Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-24 Thread aitor_czr
Hi fsmithred, El 23/05/16 a las 18:01, aitor_czr escribió: El 23/05/16 a las 14:00, fsmithred escribió: I installed using the devuan installer at the boot menu. The first time, I chose a root password. When I booted into the new installation, I could log in as user,

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-23 Thread aitor_czr
Hi frs, El 23/05/16 a las 19:13, fsmithred escribió: Modified refractasnapshot to make a snapshot of a system other than the one you're running. The snapshotted system only needs live-boot* and live-config* packages installed. The refractasnapshot deps and the script only need to be installed

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-23 Thread fsmithred
Modified refractasnapshot to make a snapshot of a system other than the one you're running. The snapshotted system only needs live-boot* and live-config* packages installed. The refractasnapshot deps and the script only need to be installed on the host system. Works on a mounted filesystem or a

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-23 Thread aitor_czr
El 23/05/16 a las 14:00, fsmithred escribió: I installed using the devuan installer at the boot menu. The first time, I chose a root password. When I booted into the new installation, I could log in as user, but I could not su to root and could not use sudo. Logging in

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-23 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
Thank you for all your work. | ISMAEL | - Original Message - From: aitor_czr To: KatolaZ ; Rainer Weikusat ; dng Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images Hi all, El 21/05/16 a las 14:00, Didier Kryn &l

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-23 Thread fsmithred
On 05/22/2016 06:33 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi fsr, > > El 22/05/16 a las 23:41, fsmithred escribió: >> On 05/22/2016 04:17 PM, aitor_czr wrote: >>> > >>> >I rebuilt KatolaZ's distribution doing some minor changes: I added >>> >deborphan, firmware-linux-free and ntp... I also removed the refracta

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-22 Thread fsmithred
On 05/22/2016 06:33 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi fsr, > > El 22/05/16 a las 23:41, fsmithred escribió: >> On 05/22/2016 04:17 PM, aitor_czr wrote: >>> > >>> >I rebuilt KatolaZ's distribution doing some minor changes: I added >>> >deborphan, firmware-linux-free and ntp... I also removed the refracta

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-22 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 06:32:14PM -0400, fsmithred wrote: [cut] > > n/m, I found KatolaZ's post where he lists the password. They are exactly > what I thought they were, but they don't work for me when I set the > keyboard at boot. > > I'm installing it now. That seems to be working

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-22 Thread aitor_czr
Hi fsr, El 22/05/16 a las 23:41, fsmithred escribió: On 05/22/2016 04:17 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > >I rebuilt KatolaZ's distribution doing some minor changes: I added >deborphan, firmware-linux-free and ntp... I also removed the refracta >tools from the filesystem.squashfs, including them in

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-22 Thread fsmithred
On 05/22/2016 05:41 PM, fsmithred wrote: > On 05/22/2016 04:17 PM, aitor_czr wrote: >> >> I rebuilt KatolaZ's distribution doing some minor changes: I added >> deborphan, firmware-linux-free and ntp... I also removed the refracta >> tools from the filesystem.squashfs, including them in

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-22 Thread fsmithred
On 05/22/2016 04:17 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > > I rebuilt KatolaZ's distribution doing some minor changes: I added > deborphan, firmware-linux-free and ntp... I also removed the refracta > tools from the filesystem.squashfs, including them in devuan-installer > together with the backend of

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-22 Thread aitor_czr
El 22/05/16 a las 22:17, aitor_czr escribió: Hi all, El 21/05/16 a las 14:00, Didier Kryn escribió: Le 21/05/2016 11:35, KatolaZ a écrit : >On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 08:18:16AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > >[cut] > >>>version of the initramfs), but might be useful if you want

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-22 Thread aitor_czr
Hi all, El 21/05/16 a las 14:00, Didier Kryn escribió: Le 21/05/2016 11:35, KatolaZ a écrit : >On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 08:18:16AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > >[cut] > >>>version of the initramfs), but might be useful if you want to use the >>>live image as a rescue cd, and

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-21 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 21/05/2016 11:35, KatolaZ a écrit : On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 08:18:16AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: [cut] version of the initramfs), but might be useful if you want to use the live image as a rescue cd, and boot into an existing / on your drive. Not necessary. Maybe useful. The disk

