work with Chrome or chromium? One of my regular > meeetings has chosen Zoom, leaving me little choice. Can you use a smart phone? Also, dialing in

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-06 Thread golinux
On 2020-04-06 20:46, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:46:03PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: On Apr 04, 2020, Raul Claro wrote: > Dear Devlers, > >     is there a way of holding a video- or an audioconference with Firefox > (or Vivaldi) on Devuan?  The ones I have come in contact with.

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:46:03PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > On Apr 04, 2020, Raul Claro wrote: > > Dear Devlers, > > > >     is there a way of holding a video- or an audioconference with Firefox > > (or Vivaldi) on Devuan?  The ones I have come in contact with. such als > >

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-06 Thread Dan Purgert
On Apr 04, 2020, Raul Claro wrote: > Dear Devlers, > >     is there a way of holding a video- or an audioconference with Firefox > (or Vivaldi) on Devuan?  The ones I have come in contact with. such als > /https://global.gotomeeting.com/, /work only with Windows or Mac and > Chrome. > > Are

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-06 Thread Raul Claro
Dear Devlers,     is there a way of holding a video- or an audioconference with Firefox (or Vivaldi) on Devuan?  The ones I have come in contact with. such als /https://global.gotomeeting.com/, /work only with Windows or Mac and Chrome. Are there any Debian/Devuan alternatives to these