[DNG] Devuan Beowulf 3.1.0 point release

2021-02-14 Thread fsmithred via Dng
Devuan Beowulf 3.1.0 point release Dear Init Freedom Lovers Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you on this day commemorating six years since the first Devuan pre-alpha Valentine's Day release in 2015! Devuan Beowulf 3.1.0 point release installer ISOs, desktop-live, and minimal-live isos

[DNG] [Devuan 3] [Chmod] [Lynis] Bonked default permissions

2021-02-01 Thread Se7en
I had run Lynis, a system-hardening auditor. At its suggestion, I changed numerous permissions system-wide. I have also changed conf files that alter book-time permissions. The following problems have occured: 1) Upon reboot, my /dev/snd is in a state that makes ALSA fail to recognize the audio

Re: [DNG] Devuan wallpaper licensing?

2021-01-27 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 1/27/21 10:43 PM, Bruce Perens via Dng wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:30 AM wrote: >> On 2021-01-27 12:51, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >>> Greetings, >>> >>> Which licenses are relevant for contributing wallpapers to the distro? >>> >>> Would CC BY-ND [1] be the most appropriate, for

Re: [DNG] Devuan wallpaper licensing?

2021-01-27 Thread Bruce Perens via Dng
Not a problem. Everyone should feel free to write me directly when they have questions. On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 1:14 PM wrote: > Thank you Bruce. You noticed how I sidestepped answering that question. > Sadly, the finer points of licensing has never sunk in despite the > informative

Re: [DNG] Devuan wallpaper licensing?

2021-01-27 Thread golinux
Thank you Bruce. You noticed how I sidestepped answering that question. Sadly, the finer points of licensing has never sunk in despite the informative interactions we've had with you over the years . . . golinux On 2021-01-27 14:43, Bruce Perens wrote: CC ND and CC BY NC ND would have to go

Re: [DNG] Devuan wallpaper licensing?

2021-01-27 Thread Bruce Perens via Dng
CC ND and CC BY NC ND would have to go in the non-free section. On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:30 AM wrote: > On 2021-01-27 12:51, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Which licenses are relevant for contributing wallpapers to the distro? > > > > Would CC BY-ND [1] be the most

Re: [DNG] Devuan wallpaper licensing?

2021-01-27 Thread golinux
On 2021-01-27 12:51, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: Greetings, Which licenses are relevant for contributing wallpapers to the distro? Would CC BY-ND [1] be the most appropriate, for photos? What about CC BY-NC-ND [2] or is there an established license already chosen? /Lars [1]

[DNG] Devuan wallpaper licensing?

2021-01-27 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
Greetings, Which licenses are relevant for contributing wallpapers to the distro? Would CC BY-ND [1] be the most appropriate, for photos? What about CC BY-NC-ND [2] or is there an established license already chosen? /Lars [1] https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/ [2]

Re: [DNG] DeVuan deleted partitons table.

2021-01-08 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 21:48:31 +0700 А. Сорокин via Dng wrote: > Hello. > > > I had a very stange behaviour of DeVuan ssytem. -- I had MBR 3 TB HDD > that worked well on old system with DDR RAM, LiLo booted the system. > Then i moved the HDD to a bit newer system, with DDR2 RAM on the > board.

Re: [DNG] DeVuan deleted partitons table.

2021-01-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 08 January 2021 at 15:48:31, А. Сорокин via Dng wrote: > I had a very stange behaviour of DeVuan ssytem. -- I had MBR 3 TB HDD > that worked well on old system with DDR RAM, LiLo booted the system. LiLo!? Wow. > Then i moved the HDD to a bit newer system, Still a pure Bios

[DNG] DeVuan deleted partitons table.