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 08:18:16AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: [cut] > >version of the initramfs), but might be useful if you want to use the > >live image as a rescue cd, and boot into an existing / on your > >drive. Not necessary. Maybe useful. > The disk controllers need to be on the live

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-21 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 20/05/2016 14:37, KatolaZ a écrit : On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 02:24:07PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 20/05/2016 13:11, KatolaZ a écrit : If you mean to run your live system with the cdrom as the root filesystem, then the only drivers you need during the initramfs phase are those needed

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-20 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 02:24:07PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 20/05/2016 13:11, KatolaZ a écrit : > >>> If you mean to run your live system with the cdrom as the root > >>>filesystem, then the only drivers you need during the initramfs > >>>phase are those needed to mount the cdrom, ie the

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-20 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 20/05/2016 13:11, KatolaZ a écrit : > If you mean to run your live system with the cdrom as the root >filesystem, then the only drivers you need during the initramfs >phase are those needed to mount the cdrom, ie the iso9660 filesystem >and the drivers needed to access the cdrom, which

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-20 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 10:56:19AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 19/05/2016 21:14, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : > >[I already strongly suspected the below but didn't want to write about > >it until I had a chance to test] > > > >THe initramfs doesn't need to include all the modules belonging to the

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-20 Thread David Hare
Interesting experiment.. I repacked fsr's iso (otherwise unmodified) using the initrd from the devuan-minimal-beta. That initrd was also repacked and xz-compressed (now 8.5MB). I booted it "findiso" (from iso file on an ext4 partition) with a "live-hook" script, which automatically loads my

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-20 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 19/05/2016 21:14, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : [I already strongly suspected the below but didn't want to write about it until I had a chance to test] THe initramfs doesn't need to include all the modules belonging to the kernel, just those which are needed to mount the real root filesystem

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-19 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 08:14:34PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > > > Imagine a case in which you, the user, would like to boot from a live > > image, e.g. for rescue purposes, only to find out that your live CD > > does not recognise your disk controller, or your graphic adapter, or > > your

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-15 Thread aitor_czr
16 at 11:59 AM, Go Linux<goli...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>On Sun, 5/15/16, Edward Bartolo<edb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images >> To: "KatolaZ"<kato...@freaknet.org> >> Cc: "dng"<dn

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-15 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 05:39:17PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > When I tried to install Devuan 64 bit on a Pentium Dual Core, 3 GB > DDR2, I couldn't get past the disk partitioner as it assumed I was > using LVM. I never used LVM because it unnecessarily adds another > layer of

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-15 Thread Edward Bartolo
n Sun, 5/15/16, Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images >> To: "KatolaZ" <kato...@freaknet.org> >> Cc: "dng" <dng@lists.dyne.org> >> Date: Sunday, May 15, 2016, 10:39 AM >>

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-15 Thread . fsmithred
graphical installer. (IMHO) Maybe you made a wrong turn somewhere. Mostly, I just hit ENTER to take the defaults. -fsr On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Go Linux <goli...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Sun, 5/15/16, Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [DNG] U

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-15 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 5/15/16, Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images To: "KatolaZ" <kato...@freaknet.org> Cc: "dng" <dng@lists.dyne.org> Date: Sunday, May 15, 2016, 10:39 AM > Hi, > > When I tried to ins

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-15 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, When I tried to install Devuan 64 bit on a Pentium Dual Core, 3 GB DDR2, I couldn't get past the disk partitioner as it assumed I was using LVM. I never used LVM because it unnecessarily adds another layer of complexity that I deem not necessary on a family computer. This means, I always use

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-14 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 07:52:49PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] > > Yes. What I was saying is to provide an additional initramfs. For > instance, you could have five initramfs files: > > 1) ext4, no lvm, no encryption > 2) ext4 plus encryption > 3) ext4 plus lvm > 4) ext4 plus encryption

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-14 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 10:21:39AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 13/05/2016 22:39, KatolaZ a écrit : > >On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 07:31:28PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > > >[cut] > > > >>Steve, I cannot (and I don't want to) make any assumption on behalf of > >>potential users of a minimal live system

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-14 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 13/05/2016 22:39, KatolaZ a écrit : On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 07:31:28PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: [cut] Steve, I cannot (and I don't want to) make any assumption on behalf of potential users of a minimal live system :) The initramfs contains all the modules shipped with the standard Devuan

