On 2022-04-10 2:18, Mark Hindley wrote:
Nate,
On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 09:55:45AM -0700, nate wrote:
My Beowulf system has sysvinit (which shutdown appears to come from)
version
2.93-8+devuan1 and my Chimeara system has 2.96-7+devuan1. Nothing
stands
out in the changelog for sysvinit to
Nate,
On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 09:55:45AM -0700, nate wrote:
> My Beowulf system has sysvinit (which shutdown appears to come from) version
> 2.93-8+devuan1 and my Chimeara system has 2.96-7+devuan1. Nothing stands
> out in the changelog for sysvinit to explain this kind of behavioral
> change.
Hello folks - hope your day is going well.
I had a funky power situation this morning, power problems at home are
super
rare and this is the first time I want to say in 10+ years that I've
actually
had my UPS run out of battery on me.
What surprised me was that the shutdown command coming
I have an NXP iMX8 system based on a SMARC SoM module from Embedian
which was shipped with Debian 11.
I have successfully used debootstrap to make a Devuan 4.0 system to get
rid of systemd and put the ath10k firmware in /lib/firmware for the wifi
card but now the system hangs for around 2
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 13:24:26 +
Mike Tubby wrote:
> Just in case anyone is interested, I have had good success at installing
> Devuan 4.0 on to second hand Sophos firewall hardware (XG115 and XG125,
> Rev 3) to make light-weight firewalls and network appliances.
Hi,
I have it running on a
Just in case anyone is interested, I have had good success at installing
Devuan 4.0 on to second hand Sophos firewall hardware (XG115 and XG125,
Rev 3) to make light-weight firewalls and network appliances.
You have to use a terminal program on the console port at 38400 to get
access to the
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 07:42:18PM +0100, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:
>
> My suspected is that the (totally unecessary) usr-merge decision made by
> Debian will force (almost) all its derivatives to adapt even if they
> despite.
>
> This is because maintaining a derived distribution rejecting
Sat, 13 Nov 2021 17:24:51 -0500 - Steve Litt :
> k...@aspodata.se said on Sat, 13 Nov 2021 22:28:02 +0100 (CET)
>
> >James Cloos:
> >> > John Morris via Dng writes:
> >> > So yes, it is time to eliminate /bin, /sbin and /lib.
> >> the real result shod be eliminate /usr.
> >
>
Le 16/11/2021 à 01:44, Florian Zieboll via Dng a écrit :
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 21:19:08 +0100
> Antoine via Dng wrote:
>> For what it's worth, I can confirm this : I ran a BeagleBoneBlack
>> build of Devuan for a while and was rather surprised one day to
>> discover that it had no kernel package
On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 21:19:08 +0100
Antoine via Dng wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, I can confirm this : I ran a BeagleBoneBlack
> build of Devuan for a while and was rather surprised one day to
> discover that it had no kernel package installed at all. The kernel
> and initramfs where packed
On Saturday, 13 November at 22:31, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 13/11/2021 à 20:46, Steve Litt a écrit :
(snip)
Hi Karl,
I think it's more than just a little time. Every time the kernel
updates, you need to get the new kernel's source, recompile, and
replace the new kernel.
It *is* an interesting
Steve Litt - 13.11.21, 23:24:51 CET:
> By the way, for the person who really wants the usr merge, wouldn't
> the conversion from an unmerged system consist of two mass copies and
> a few symlinks?
No.
At least not if you like dpkg to be working fine. As I noted before, see:
k...@aspodata.se said on Sat, 13 Nov 2021 22:28:02 +0100 (CET)
>James Cloos:
>> > John Morris via Dng writes:
>> > So yes, it is time to eliminate /bin, /sbin and /lib.
>> the real result shod be eliminate /usr.
>
>Guys, please don't push unnessary changes and policies
>to the user.