2021-01-08 Thread А . Сорокин via Dng
Hello. I had a very stange behaviour of DeVuan ssytem. -- I had MBR 3 TB HDD that worked well on old system with DDR RAM, LiLo booted the system. Then i moved the HDD to a bit newer system, with DDR2 RAM on the board. There system did boot, work well. Then, after normal shutdown, when i turned

Re: [DNG] devuan and debootstrap

2020-12-05 Thread aitor
On 12/5/20 8:33 PM, aitor wrote: Hi again Haines, On 12/5/20 6:32 PM, aitor wrote: Hi, On 12/5/20 12:52 PM, Haines Brown wrote: I was going to install default Beowulf (Beowult 3.0 ?) but is there any way I can use deboostrap to access Beowulf 3.1 directly to install it? If you need to

Re: [DNG] devuan and debootstrap

2020-12-05 Thread aitor
On 12/5/20 8:33 PM, aitor wrote: "service stop/restart snetaid" service snetaid stop/restart, i mean :) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] devuan and debootstrap

2020-12-05 Thread aitor
Hi again Haines, On 12/5/20 6:32 PM, aitor wrote: Hi, On 12/5/20 12:52 PM, Haines Brown wrote: I was going to install default Beowulf (Beowult 3.0 ?) but is there any way I can use deboostrap to access Beowulf 3.1 directly to install it? If you need to specify several mirrors -this seems to

Re: [DNG] devuan and debootstrap

2020-12-05 Thread aitor
Hi, On 12/5/20 12:52 PM, Haines Brown wrote: I was going to install default Beowulf (Beowult 3.0 ?) but is there any way I can use deboostrap to access Beowulf 3.1 directly to install it? If you need to specify several mirrors -this seems to be the case considering the addition of

Re: [DNG] devuan and debootstrap

2020-12-05 Thread Haines Brown
On Sat, Dec 05, 2020 at 01:25:07PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > On Saturday 05 December 2020 at 12:52:27, Haines Brown wrote: > > > I wanted to do a cross install of Beowulf 3.1 on a spare disk to test > > it. Howver, deboostrap does not seem to be in the devuan > > repository. > > Huh? > > #

Re: [DNG] devuan and debootstrap

2020-12-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 05 December 2020 at 12:52:27, Haines Brown wrote: > I wanted to do a cross install of Beowulf 3.1 on a spare disk to test > it. Howver, deboostrap does not seem to be in the devuan > repository. Huh? # aptitude show debootstrap Package: debootstrap Version:

[DNG] devuan and debootstrap

2020-12-05 Thread Haines Brown
I wanted to do a cross install of Beowulf 3.1 on a spare disk to test it. Howver, deboostrap does not seem to be in the devuan repository. Any reason for this? Any reason I should not steal it from the Debian repository and install it locally? I was going to install default Beowulf (Beowult

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-30 Thread Radisson97
: goli...@devuan.org > An: dng@lists.dyne.org > Betreff: Re: [DNG] devuan ? > > On 2020-10-29 15:24, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: > >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2020 um 20:31 Uhr > >> Von: "Antony Stone" > >> An: dng@lists.dyne.org > >> Betreff

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 20:31:22, Antony Stone wrote: > On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 19:31:10, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: > > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] > > Err:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 linux-libc-dev > > amd64 4.19.118-2 404 Not Found [IP: 130.225.254.116 80]

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-29 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
...@gmx.de wrote on 30/10/20 7:24 am: >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2020 um 20:31 Uhr >> Von: "Antony Stone" >> An: dng@lists.dyne.org >> Betreff: Re: [DNG] devuan ? >> >> On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 19:31:10, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: >&g

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-29 Thread golinux
On 2020-10-29 15:24, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2020 um 20:31 Uhr Von: "Antony Stone" An: dng@lists.dyne.org Betreff: Re: [DNG] devuan ? On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 19:31:10, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: > Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-29 Thread Radisson97
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2020 um 20:31 Uhr > Von: "Antony Stone" > An: dng@lists.dyne.org > Betreff: Re: [DNG] devuan ? > > On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 19:31:10, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] > > Err:1 http

