Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-04 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): > Imagine that you tried and failed to find any door that would taken a > skilled lockpicker more than three seconds to open. Would you leave the > entrance to your flat wide open without a door at all? That's what you're > suggesting. No, I'm not.

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 04:05:27PM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 12/4/20 3:56 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > > "1989tiananmen". > > > a different password worked. > > maybe it's too common? did you try adding special/more characters? I don't normally use such weak passwords. The whole exercis

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-04 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 5 Dec 2020, at 00:56, Adam Borowski wrote: > > First, an anecdote: to track sleep problems I have, I bought a cheapest > smartband, a Huawei one. It has almost no controls on its own, and it's UI > needs a dumbphone (Google or Apple infested) via Bluetooth. Because > $REASONS¹ I happen

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-04 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 12/4/20 3:56 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: "1989tiananmen". a different password worked. maybe it's too common? did you try adding special/more characters? So, hmm, how come a https connection gets intercepted by the Great Firewall? No hacking by the govt is involved here... if it doesn't

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-04 Thread Adam Borowski
First, an anecdote: to track sleep problems I have, I bought a cheapest smartband, a Huawei one. It has almost no controls on its own, and it's UI needs a dumbphone (Google or Apple infested) via Bluetooth. Because $REASONS¹ I happen to carry two phones, one of them such a dumbphone, with no IP n

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-03 Thread Rick Moen
I posted a wrong link, oops. > Retrospective case studies of some of the latter from over the prior decade: > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20201203.213847.8bf66630.en.html I meant this one: http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2020-December/011311.html __

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-03 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > What about the fact that Google gives higher rankings to secure > accounts? For google togive that higher ranking, does self-signing > suffice for enhanced rankings, or does one have to have a cert signed > by a certification company like Let's Enc

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 13:38:47 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > > > ..meanwhile, I too lean towards Ian's contrarianism: > > http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/lets_not_encrypt.xhtml > > I couldn't possibly agree more. Let's Encrypt is a Potemkin Village > ap

[DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-03 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > ..meanwhile, I too lean towards Ian's contrarianism: > http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/lets_not_encrypt.xhtml I couldn't possibly agree more. Let's Encrypt is a Potemkin Village approach to the SSL cert problem; it's pretend security that pretends a