Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread zap
On 06/28/2017 06:23 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 05:38:16PM -0400, zap wrote: > > [cut] > >> Oh the irony... >> >> To those on this list who are Christians or some other religious group... >> >> ;) anyways though thank you for helping me apply the fix on my system, >> I don't

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:59:05 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message <20170628195905.ga...@topoi.pooq.com>: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 07:58:13PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > ..if apt-get upgrade fails you, aptitude upgrade might work and > > vice versa, they solve package conflicts differently.

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2017-06-28 at 17:38 -0400, zap wrote: > > ;)  anyways though thank you for helping me apply the fix on my > system, I don't know what would have happened one way or another, but > thank you. I downgraded successfully! And thank you for reporting this issue so it could be resolved so

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 05:38:16PM -0400, zap wrote: [cut] > > Oh the irony... > > To those on this list who are Christians or some other religious group... > > ;) anyways though thank you for helping me apply the fix on my system, > I don't know what would have happened one way or another,

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 11:53:52PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > On Wednesday 28 June 2017 at 23:38:16, zap wrote: > > > Regardless, I thank you for forking debian to remove systemd. I know > > little of it, I only know it is less secure and slower to boot/more > > resource intensive/slower

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 28 June 2017 at 23:38:16, zap wrote: > Regardless, I thank you for forking debian to remove systemd. I know > little of it, I only know it is less secure and slower to boot/more > resource intensive/slower download speed. but thanks I plan to donate to > your cause perhaps even

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread zap
On 06/28/2017 04:49 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 01:45:55PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:40 PM, KatolaZ wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 03:59:05PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: As far as I can tell at the moment, they might

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 01:45:55PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:40 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 03:59:05PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > >> As far as I can tell at the moment, they might even require systemd. > > For those of

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread Bruce Perens
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:40 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 03:59:05PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> As far as I can tell at the moment, they might even require systemd. For those of you requiring ritual purification, I recommend this St. Ignutious video.

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 03:59:05PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 07:58:13PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > ..if apt-get upgrade fails you, aptitude upgrade might work and > > vice versa, they solve package conflicts differently. > > Safely? See above. ;o) > > That's

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
- From: "Hendrik Boom" <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> To: <dng@lists.dyne.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 07:58:13PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..if apt-get upgrade fails

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 07:58:13PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..if apt-get upgrade fails you, aptitude upgrade might work and > vice versa, they solve package conflicts differently. > Safely? See above. ;o) That's not the problem. aptitude and apt-get use the same repositories. The

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread Dave Turner
On 28/06/17 17:06, KatolaZ wrote: On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:50:07AM -0400, zap wrote: [cut] just wondered, Is aptitude upgrade safe? No, it was not safe. If you have upgraded your Devuan Ascii (testing) system in the last 24 hours, using whatever mean (apt-get, apt, aptitude, synaptic,

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:06:18 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20170628160618.gu14...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:50:07AM -0400, zap wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > just wondered, Is aptitude upgrade safe? > > > > No, it was not safe. If you have upgraded your Devuan Ascii

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread Boruch Baum
Hello all, I'd like to get a few comments in to the devuan developers before a "fix" is decided upon. I'll also share the anecdote of how a separate problem in the devuan infrastructure indirectly saved me from falling victim to this incident: 1] IMO, the issue isn't really that devuan wasn't

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:50:07AM -0400, zap wrote: [cut] > > just wondered, Is aptitude upgrade safe? > No, it was not safe. If you have upgraded your Devuan Ascii (testing) system in the last 24 hours, using whatever mean (apt-get, apt, aptitude, synaptic, etc.) you might have erroneously

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread zap
On 06/28/2017 08:11 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 02:06:43PM +0200, para...@dyne.org wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017, Svante Signell wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 2017-06-28 at 13:28 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: Hi, Too late for me. Apt logged the following information:

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 02:06:43PM +0200, para...@dyne.org wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2017, Svante Signell wrote: > > > On Wed, 2017-06-28 at 13:28 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Too late for me. Apt logged the following information: > > > > > > Start-Date: 2017-06-25  18:47:08

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread para...@dyne.org
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017, Svante Signell wrote: > On Wed, 2017-06-28 at 13:28 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Too late for me. Apt logged the following information: > > > > Start-Date: 2017-06-25  18:47:08 > > Commandline: apt-get upgrade > > Upgrade: libpam0g:amd64 (1.1.8-3.5,

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2017-06-28 at 13:28 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > Too late for me. Apt logged the following information: > > Start-Date: 2017-06-25  18:47:08 > Commandline: apt-get upgrade > Upgrade: libpam0g:amd64 (1.1.8-3.5, 1.1.8-3.6), debconf:amd64 (1.5.60, > 1.5.61),... > [ a very long

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread Jaromil
The ascii repositories are now offline. We will proceed sorting the issue and keeping you informed. I hope everyone understands this is the first time we experience a switch of Debian releases and that it is well part of our 'testing' phase to adjust amprolla's behaviour to behave on these

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

2017-06-28 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, Too late for me. Apt logged the following information: Start-Date: 2017-06-25 18:47:08 Commandline: apt-get upgrade Upgrade: libpam0g:amd64 (1.1.8-3.5, 1.1.8-3.6), debconf:amd64 (1.5.60, 1.5.61),... [ a very long list of packages ] End-Date: 2017-06-25 18:55:08 -- If you can't explain it