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-29 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 19:31:10, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] > Err:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 linux-libc-dev amd64 > 4.19.118-2 404 Not Found [IP: 130.225.254.116 80] > Unable to correct missing packages. > E: Failed to fetch >

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 29/10/2020 18:31, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: > The problem is a bit weired: > > I did install Beowulf 3.0 had some problems nothing i could not fix, > then i tried to install gcc via apt-get install gcc > > > > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] > Err:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-29 Thread Radisson97
t; Von: "Antony Stone" > An: dng@lists.dyne.org > Betreff: Re: [DNG] devuan ? > > On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 15:55:22, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > i am new on this list and in search for a place to > > ask for a wired problem with

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-29 Thread Ludovic Bellière
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Yes. Le Thu, 29 Oct 2020 15:55:22 +0100, radisso...@gmx.de a écrit : > Hi everyone, > i am new on this list and in search for a place to > ask for a wired problem with a devuan installation. > >

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-29 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 15:55:22, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi everyone, > i am new on this list and in search for a place to > ask for a wired problem with a devuan installation. > > Is this the place for that kind of questions ? Yes. Did you really mean a wired problem, or is it a

[DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-29 Thread Radisson97
Hi everyone, i am new on this list and in search for a place to ask for a wired problem with a devuan installation. Is this the place for that kind of questions ? re ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-10-01 Thread Peter Duffy
On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 11:31 +0200, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > On Tue 29/Sep/2020 11:10:12 +0200 Simon Hobson wrote: > > Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > > > >>> I have no choice over the neighbours ! > > > >> Don't buy overly cheap connections... > > > > Doesn't matter how much you

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-10-01 Thread Alessandro Vesely via Dng
On Tue 29/Sep/2020 11:10:12 +0200 Simon Hobson wrote: Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: I have no choice over the neighbours ! Don't buy overly cheap connections... Doesn't matter how much you pay - unless you get an entire net-block to yourself then you have no control over the

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-29 Thread Simon Hobson
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: >> I have no choice over the neighbours ! > Don't buy overly cheap connections... Doesn't matter how much you pay - unless you get an entire net-block to yourself then you have no control over the neighbours. Only the ISP has control over the neighbours. >

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-28 Thread Alessandro Vesely via Dng
On Sun 27/Sep/2020 20:11:39 +0200 Simon Hobson wrote: Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: [...] And it is key to get an IP address without poorly reputed neighbors —check talosintelligence.com. I have no choice over the neighbours ! Don't buy overly cheap connections... I also use lack

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-28 Thread Simon Hobson
Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> You mean, like in the web hosting days before hostname headers where >> you needed a different IP address for each hosted domain name ? That's >> very 20th century and not a luxury most of us have. > > FWIW, Linode (where my sole server is hosted) gives me a /64 IPv6

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-09-27 19:11, Simon Hobson wrote: > You mean, like in the web hosting days before hostname headers where > you needed a different IP address for each hosted domain name ? That's > very 20th century and not a luxury most of us have. FWIW, Linode (where my sole server is hosted) gives me a

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-27 Thread Simon Hobson
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: >> IIRC the specific complaint wasn't that they checked for rDNS, but that they >> matched it against the domain of the sender. That makes no sense at all, it >> prevents running more than one domain on one mail server. > Why would it? A configurable mail

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-27 Thread Alessandro Vesely via Dng
On Sat 26/Sep/2020 23:19:33 +0200 Simon Hobson wrote: Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: I also end up rejecting a lot of spam because it lacks a reverse hostname (it's easily the largest category). So it's not just a few such as ntlworld and gmx that check this. IIRC the specific complaint

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-26 Thread Simon Hobson
Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > I also end up rejecting a lot of spam because it lacks a reverse hostname > (it's easily the largest category). > So it's not just a few such as ntlworld and gmx that check this. IIRC the specific complaint wasn't that they checked for rDNS, but that they

