Re: [DNG] Linux Without systemd: Why You Should Use Devuan, the Debian Fork

2018-07-26 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > Can I ask all of you something? How do people, who call themselves > developers, joyfully embrace a false choice like systemd vs sysvinit? The same way that the more-vocal djbware fans, and Prof. Bernstein himself, compared qmail _only_ with sendm

Re: [DNG] Linux Without systemd: Why You Should Use Devuan, the Debian Fork

2018-07-26 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juli 2018 schrieb Steve Litt: > [...] > Can I ask all of you something? How do people, who call themselves > developers, joyfully embrace a false choice like systemd vs sysvinit? > Do these same "developers" neglect to put in error handling for a bad > value, because the program

Re: [DNG] Linux Without systemd: Why You Should Use Devuan, the Debian Fork

2018-07-26 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 26 July 2018 at 17:16:56, Эльбрус Кондратьев wrote: > It's called 'herd behavior'. Someone told them that systemd constituted > 'the way to go'. Nevermind if that way results irrational. Oh well, at least it wasn't Hurd behaviour, otherwise we wouldn't have an Operating System at all

Re: [DNG] Linux Without systemd: Why You Should Use Devuan, the Debian Fork

2018-07-26 Thread Эльбрус Кондратьев
It's called 'herd behavior'. Someone told them that systemd constituted 'the way to go'. Nevermind if that way results irrational. Regards On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 10:49 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 07:13:52 -0400 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > I found this article online. > > > >

Re: [DNG] Linux Without systemd: Why You Should Use Devuan, the Debian Fork

2018-07-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 07:13:52 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > I found this article online. > > https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/debian-without-systemd-devuan/ I could have swapped the phrase "s6 plus s6-rc" for "systemd" and that entire video would have been true except the part that says if you're usi

[DNG] Linux Without systemd: Why You Should Use Devuan, the Debian Fork

2018-07-26 Thread Hendrik Boom
I found this article online. https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/debian-without-systemd-devuan/ It doesn't really get into the problems with systemd, unfortunately. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mai