Le 13/11/2021 à 20:46, Steve Litt a écrit :
> k...@aspodata.se said on Sat, 13 Nov 2021 12:42:51 +0100 (CET)
>
>> Steve Litt:
>>> John Morris via Dng said on Fri, 12 Nov 2021 17:26:52 -0600
On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 01:56 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
>> ...
The size of the OS is just so
James Cloos:
> > John Morris via Dng writes:
> > So yes, it is time to eliminate /bin, /sbin and /lib.
> the real result shod be eliminate /usr.
Guys, please don't push unnessary changes and policies
to the user. Let each and everyone be the master of his/her
own systems.
Just because
k...@aspodata.se said on Sat, 13 Nov 2021 12:42:51 +0100 (CET)
>Steve Litt:
>> John Morris via Dng said on Fri, 12 Nov 2021 17:26:52 -0600
>> >On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 01:56 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
>...
>> >The size of the OS is just so small now, compared to storage media
>> >and data files.
> John Morris via Dng writes:
> So yes, it is time to eliminate /bin, /sbin and /lib.
the real result shod be eliminate /usr.
system packages should all use --prefix=/, local ones should default
to --prefix=/local, and closed src crap^Wstuff should use things like
/opt/FOO for a prefix.
Am Samstag, 13. November 2021 schrieb Didier Kryn:
> Le 13/11/2021 à 08:48, Didier Kryn a écrit :
> > Le 13/11/2021 à 00:26, John Morris via Dng a écrit :
> >> So yes, it is time to eliminate /bin, /sbin and /lib.
> >
> > Seems I've got it wrong. My understanding was that /usr/bin and
> >
Steve Litt:
> John Morris via Dng said on Fri, 12 Nov 2021 17:26:52 -0600
> >On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 01:56 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
...
> >The size of the OS is just so small now, compared to storage media and
> >data files. Even a small SSD will easily hold all of /usr for all but
> >the most
On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 09:32:38AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> I now understand the concern of Steve: it looks like the beginning
> of an attempt to force initramfs on people, even if it is not effective yet.
I too dislike having to use initramfs rather than having the essential
modules
Le 13/11/2021 à 08:48, Didier Kryn a écrit :
> Le 13/11/2021 à 00:26, John Morris via Dng a écrit :
>> So yes, it is time to eliminate /bin, /sbin and /lib.
> Seems I've got it wrong. My understanding was that /usr/bin and
> /usr/sbin were merged into /bin and /sbin. You assume the opposite
Le 13/11/2021 à 00:26, John Morris via Dng a écrit :
> So yes, it is time to eliminate /bin, /sbin and /lib.
Seems I've got it wrong. My understanding was that /usr/bin and
/usr/sbin were merged into /bin and /sbin. You assume the opposite and
probably so does Steve.
Needs
John Morris via Dng said on Fri, 12 Nov 2021 17:26:52 -0600
>On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 01:56 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
>>
>> The logic is still the same. I need a guaranteed place on the root
>> partition to find the programs necessary to mount all the other
>> partitions, or else I'll need to run an
On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 01:56 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> The logic is still the same. I need a guaranteed place on the root
> partition to find the programs necessary to mount all the other
> partitions, or else I'll need to run an initramfs.
Been following this debate. Admit that a few years
Le 09/11/2021 à 07:56, Steve Litt a écrit :
> The logic is still the same. I need a guaranteed place on the root
> partition to find the programs necessary to mount all the other
> partitions, or else I'll need to run an initramfs.
You just need that the root partition be large enough to
Didier Kryn said on Mon, 8 Nov 2021 13:50:25 +0100
>Le 06/11/2021 à 03:03, Steve Litt a écrit :
>> Personally, I want a directory, guaranteed not to be a mount point,
>> where the statically compiled binaries necessary to bring up the
>> system, things like mount and ln and vi and fsck, etc, so
Didier Kryn - 08.11.21, 13:50:25 CET:
> What is called "interpreter" here is the dynamic linker associated to
> the shared version of gcc, the Gnu C library. There is practically no
> statically linked application in a Debian distribution, except some
> part of debootstrap.