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-25 Thread Mark Rousell
On 25/09/2020 18:21, DECbot wrote: > > I had to double check my config. I never got around to forward > outgoing mail through my ssh tunnel. I'm still using the postfix > relayhost parameter to granting me my ISP's blessing to smtp out to > the rest of the world--and likely giving them a copy of

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-09-24 12:07, Rick Moen wrote: > I've had no problems _without_ DMARC/DKIM (but with a strongly > asserted SPF record). Have been operating home *ix SMTP smarthosts on > static IP with matching rDNS, and maintaining a clean, high-reputation > system since the 1980s. > > I've tried to

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-25 Thread DECbot
On September 24, 2020 5:52:20 AM Mark Rousell wrote: On 23/09/2020 02:32, DECbot wrote: Since my ISP is the devil and blocks port 25, I'm using autossh to forward port 25 traffic to a $5/month vps. Do you have difficulty with your outgoing SMTP being blocked (often silently swallowed, from

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-25 Thread Mark Rousell
On 24/09/2020 20:07, Rick Moen wrote: > > DMARC can be made to be a non-issue. ;-> > > :r! dig -t txt _dmarc.linuxmafia.com +short > "DMARC: tragically misdesigned since 2012. Check our SPF RR, instead." > Basically, in my experience, some operators may be assigning a _very small_ > spamicity

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Mark Rousell (mark.rous...@signal100.com): > Option 1 is a bit embarrassing if anyone notices (e.g. > "host-46462.static.bugtown.myisp.net" isn't too cool as the name of your > mail server) but I don't see any technical downside, although DMARC > might perhaps be an issue nowadays. DMARC

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Marjorie Roome via Dng
On Thu, 2020-09-24 at 17:32 +0100, Mark Rousell wrote: > On 24/09/2020 13:43, Jim Jackson wrote: > > > > > Mostly. Somemail servers do a reverse IP lookup and see if it > > matches your envelope From domain. > > > > Yes, this is an annoyance. There are two ways

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Mark Rousell
On 24/09/2020 13:43, Jim Jackson wrote: > Mostly. Somemail servers do a reverse IP lookup and see if it matches your > envelope From domain. Yes, this is an annoyance. There are two ways round this: (1) Change your server's SMTP From domain to be the same as your static IP's PTR hostname, and

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 24-09-2020 14:43, Jim Jackson wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2020, Mark Rousell wrote: > >> On 24/09/2020 07:30, Dimitris via Dng wrote: >>> in my opinion a home connection server smtp+imap/pop will not be very >>> usable. most rbl's block dynamic addresses so you won't be able to >>> deliver much...

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Jim Jackson
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020, Mark Rousell wrote: > On 24/09/2020 07:30, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > > > in my opinion a home connection server smtp+imap/pop will not be very > > usable. most rbl's block dynamic addresses so you won't be able to > > deliver much... > > In some areas (e.g. the UK), the

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Mike Tubby
On 24/09/2020 11:14, Mark Rousell wrote: On 24/09/2020 07:30, Dimitris via Dng wrote: in my opinion a home connection server smtp+imap/pop will not be very usable. most rbl's block dynamic addresses so you won't be able to deliver much... In some areas (e.g. the UK), the better ISPs

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Mark Rousell
On 24/09/2020 07:30, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > in my opinion a home connection server smtp+imap/pop will not be very > usable. most rbl's block dynamic addresses so you won't be able to > deliver much... In some areas (e.g. the UK), the better ISPs provide static IPs so this issue is bypassed.

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Mark Rousell
On 23/09/2020 02:32, DECbot wrote: > Since my ISP is the devil and blocks port 25, I'm using autossh to > forward port 25 traffic to a $5/month vps. Do you have difficulty with your outgoing SMTP being blocked (often silently swallowed, from what I've seen) to certain large mail services using

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 9/23/20 11:05 PM, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > 1) a more restrictive postfix main.cf than in the guide, so less spam > gets through to rspamd: postfix rejected about 37% of emails last > month, rspamd about 7% with another 5% going to to users spam folders > and is thus reviewable by them.

