On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:39:51 -0700, Rick wrote in message
<20180621033951.gg32...@linuxmafia.com>:
> Quoting Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI (ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org):
>
> > On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:16:10 +0200
> > "J. Fahrner" wrote:
> >
> > > Bunsenlab has also a GUI program for adjusting fonts
Am 2018-06-21 02:40, schrieb Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI:
On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:16:10 +0200
"J. Fahrner" wrote:
Bunsenlab has also a GUI program for adjusting fonts for Gtk.
Where can one find it ?
It's lxappearance
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:16:10 +0200
"J. Fahrner" wrote:
> Bunsenlab has also a GUI program for adjusting fonts for Gtk.
Where can one find it ?
Cheers,
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 15:53:56 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> Bear in mind that with a Window Manager, you can only adjust fonts for
> the windows, not the applications in side the windows. Those
> applications are adjustable via the adjuster program for their library:
> Qt
Am 2017-08-28 21:53, schrieb Steve Litt:
Bear in mind that with a Window Manager, you can only adjust fonts for
the windows, not the applications in side the windows. Those
applications are adjustable via the adjuster program for their library:
Qt or Gtk. So you have to run the adjuster program
On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 18:37:00 +0200
"J. Fahrner" wrote:
> Am 2017-08-28 18:26, schrieb Edward Bartolo:
> > XFCE 4 gives me font type/size configurability. Window Managers do
> > not give me that functionality expecting me to spend hours upon
> > hours ruining my eyes groping in
Am 2017-08-28 18:26, schrieb Edward Bartolo:
XFCE 4 gives me font type/size configurability. Window Managers do not
give me that functionality expecting me to spend hours upon hours
ruining my eyes groping in configuration files for the relevant
settings.
Sure they do! Try Bunsenlabs Linux
XFCE 4 gives me font type/size configurability. Window Managers do not
give me that functionality expecting me to spend hours upon hours
ruining my eyes groping in configuration files for the relevant
settings.
Some people do not have the luxury of a pair of very strong eyes -
small fonts are a
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 18:16:07 +1000
Erik Christiansen wrote:
[snip]
>
> That's good news. If LXQt were merely LXDE with a different grahics
> base, that'd be great. We'll see what the Razor-qt has brought with
> it.
I tried LXQt for awhile. It's good enough, IMHO. I'll
In www.devuan.org I don't find a link to write wiki pages with
procedures (eg. wiki.devuan.org/Enlightment )
El 17/08/17 a les 10:27, Eric ha escrit:
> On 08/14/2017 11:45 PM, Erik Christiansen wrote:
>> Finding Devuan, and subscribing last night, I'm keen to replace my
>> Debian 9.0
On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 at 10:05:55 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 02:17:03AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > Every time one uses the word "cgroups" he's subtly arguing for
> > systemd. Every time one uses the word "DE" he's subtly arguing for
> >
On 17/08/17 09:16, Harald Arnesen wrote:
Rick Moen [2017-08-17 00:55]:
So, here's a point: If you have a Linux system with Thunar (graphical
file manager) and the xfwm4 window manager, I'm betting that those _are_
99% of what you think of as 'XFCE4'.
Not quite.
I'm betting that you don't
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:05:55AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 02:17:03AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > Every time one uses the word "cgroups" he's subtly arguing for
> > systemd. Every time one uses the word "DE" he's subtly arguing for
> > complex, and usually bloated,
Android apps run in one process each, and anything in the background
may be killed at any moment. If you are in the background and the
foreground app needs memory, you just die. If the system invokes you,
you do not get another process, you get another thread in your existing
process.
Thus,
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 02:17:03AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Every time one uses the word "cgroups" he's subtly arguing for
> systemd. Every time one uses the word "DE" he's subtly arguing for
> complex, and usually bloated, GOSFUIs.
Just wondering. Does Android use cgroups in its attampt to
Quoting Rowland Penny (rpe...@samba.org):
> Probably because you don't want to see it, your tone seemed to say
> 'Butt out Steve'
That's indeed approximately what I said to my friend Steve, albeit quite
a bit more politely than you're paraphrasing it.
But the point is that this is very much
On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 04:15:58 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Rowland Penny (rpe...@samba.org):
>
> > Certainly:
> >
> > [quote]
> > Steve, please stop helping. As you often do, you are just adding
> > noise. [/quote]
>
> I remain unclear on how politely asking my friend
Quoting Rowland Penny (rpe...@samba.org):
> Certainly:
>
> [quote]
> Steve, please stop helping. As you often do, you are just adding noise.