Well and special
On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 13:50:25 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 06/11/2021 à 03:03, Steve Litt a écrit :
> > Personally, I want a directory, guaranteed not to be a mount point,
> > where the statically compiled binaries necessary to bring up the
> > system, things like mount and ln and vi and fsck,
Le 08/11/2021 à 13:50, Didier Kryn a écrit :
> Le 06/11/2021 à 03:03, Steve Litt a écrit :
>> Personally, I want a directory, guaranteed not to be a mount point,
>> where the statically compiled binaries necessary to bring up the
>> system, things like mount and ln and vi and fsck, etc, so if I
Le 06/11/2021 à 03:03, Steve Litt a écrit :
> Personally, I want a directory, guaranteed not to be a mount point,
> where the statically compiled binaries necessary to bring up the
> system, things like mount and ln and vi and fsck, etc, so if I don't
> want to, I don't have to run an initramfs.
>> On 11/5/21 4:13 PM, Svante Signell via Dng wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2021-11-05 at 18:50 +, Alexis PM via Dng wrote:
Debian 11 Bullseye is the last Debian release that supports the
non-
merged-usr layout. It is therefore foreseeable that Devuan 4
Chimaera
will also be.
Harald Arnesen via Dng - 06.11.21, 12:31:16 CET:
> william moss via Dng [05/11/2021 22.49]:
> > BSD and system V (AT/Bell Labs System Five) switched more than a
> > decade ago.
>
> Certainly not FreeBSD:
>
> $ uname -or
> FreeBSD 13.0-STABLE
>
> $ ls /bin | wc -l
>44
>
> $ ls /usr/bin
william moss via Dng [05/11/2021 22.49]:
BSD and system V (AT/Bell Labs System Five) switched more than a
decade ago.
Certainly not FreeBSD:
$ uname -or
FreeBSD 13.0-STABLE
$ ls /bin | wc -l
44
$ ls /usr/bin | wc -l
488
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william moss via Dng - 05.11.21, 22:49:42 CET:
> On 11/5/21 4:13 PM, Svante Signell via Dng wrote:
> > On Fri, 2021-11-05 at 18:50 +, Alexis PM via Dng wrote:
> >> Debian 11 Bullseye is the last Debian release that supports the
> >> non-
> >> merged-usr layout. It is therefore foreseeable
On 11/5/21 4:13 PM, Svante Signell via Dng wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-11-05 at 18:50 +, Alexis PM via Dng wrote:
>> Debian 11 Bullseye is the last Debian release that supports the non-
>> merged-usr layout. It is therefore foreseeable that Devuan 4 Chimaera
>> will also be.
>>
>
> I'm not so sure
Alexis PM via Dng said on Fri, 5 Nov 2021 18:50:41 + (UTC)
> Debian 11 Bullseye is the last Debian release that supports the
> non-merged-usr layout.
>It is therefore foreseeable that Devuan 4 Chimaera will also be.
>
>Official Debian information:
>
>The historical justifications for the
Martin Steigerwald said on Fri, 05 Nov 2021 15:44:06 +0100
>No need to Cc me. I am subscribed. (I know there are different habits,
>so just a friendly information.)
Me too. I'm on the list, and people cc'ing me when replying to the list
or writing to me and cc'ing the list just complexify my
Svante Signell via Dng - 05.11.21, 21:13:10 CET:
> On Fri, 2021-11-05 at 18:50 +, Alexis PM via Dng wrote:
> > Debian 11 Bullseye is the last Debian release that supports the
> > non-
> > merged-usr layout. It is therefore foreseeable that Devuan 4
> > Chimaera
> > will also be.
>
> I'm not
On Fri, 2021-11-05 at 18:50 +, Alexis PM via Dng wrote:
> Debian 11 Bullseye is the last Debian release that supports the non-
> merged-usr layout. It is therefore foreseeable that Devuan 4 Chimaera
> will also be.