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-13 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 07:31:28PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: [cut] > > Steve, I cannot (and I don't want to) make any assumption on behalf of > potential users of a minimal live system :) The initramfs contains all > the modules shipped with the standard Devuan kernel, that's why it is > so fat. In

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-13 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 02:06:27PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 13 May 2016 06:59:37 +0100 > KatolaZ wrote: > > > please try the iso linked from http://devuan.kalos.mine.nu > > > However, due to the size of the

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 13 May 2016 06:59:37 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > please try the iso linked from http://devuan.kalos.mine.nu However, due to the size of the ramdisk used at boot time, 256 MB of RAM are currently necessary to boot.

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-13 Thread Joel Roth
On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 11:20:41AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > hi Joel, > > On Thu, 12 May 2016, Joel Roth wrote: > > > On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 11:43:48AM -0400, fsmithred wrote: > > > If someone want to see what Devuan-Jessie beta looks like without > > > installing it, I made some live isos. I

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-13 Thread Jaromil
hi Joel, On Thu, 12 May 2016, Joel Roth wrote: > On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 11:43:48AM -0400, fsmithred wrote: > > If someone want to see what Devuan-Jessie beta looks like without > > installing it, I made some live isos. I expect that there will eventually > > be an official Devuan-Live, but this

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-13 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 05:45:02PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 11:43:48AM -0400, fsmithred wrote: > > If someone want to see what Devuan-Jessie beta looks like without > > installing it, I made some live isos. I expect that there will eventually > > be an official

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-12 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 11:43:48AM -0400, fsmithred wrote: > If someone want to see what Devuan-Jessie beta looks like without > installing it, I made some live isos. I expect that there will eventually > be an official Devuan-Live, but this is not it. HTH. > >

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-09 Thread aitor_czr
On 05/09/2016 01:27 AM, aitor_czr wrote: FWIW, +1 for lightdm. I switched in order to get keyboard and mouse >navigation to the greeter options. For integration with xfce, I did >need to perform a few extra steps. From memory, the 'switch user' >feature needed to be

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread fsmithred
On 05/08/2016 10:33 PM, Joel Roth wrote: > Go Linux wrote: >> On Sun, 5/8/16, Joel Roth wrote: >> Piggybacking onto this thread, I'd like to have a live >> distro to demo for friends who are still bombarded with >> hateful Windows popups. Ideally with heavy-weight apps such >> as

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread David Hare
Thanks Daniel.. note (others) that /etc/default/grub needs sorting also, although nothing to do with os-prober. The Debian version is enough, don't know why it's different in devuan (except the very elegant gfx theme, that's where it has to be referenced) On 9 May 2016 at 01:45, Joel Roth

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 5/8/16, Joel Roth <jo...@pobox.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, May 8, 2016, 7:45 PM Hi, Piggybacking onto this thread, I'd like to have a live distro to demo for friends who are still bombarded with hateful W

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread Joel Roth
Hi, Piggybacking onto this thread, I'd like to have a live distro to demo for friends who are still bombarded with hateful Windows popups. Ideally with heavy-weight apps such as libreoffice, firefox, thunderbird. And I'd like to write it to a USB drive, or SD card. I'm aware of Knoppix, and

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread fsmithred
Someone asked me about uefi support in the live iso. Answer: No uefi support in the live isos I released. I repacked the amd64 iso adding /boot and /efi folders from a solydx iso, as described here - http://refracta.freeforums.org/post5007.html#p5007 Also added current grub-efi debs to the

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread Daniel Reurich
Hi David, I've just forked os-prober here: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/os-prober I will add your patches and push it into all suites so we have that bug fixed when we get beta2 out. Regards, Daniel. On 09/05/16 08:31, David Hare wrote: > Found it..