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 9/20/20 12:55 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > Easiest possible newbie email server setup, use and support, ideas? in my opinion a home connection server smtp+imap/pop will not be very usable. most rbl's block dynamic addresses so you won't be able to deliver much... i'd suggest a host/vps online

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-23 Thread Marjorie Roome via Dng
Hi Arnt, On Sat, 2020-09-19 at 23:55 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..devuan to the rescue? Norwegian ISP "Get" is ditching their email > service and pointing their clients to a paid service, which again is > pointing them to Gmail's ad laden services, drawing due scorn. [1] > > > ..since we can

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-23 Thread DECbot
Hi, I run a mail server for myself on a small pc (32-bit, 7 watt Via C7 Eden cpu) running Devuan. It was originally built on Debian Wheezy back in 2012 following the wheezy guide found at https://workaround.org/ispmail/wheezy/. After the updates for wheezy trailed off, I followed the

[DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hi, ..devuan to the rescue? Norwegian ISP "Get" is ditching their email service and pointing their clients to a paid service, which again is pointing them to Gmail's ad laden services, drawing due scorn. [1] ..since we can do better, I'm thinking "Devuan Email Server Flavor" sort of distro

Re: [DNG] Devuan Made The List

2020-09-16 Thread Ludovic Bellière
Well I'm the best at making farts, if that count for anything. On 16/09/20 20:38, Antony Stone wrote: > "Best" and "worst" are horribly subjective terms, and if you read the wording > at the top of that article, you'll see that they confuse "best" with "most > popular". signature.asc

Re: [DNG] Devuan Made The List

2020-09-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 11:26:20 -0700 tom wrote: > Ubuntu is second on their best list? More like second worst Linux > distro still in active development. Ubuntu provides the very real need of providing training wheels to the new user of Linux. Also, its hardware recognition is legendary. It's a

Re: [DNG] Devuan Made The List

2020-09-16 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 16 September 2020 at 20:26:20, tom wrote: > > On 2020-09-15 14:02, Linux O'Beardly via Dng wrote: > > > 10 Best Debian-Based Linux Distributions > > > > > > https://www.tecmint.com/debian-based-linux-distributions/ > > Ubuntu is second on their best list? More like second worst

Re: [DNG] Devuan Made The List

2020-09-16 Thread tom
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 14:56:55 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2020-09-15 14:02, Linux O'Beardly via Dng wrote: > > 10 Best Debian-Based Linux Distributions > > > > https://www.tecmint.com/debian-based-linux-distributions/ > > > > > > Promoting Beowulf with a screenshot of the Jessie

Re: [DNG] Devuan Made The List

2020-09-15 Thread golinux
On 2020-09-15 14:02, Linux O'Beardly via Dng wrote: 10 Best Debian-Based Linux Distributions https://www.tecmint.com/debian-based-linux-distributions/ Promoting Beowulf with a screenshot of the Jessie desktop. Get it together tecmint . . . ___

[DNG] Devuan Made The List

2020-09-15 Thread Linux O'Beardly via Dng
10 Best Debian-Based Linux Distributions https://www.tecmint.com/debian-based-linux-distributions/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3.0 Orca Problem

2020-07-24 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 07:04:25PM -0700, David Hoff Jr wrote: > I have install Beowulf to a 32 bit Acer netbook using the text > >installer with speech. I have speech in the text console but no speech > >with Orca in the GUI desktop including the login screen. In the GUI > >Desktop terminal I can

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3.0 Orca Problem

2020-07-24 Thread Steve Litt
Yes, I thought you were behaving like a jerk *UNTIL* I saw the volume and content of the ad. The ad included something with American politics, which is just sooo inappropriate for an international technical list. Nothing jerky about objecting to *that particular* ad. SteveT On Fri, 24 Jul