>
I'm not so sure Devuan has to follow Debian with respect to merged-
/usr.
Debian 11 Bullseye is the last Debian release that supports the non-merged-usr
layout.
It is therefore foreseeable that Devuan 4 Chimaera will also be.
Official Debian information:
The historical justifications for the filesystem layout with /bin,
/sbin, and /lib directories separate from
Hi Svante.
No need to Cc me. I am subscribed. (I know there are different habits, so
just a friendly information.)
Svante Signell - 05.11.21, 11:26:52 CET:
> On Fri, 2021-11-05 at 10:52 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Debian 11 defaults to usr merge. So the installed system used usr
> >
On Fri, 2021-11-05 at 10:52 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I migrated a Debian Buster to Devuan Chimaera by already install runit-
> init into /target during Debian installation and then switching over
> sources.list to Chimaera.
>
> Debian 11 defaults to usr merge. So the installed
Hi!
I migrated a Debian Buster to Devuan Chimaera by already install runit-
init into /target during Debian installation and then switching over
sources.list to Chimaera.
Debian 11 defaults to usr merge. So the installed system used usr merge.
I suppose Devuan is compatible and will remain
Dear Friends and Software Freedom Lovers,
Devuan Developers are pleased to announce the release of Devuan Chimaera
4.0 as the project's newest stable release. This is the result of lots of
painstaking work by the team and extensive testing by the wider Devuan
community.
On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 08:45:50 +1000
Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 21:39:01 +0200
> tito wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 09:57:59 +1000
> > Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> >
> > > This one turned out to be that someone (aka me) had mistakenly
> > > raised a blanket
On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 21:39:01 +0200
tito wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 09:57:59 +1000
> Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>
> > This one turned out to be that someone (aka me) had mistakenly
> > raised a blanket traffic blockage as a misdirected response to an
> > apparent DoS effect via gitea
On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 09:57:59 +1000
Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> This one turned out to be that someone (aka me) had mistakenly raised a
> blanket traffic blockage as a misdirected response to an apparent DoS
> effect via gitea accesses. Things should be better now, at least until I
> have
This one turned out to be that someone (aka me) had mistakenly raised a
blanket traffic blockage as a misdirected response to an apparent DoS
effect via gitea accesses. Things should be better now, at least until I
have another go at dealing with the same problem.
Ralph.
On Thu, 23 Sep 2021
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 14:54:54 +0200
tito via Dng wrote:
> Hi,
> is there any problem with devuan's gitea web interface?
> It loads so slowly that it is impossible to work with it.
> My connectivity seems ok as all other sites work as expected.
>
> Ciao,
> Tito
>
Hi,
just wanted to tell that the
On 2021-09-22 07:54, tito via Dng wrote:
Hi,
is there any problem with devuan's gitea web interface?
It loads so slowly that it is impossible to work with it.
My connectivity seems ok as all other sites work as expected.
Ciao,
Tito
It seems so! git was extremely sluggish last night when
Hi,
is there any problem with devuan's gitea web interface?
It loads so slowly that it is impossible to work with it.
My connectivity seems ok as all other sites work as expected.
Ciao,
Tito
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On Friday 20 August 2021 at 15:34:01, o1bigtenor wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:42 PM Antony Stone wrote:
> >
> > I didn't want to end up with Debian anyway - the only purpose was to be
> > able to install FreeSwitch, find out how much of it really depended on
> > systemd, and then work out
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:42 PM Antony Stone <
antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it> wrote:
> On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 18:53:51, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 01:52:12PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> > >
> > > I've purged eudev and now I'm installing FreeSwitch :)
> > >
> >
On 19/08/2021 17:29, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 13:22:06, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
>
>> Install "equivs" and build a dummy package.
>>
>> Nik
> Once again, thank you indeed for introducing me to this tool.