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread aitor_czr
On 05/08/2016 05:21 PM, Boruch Baum wrote: FWIW, +1 for lightdm. I switched in order to get keyboard and mouse navigation to the greeter options. For integration with xfce, I did need to perform a few extra steps. From memory, the 'switch user' feature needed to be altered

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread David Hare
Found it.. /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/90linux-distro .. here's a patch I did long back: 127a128,130 > elif [ -e "$dir/etc/devuan_version" ]; then > short="Devuan" > long="$(printf "Devuan GNU/Linux (%s)\n" "$(cat > "$dir/etc/devuan_version")")" On 8 May 2016 at 20:57, David

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread David Hare
> (Note: I won't mess with /etc/default/grub unless instructed from above to do so.) This needs fixing in Devuan, not refractainstaller. After my edit to /etc/default/grub, the actual installation now shows correctly but Devuan installs on other partitions still show as "unknown linux

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread fsmithred
On 05/08/2016 07:24 AM, David Hare wrote: >> please test also the install and other functionalities > > OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on > real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G > ram. > > One glitch, simple to fix.. on first

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread Boruch Baum
FWIW, +1 for lightdm. I switched in order to get keyboard and mouse navigation to the greeter options. For integration with xfce, I did need to perform a few extra steps. From memory, the 'switch user' feature needed to be altered to use 'dm-tool' instead of 'gdmflexiserver', I ended up totally

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread Boruch Baum
FWIW, +1 for lightdm. I switched in order to get keyboard and mouse navigation to the greeter options. For integration with xfce, I did need to perform a few extra steps. From memory, the 'switch user' feature needed to be altered to use 'dm-tool' instead of 'gdmflexiserver', I ended up totally

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread David Hare
Next test .. run refractasnapshot on my new install, while it's still clean. Writing now from a "live session" of the resulting ISO, no apparent problem whatsoever. D On 8 May 2016 at 13:07, fsmithred wrote: > On 05/08/2016 07:24 AM, David Hare wrote: >>> please test also

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, May 08, 2016 at 12:24:33PM +0100, David Hare wrote: > > please test also the install and other functionalities > > OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on > real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G > ram. > > One glitch, simple

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread fsmithred
On 05/08/2016 07:24 AM, David Hare wrote: >> please test also the install and other functionalities > > OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on > real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G > ram. > > One glitch, simple to fix.. on first

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread David Hare
echo 'GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`' >> /etc/default/grub Sorted, menu now shows "Devuan" after update-grub. This file is also missing some other (mostly commented but informative) lines. On 8 May 2016 at 12:24, David Hare wrote: >>

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread David Hare
> please test also the install and other functionalities OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G ram. One glitch, simple to fix.. on first boot slim puked, the installer had failed to sort

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread Jaromil
On Sun, 08 May 2016, David Hare wrote: > Testing this here with most impressive results! Some of us have been > doing devuan-based live images since the beginning. This is probably > the first without core system packages from 3rd-party repos ( the > refracta snapshot and installer utilities are

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-07 Thread fsmithred
On 05/07/2016 03:39 PM, Go Linux wrote: > Earlier today fsr suggested I use the 9.3.3 version to make a snap of Devuan. > Not quite sure where it is on SF. > > golinux Yeah, if the primary user's name is not user, then the username= option needs to be in the boot command line. I added

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-07 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 5/7/16, Jim Murphy <srlinuxad...@gmail.com> wrote: On Sat, 5/7/16, Jim Murphy <srlinuxad...@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images To: "parazyd" <para...@dyne.org>, "dng" <

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-07 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 5/7/16, parazyd <para...@dyne.org> wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images To: "fsmithred" <fsmith...@gmail.com> Cc: "dng" <dng@lists.dyne.org> Date: Saturday, May 7, 2016, 1:53 PM On Sat, 07 May 2016, fsmithred wrote: >

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-07 Thread Jim Murphy
On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 1:53 PM, parazyd wrote: > On Sat, 07 May 2016, fsmithred wrote: > >> If someone want to see what Devuan-Jessie beta looks like without >> installing it, I made some live isos. I expect that there will eventually >> be an official Devuan-Live, but this is

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-07 Thread parazyd
On Sat, 07 May 2016, fsmithred wrote: > If someone want to see what Devuan-Jessie beta looks like without > installing it, I made some live isos. I expect that there will eventually > be an official Devuan-Live, but this is not it. HTH. > >

[DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-07 Thread fsmithred
If someone want to see what Devuan-Jessie beta looks like without installing it, I made some live isos. I expect that there will eventually be an official Devuan-Live, but this is not it. HTH. https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/unofficial_devuan_live/ Here's the README: UNOFFICIAL