> [/quote]
I remain unclear on how politely asking my friend to stop 'helping' in
this case prevents him from ignoring my request, if he prefers to
On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 04:01:50 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Rowland Penny (rpe...@samba.org):
>
> > Rick, Steve has just as much a right to a point of view as you do.
> > In fact, you both seem to be saying the same thing, just in
> > different ways.
>
> I'm missing the
Quoting Rowland Penny (rpe...@samba.org):
> Rick, Steve has just as much a right to a point of view as you do. In
> fact, you both seem to be saying the same thing, just in different ways.
I'm missing the part where I decreed to my friend Steve he has no right
to butt into a conversation I've
On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 03:32:31 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
>
> > That wouldn't be true of me. Back when I was an Xfce user, I defined
> > Xfce as:
> >
> > * Able to use multiple panels
> > * Able to config the panels via right
Quoting Harald Arnesen (har...@skogtun.org):
> Rick Moen [2017-08-17 00:55]:
>
> > So, here's a point: If you have a Linux system with Thunar (graphical
> > file manager) and the xfwm4 window manager, I'm betting that those _are_
> > 99% of what you think of as 'XFCE4'.
>
> Not quite.
And
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> That wouldn't be true of me. Back when I was an Xfce user, I defined
> Xfce as:
>
> * Able to use multiple panels
> * Able to config the panels via right click
> * Kinda twitchy during config on Linux, but rock solid on OpenBSD
I note without
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> Rick, look in the mirror: You caused this. Every time you use words like
> "Desktop Environment", "Desktop", and "DE" you make them sound special
> (and geez, I have to investigate whether I need one), when in reality
> they're all GOSFUIs. Some
On 17.08.17 01:27, Eric wrote:
> I was able to install enlightenment desktop from
>
> https://www.enlightenment.org
>
> I followed along with the directions on their download page and also from
> the site:
>
> https://www.tecmint.com/install-enlightenment-on-devuan-linux/
>
>
> It works with
Rick Moen [2017-08-17 00:55]:
> So, here's a point: If you have a Linux system with Thunar (graphical
> file manager) and the xfwm4 window manager, I'm betting that those _are_
> 99% of what you think of as 'XFCE4'.
Not quite.
> I'm betting that you don't actually have a specific desire and
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 15:55:30 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> So, here's a point: If you have a Linux system with Thunar (graphical
> file manager) and the xfwm4 window manager, I'm betting that those
> _are_ 99% of what you think of as 'XFCE4'.
That wouldn't be true of me.
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 10:34:10 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk):
>
> [snip much]
>
> > And like it or not, for this very large group of people, the
> > "desktop" needs to be familiar enough (ie look and work like
> > Windows) for them to
Quoting Harald Arnesen (har...@skogtun.org):
> From a not quite novice:
>
> I started with Slackware in 1993, have used Linux more or less
> exclusively (for my private work) since then. In the beginning with
> FVWM2, later with IceWM, now with XFCE4, which increased productivity a
> lot for me.
Rick Moen [2017-08-16 19:34]:
> The part you didn't address is where a DE is even helpful for this.
> It's not.
>
> You've argued for a novice-friendly assemblage of good grapical
> applications (in such use-cases), not for a DE.
>
> In any event, your concern appears irrelevant to the
Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk):
[snip much]
> And like it or not, for this very large group of people, the "desktop"
> needs to be familiar enough (ie look and work like Windows) for them
> to be able to carry on with their trial and error prodding to get
> things done.
The part
Rick Moen wrote:
> Honestly, who the Gehenna needs a Desktop Environment? Because it
> bundles a graphical file shell? If you want one of those, install
> whichever one you like best on an a la carte basis. The whole DE
> concept lacks a compelling justification, IMO.
Quoting Erik Christiansen (dva...@internode.on.net):
> I might just settle for the default XFCE for a while, after all: Life is
> the art of the possible. LXQt on ascii will be worth a try when it's
> out, though.
Honestly, who the Gehenna needs a Desktop Environment? Because it
bundles a
Multiple replies here, to minimise list traffic:
On 15.08.17 13:18, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 16:45:05 +1000
> Sporting a similar user interace, but with increased stability,
> parsamonious use of resources, and absolutely no allegience to systemd
> is LXDE. For the past 4 years the
Thanks for the link. Might check it out when I can find some spare hardware
lying around.