>
> One tip that I'll pass on in case other people here find it
On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 18:53:51, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 01:52:12PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> >
> > I've purged eudev and now I'm installing FreeSwitch :)
> >
> > Thanks for the pointer - looks like this will get me where I wanted to
> > be.
>
> Do I understand
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 01:52:12PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 13:42:28, Antony Stone wrote:
>
> > # dpkg -i systemd_250_all.deb
> > (Reading database ... 43385 files and directories currently installed.)
> > Preparing to unpack systemd_250_all.deb ...
> > Unpacking
On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 13:22:06, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Install "equivs" and build a dummy package.
>
> Nik
Once again, thank you indeed for introducing me to this tool.
One tip that I'll pass on in case other people here find it useful:
- unless the thing you want to install
On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 13:42:28, Antony Stone wrote:
> # dpkg -i systemd_250_all.deb
> (Reading database ... 43385 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to unpack systemd_250_all.deb ...
> Unpacking systemd (250) over (1.0) ...
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent
On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 13:27:22, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 13:22:06, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Anno domini 2021 Thu, 19 Aug 13:18:16 +0200 Antony Stone scripsit:
> > > freeswitch-systemd : Depends: systemd which is a virtual package and is
> > > not provided
On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 13:22:06, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2021 Thu, 19 Aug 13:18:16 +0200 Antony Stone scripsit:
>
> > freeswitch-systemd : Depends: systemd which is a virtual package and is
> > not provided by any available package
>
> Install "equivs" and build a dummy
Anno domini 2021 Thu, 19 Aug 13:18:16 +0200
Antony Stone scripsit:
> Hi.
>
> This may seem like a strange question, but has anyone tried "migrating" a
> machine from Devuan to Debian (ie: not the normal way round we discuss it
> here)?
>
> I have a need to play with FreeSwitch, and the
Hi.
This may seem like a strange question, but has anyone tried "migrating" a
machine from Devuan to Debian (ie: not the normal way round we discuss it
here)?
I have a need to play with FreeSwitch, and the package installer tells me:
freeswitch-systemd : Depends: systemd which is a virtual
On 2021-08-02 11:16, hal wrote:
>
> I've been running KVM/QEMU/Virt-Manager on Devuan for many years with
3-4 VMs and haven't had any issues directly related to Devuan. It's not
my intent to bash systemd but it's worth mentioning that I've had many
other issues with Debian based hypervisors
On 2021-07-31 10:25, yami...@cock.li wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I want to install a bare metal hypervisor in my computer to get the
> benefits from dual booting except without the mess that is dual booting.
>
> I'm going to use it for both linux and windows systems and all I want is
> for the vms and
On 7/30/21 20:25, yami...@cock.li wrote:
Currently I'm between Xen and Qemu, but I'm open to other options.
Which would be the best option in this case, and is this even a good idea?
I've been running KVM/QEMU/Virt-Manager on Devuan for many years with 3-4 VMs
and haven't had any issues
We have been virtualizing machines, servers and workstations, for over a
decade. First on Debian, then Devuan.
My personal workstation is Devuan, and I have Windows 7 & 10, FreeBSD,
Devuan, and CentOS available as virtuals that I spool up as needed.
On our servers, we mainly virtualize Devuan
I’ve been running a production system first on ascii, but upgraded to beowulf.
the only trouble I’ve had has been hardware and that was just a failed power
supply. i run the whole thing on kvm/libvirt. runs great. uptimes in the
100’s of days.
Your mileage may vary.
—Curtis
Sent from my
Hi.
I want to install a bare metal hypervisor in my computer to get the
benefits from dual booting except without the mess that is dual booting.
I'm going to use it for both linux and windows systems and all I want is
for the vms and their files to be isolated, control over their
resources,
Hi Tito,
tito via Dng writes:
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 13:57:54 -0400
> Linux O'Beardly via Dng wrote:
>
>> Has anyone attempted and/or had success at creating a WSL distribution from
>> a Devuan docker image? I started a new gig and am stuck with a Windows
>> laptop, but they will allow us to run
Harald and Nick - Thank you both for the responses.
