Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi tito, tito via Dng writes: > [... snip ...] > What possible solutions are there to avoid this [KDE telemetry support] and > [its] > abuse? > > Simple workarounds that I can think off: > > 1) allow removal of KUserFeedback by modifying deb deps (rather ineffective > as most user will

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi tito, tito via Dng writes: > On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 22:40:23 +1000 > wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > >> >> > 3) if the user opted out create some kind of /dev/null folder (I suspect >> > that such >> > thing doesn't exist yet) to delete the data in realtime >> >> Is the data saved into the

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
HI tito, tito via Dng writes: > [... snip apparmor misgivings ...] > > one stupid question that struck my mind right now could > apparmor control itself? Even if it could, would you trust it to do what you told it to? > could you write an apparmor profile to limit what apparmor > is doing?

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread Steve Litt
tito via Dng said on Sun, 5 Sep 2021 09:52:11 +0200 >Hi, >while reading the latest edition of the PCLinuxOS Magazine, >I've found this interesting article about KUserFeedback >at https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202109/page09.html >which relevant parts I copy here for ease of discussion: > >"

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 08:00:51 -0600 Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 2021-09-05 at 12:54 +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm not very fond of apparmor for various reasons: > > > > 1) I experienced unexpected behavior of programs > > silently failing to do something (log, run,

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Sun, 2021-09-05 at 12:54 +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > Hi, > I'm not very fond of apparmor for various reasons: > > 1) I experienced unexpected behavior of programs > silently failing to do something (log, run, etc) > because the apparmor profile was wrong/bugged I experienced the

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 22:40:23 +1000 wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > > 3) if the user opted out create some kind of /dev/null folder (I suspect > > that such > > thing doesn't exist yet) to delete the data in realtime > > Is the data saved into the telemetry folder before being transmitted

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 11:07:59 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > On Sunday, September 5th, 2021 at 11:54 AM, tito via Dng > wrote: > > On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 10:18:15 + > > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > > On Sunday, September 5th, 2021 at 11:15 AM, tito farmat...@tiscali.it > > >

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 05 September 2021 at 14:46:34, tito via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 13:25:58 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > > > > You can say the same about network firewalls (or almost any security > > measure, in fact). Security is seldom aligned with convenience. > > Hi, > Yes and this makes

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 13:25:58 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > On Sunday 05 September 2021 at 12:54:01, tito via Dng wrote: > > > On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 10:18:15 + g4sra wrote: > > > > > > How is Apparmor abusive ? > > > > I'm not very fond of apparmor for various reasons: > > > > 1) I experienced

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> 3) if the user opted out create some kind of /dev/null folder (I suspect that > such > thing doesn't exist yet) to delete the data in realtime Is the data saved into the telemetry folder before being transmitted anywhere? Can you just delete the folder and recreate it as a symlink to

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 05 September 2021 at 12:54:01, tito via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 10:18:15 + g4sra wrote: > > > > How is Apparmor abusive ? > > I'm not very fond of apparmor for various reasons: > > 1) I experienced unexpected behavior of programs > silently failing to do something

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Sunday, September 5th, 2021 at 11:54 AM, tito via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 10:18:15 + > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > On Sunday, September 5th, 2021 at 11:15 AM, tito farmat...@tiscali.it wrote: > > > On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 08:54:14 + > > > g4sra via Dng

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 09:59:09 +0200 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng" wrote: > Hi! > > Anno domini 2021 Sun, 5 Sep 09:52:11 +0200 > tito via Dng scripsit: > > Hi, > > while reading the latest edition of the PCLinuxOS Magazine, > > I've found this interesting article about KUserFeedback > > at

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 10:18:15 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > On Sunday, September 5th, 2021 at 11:15 AM, tito wrote: > > On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 08:54:14 + > > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > > <--snip--> > > > > Comments and better ideas are welcome. > > > Apparmor > > Hi, > > the

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Sunday, September 5th, 2021 at 11:15 AM, tito wrote: > On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 08:54:14 + > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > <--snip--> > > > Comments and better ideas are welcome. > > Apparmor > Hi, > the cure is worse than the disease ;-) How is Apparmor abusive ? publickey

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 08:54:14 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > <--snip--> > > Comments and better ideas are welcome. > > Apparmor Hi, the cure is worse than the disease ;-) Ciao, Tito ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > Comments and better ideas are welcome. Apparmor publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng
Hi! Anno domini 2021 Sun, 5 Sep 09:52:11 +0200 tito via Dng scripsit: > Hi, > while reading the latest edition of the PCLinuxOS Magazine, > I've found this interesting article about KUserFeedback > at https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202109/page09.html > which relevant parts I copy here for ease

[DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
Hi, while reading the latest edition of the PCLinuxOS Magazine, I've found this interesting article about KUserFeedback at https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202109/page09.html which relevant parts I copy here for ease of discussion: " Recently, there was a debate on the PCLinuxOS forum about KDE