> Sorry, i didn't attach the link:
>
> http://gnuinos.org/Gnuinos%20Ascii%20Beta/
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On 08/15/2017 11:07 PM, aitor wrote:
Hi Tom,
On 08/15/2017 07:18 PM, Tom Cassidy wrote:
There's no release for ascii yet. You'll just have to dist-upgrade from jessie
if you want to try it.
I've been running ascii + experimental/eudev on my work desktop and laptop
Hi Tom,
On 08/15/2017 07:18 PM, Tom Cassidy wrote:
There's no release for ascii yet. You'll just have to dist-upgrade from jessie
if you want to try it.
I've been running ascii + experimental/eudev on my work desktop and laptop for
a few months without trouble.
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 16:45:05 +1000, Erik wrote in message
<20170815064505.GA3443@ratatosk>:
> Finding Devuan, and subscribing last night, I'm keen to replace my
> Debian 9.0 "Systemdix"¹, even at the cost of reverting to older
> packages. But I don't much like Gnome either, and have become
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 16:45:05 +1000
Erik Christiansen wrote:
> Finding Devuan, and subscribing last night, I'm keen to replace my
> Debian 9.0 "Systemdix"¹, even at the cost of reverting to older
> packages. But I don't much like Gnome either, and have become quite
>
There's no release for ascii yet. You'll just have to dist-upgrade from jessie
if you want to try it.
I've been running ascii + experimental/eudev on my work desktop and laptop for
a few months without trouble.
-- Tomas
> I might just settle for the default XFCE for a while, after all: Life
On 15.08.17 20:03, Tom Cassidy wrote:
> Have you thought about LXQt? Upstream LXDE stopped development a while
> back and merged with Razor-qt into the new project running on Qt
> instead of GTK.
Oh, dear world, please slow down. I can't keep up.
> Unfortunately it's only in repositories for
Have you thought about LXQt? Upstream LXDE stopped development a while back and
merged with Razor-qt into the new project running on Qt instead of GTK.
Unfortunately it's only in repositories for ascii and later, so not available
on jessie.
-- Tomas
> I've downloaded the CD iso, and will try
On 15.08.17 08:54, KatolaZ wrote:
> Hi Erik,
>
> you are welcome to ask technical questions on this ML. There is no
> stated prefrerence for the forum anywhere. ...
Many thanks, KatolaZ, for the clarification. It seems that Devuan is a
welcoming community, not averse to new members, after all.
OK, so it is NOT a Devuan policy to direct people to use
dev1galaxy.org to ask their questions, notwithstanding such questions,
are unrelated to development.
Please, consider this a closed case.
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)
If you
My office desktop runs KDE on Devuan, without any problems.
Arnt
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Den 2017-08-15 kl. 08:45, skrev Erik Christiansen:
Finding Devuan, and subscribing last night, I'm keen to replace my
Debian 9.0 "Systemdix"¹, even at the cost of reverting to older
packages. But I don't much like Gnome either, and have become quite used
to LXDE - especially the boot speed of
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 05:32:04PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
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>
> Ah, that is very disappointing. After more than 30 years of using *nix,
> I have not transitioned to the use of fora. The login necessity offends
> nearly as much as systemd, but I find that several years go by between
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 09:13:21AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
[cut]
>
> P.S.
> For questions like these users are encouraged to use the forum:
> dev1galaxy.org
>
Uh?
Since when are people encouraged to do so? This ML is a technical and
social one. People are free to ask technical questions
On 15.08.17 09:13, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> As far as I can tell the default is XFCE. However, Linux is not MS
> Windows meaning you can start off from a base system with just a
> terminal. Then, you can install whatever graphical interface you want.
> Keep in mind some desktop might be unavailable
As far as I can tell the default is XFCE. However, Linux is not MS
Windows meaning you can start off from a base system with just a
terminal. Then, you can install whatever graphical interface you want.
Keep in mind some desktop might be unavailable as disentagling them
from systemd/libsystemd et
Finding Devuan, and subscribing last night, I'm keen to replace my
Debian 9.0 "Systemdix"¹, even at the cost of reverting to older
packages. But I don't much like Gnome either, and have become quite used
to LXDE - especially the boot speed of the leaner environment.
So the question is as put in
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