On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 5:18 PM d...@d404.nl wrote:
> On 15-07-2021 23:02, Harald Arnesen via Dng wrote:
> > Linux O'Beardly via Dng [15.07.2021 19:57]:
> >
> >> Has anyone attempted and/or had success at creating a WSL distribution
> >> from
On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 13:57:54 -0400
Linux O'Beardly via Dng wrote:
> Has anyone attempted and/or had success at creating a WSL distribution from
> a Devuan docker image? I started a new gig and am stuck with a Windows
> laptop, but they will allow us to run WSL. Any info would be greatly
>
On 15-07-2021 23:02, Harald Arnesen via Dng wrote:
Linux O'Beardly via Dng [15.07.2021 19:57]:
Has anyone attempted and/or had success at creating a WSL distribution
from a Devuan docker image? I started a new gig and am stuck with a
Windows laptop, but they will allow us to run WSL. Any info
Linux O'Beardly via Dng [15.07.2021 19:57]:
> Has anyone attempted and/or had success at creating a WSL distribution
> from a Devuan docker image? I started a new gig and am stuck with a
> Windows laptop, but they will allow us to run WSL. Any info would be
> greatly appreciated.
Not from a
Has anyone attempted and/or had success at creating a WSL distribution from
a Devuan docker image? I started a new gig and am stuck with a Windows
laptop, but they will allow us to run WSL. Any info would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks,
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On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 +
g4sra via Dng wrote:
> Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ?
Devuan is Debian without systemd. Check with the Debian people.
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On Wed, May 26, 2021, 01:10 Antoine via Dng wrote:
> On Tuesday, 25 May at 14:01, Steve Litt wrote:
> >terryc said on Tue, 25 May 2021 08:35:12 +1000
> >
> >>On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 +
> >>g4sra
On Tuesday, 25 May at 14:01, Steve Litt wrote:
terryc said on Tue, 25 May 2021 08:35:12 +1000
On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 +
g4sra via Dng wrote:
I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware
performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporarily
knobbled
terryc said on Tue, 25 May 2021 08:35:12 +1000
>On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 +
>g4sra via Dng wrote:
>
>> I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware
>> performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporarily
>> knobbled the network until I find a more
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:42:37AM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Tuesday 25 May 2021 at 05:25:41, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 09:32:49PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> > >
> > > As for getting a standard GNU / Linux system onto eBook reader hardware,
> > > I would say:
> >
Some years ago there was a pretty decent Linux distribution for ebook
readers, called Open Inkpot. It was around 2010 and I'm almost certain that
it didn't include Systemd, nor any spyware.
The choice of hardware was pretty limited at that time, though.
On Mon, May 24, 2021, 23:25 g4sra via Dng
On Tuesday 25 May 2021 at 05:25:41, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 09:32:49PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> >
> > As for getting a standard GNU / Linux system onto eBook reader hardware,
> > I would say:
> >
> > a) very unlikely, given the storage capacity typically available
> >
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 09:32:49PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Monday 24 May 2021 at 21:25:16, g4sra via Dng wrote:
>
> > I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs
> > which is then sent to Chinese servers.
>
> Sorry, but what are you talking about?
>
> > I
On Tue, 25 May 2021 08:35:12 +1000, terryc wrote in message
<20210525083512.4f6a1...@dragonfly.woa.com.au>:
> On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 +
> g4sra via Dng wrote:
>
> > I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware
> > performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I
On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 +
g4sra via Dng wrote:
> I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware
> performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporarily
> knobbled the network until I find a more permanent solution.
>
>
> Has anyone attempted to put
On Monday 24 May 2021 at 21:25:16, g4sra via Dng wrote:
> I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs
> which is then sent to Chinese servers.
Sorry, but what are you talking about?
> I have temporarily knobbled the network until I find a more permanent
> solution.
I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs which
is then sent to Chinese servers.
I have temporarily knobbled the network until I find a more permanent solution.
Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ?
publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com -
Good article - one of the best and most even-handed summaries of the
systemd position that I've read.
One issue is that he oversimplifies the position re. gnome: he doesn't
make it clear that it's gnome 3 which has co-dependencies with systemd,
and that some of the desktop environments that he
On 2021-02-24 21:12, Roberto Scattini via Dng wrote:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 10:29 PM Nelson H. F. Beebe via Dng <
dng@lists.dyne.org> wrote:
Some of you may wish to look at this story on Google News today:
The Best Linux Distributions Without systemd
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 10:29 PM Nelson H. F. Beebe via Dng <
dng@lists.dyne.org> wrote:
> Some of you may wish to look at this story on Google News today:
>
> The Best Linux Distributions Without systemd
>
> https://www.howtogeek.com/713847/the-best-linux-distributions-without-systemd/
>
Some of you may wish to look at this story on Google News today:
The Best Linux Distributions Without systemd
https://www.howtogeek.com/713847/the-best-linux-distributions-without-systemd/
Devuan gets a whole section of the article, which notes
>> ...
>> Devuan was
Hendrik Boom - 18.02.21, 22:23:54 CET:
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 01:41:52PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng
wrote:
> > Nice, Devuan made it to the reputable german IT news at heise.de
> > (also home of the internet magazine 'telepolis') again:
> >
> > https://www.heise.de/-5057592
>
> Didn't get
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:23:54 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 01:41:52PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng
> wrote:
> > Nice, Devuan made it to the reputable german IT news at heise.de
> > (also home of the internet magazine 'telepolis') again:
> >
> >
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:23:54 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 01:41:52PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng
> wrote:
> > Nice, Devuan made it to the reputable german IT news at heise.de
> > (also home of the internet magazine 'telepolis') again:
> >
> >
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 01:41:52PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
> Nice, Devuan made it to the reputable german IT news at heise.de (also home
> of the internet magazine 'telepolis') again:
>
> https://www.heise.de/-5057592
Didn't get past the cookie warning. My German wasn't good
Am 18. Februar 2021 16:36:26 MEZ schrieb "Ludovic Bellière"
:
> Posivite review I presume?
Yes, positive but not 100% correct. Good journalism wants to get paid - and
damn, for a couple of well-considered reasons, I too use an adbocker... But as
usual, the "forists" helped out and the
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:36:26 +0100, Ludovic wrote in message
<20210218163626.557de...@aasterinian.home>:
>
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 13:41:52 +0100
> Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
>
> > Nice, Devuan made it to the reputable german IT news at heise.de
> > (also home of the internet magazine
Posivite review I presume?
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 13:41:52 +0100
Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
> Nice, Devuan made it to the reputable german IT news at heise.de
> (also home of the internet magazine 'telepolis') again:
>
> https://www.heise.de/-5057592
>
> libre Grüße,
> Florian
>
>
Nice, Devuan made it to the reputable german IT news at heise.de (also home of
the internet magazine 'telepolis') again:
https://www.heise.de/-5057592
libre Grüße,
Florian
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On 2/16/21 1:43 AM, spiralofhope wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 20:36:58 -0500
> fsmithred via Dng wrote:
>
>> Devuan Beowulf 3.1.0 point release
>
>
> However,
>
> devuan_beowulf_3.1.0_amd64_minimal-live.iso does NOT work with
> ventoy-1.0.35 (installed via Windows 10).
>
> I get:
>
>> No
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 20:36:58 -0500
fsmithred via Dng wrote:
> Devuan Beowulf 3.1.0 point release
Confirmed that devuan_beowulf_3.1.0_amd64_desktop-live.iso works with
ventoy-1.0.35 (installed via Windows 10). I highly recommend checking
out Ventoy.
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