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3.0 Orca Problem

2020-07-24 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
Sorry if I sounded like a jerk, I don't intend to be one. Advertisements just tend to irritate me, like nails on a chalkboard. On Fri, 2020-07-24 at 09:08 -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > It is possible to opt out of that on Juno. You'll have to dig down > to > find it though and every so

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3.0 Orca Problem

2020-07-24 Thread golinux
It is possible to opt out of that on Juno. You'll have to dig down to find it though and every so often, they will try to turn it back on. Very sneaky . . . On 2020-07-24 08:21, Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: Sorry I don't have anything helpful regarding orca, but that looks like an

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3.0 Orca Problem

2020-07-24 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
Sorry I don't have anything helpful regarding orca, but that looks like an advertisement in your signature. Are advertisements in signatures allowed in this list? I think advertisements of any sort should be banned from this list. I don't read (and occasionally participate on) this list to be

[DNG] Devuan 3.0 Orca Problem

2020-07-23 Thread David Hoff Jr
I have install Beowulf to a 32 bit Acer netbook using the text installer with speech. I have speech in the text console but no speech with Orca in the GUI desktop including the login screen. In the GUI Desktop terminal I can bring up the Orca preferences with Orca -r -s and find that in the

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie End of Life (EOL) archiving

2020-07-12 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:52:12 +0200 richard lucassen via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 05:58:11 -0300 > pekman wrote: > > > Slitaz is very good Linux distribution for old computers. See > > slitaz.org > > The latest "news" is from 20 May 2015: > > http://slitaz.org/en/news/ In its

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie End of Life (EOL) archiving

2020-07-12 Thread richard lucassen via Dng
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 05:58:11 -0300 pekman wrote: > Slitaz is very good Linux distribution for old computers. See > slitaz.org The latest "news" is from 20 May 2015: http://slitaz.org/en/news/ -- richard lucassen https://contact.xaq.nl/ ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie End of Life (EOL) archiving

2020-07-12 Thread pekman
Em Wed, 1 Jul 2020 16:53:19 +0200 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" escreveu: > It's been a long journey - may it rest in peace. > > A word of condolence to anybody fixed on old hardware. If you cannot > upgrade, there is still the BSD-family which offer support down to > 80486. And they, too, are

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie End of Life (EOL) archiving

2020-07-01 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
It's been a long journey - may it rest in peace. A word of condolence to anybody fixed on old hardware. If you cannot upgrade, there is still the BSD-family which offer support down to 80486. And they, too, are systemd-free :) https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/i386.html

[DNG] Devuan Jessie End of Life (EOL) archiving

2020-07-01 Thread Mark Hindley
Friends, On 30th June 2020, Debian was scheduled to end its Long Term Support (LTS) for Debian 8 ('Jessie')[1]. As a result, the Devuan Project will be archiving its first release, codename Jessie. Since Jessie will receive no further maintenance or updates (including security fixes), it will be

Re: [DNG] Devuan success report - Old Toshiba

2020-06-25 Thread Stephane Ascoet via Dng
Le 11/05/2020 à 00:59, Riccardo Mottola wrote : I have an old Toshiba Satellite laptop, with a wonderful soft touch keyboard, PS/2 Port, Serial console... very readable screen (althoug 800x600!) which always had Debian which I kept upgrading and upgrading. It became less and less usable...

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-15 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 6/15/20 3:37 AM, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 02:30:39PM +0200, d...@d404.nl wrote: >> Which is still quiet high. I would advise to renew the thermal paste on >> your processor. I can recommend Arctic Silver 5 AS5-3.5G Thermal Paste. >> Made a difference of another 20°C on

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 02:30:39PM +0200, d...@d404.nl wrote: > Which is still quiet high. I would advise to renew the thermal paste on > your processor. I can recommend Arctic Silver 5 AS5-3.5G Thermal Paste. > Made a difference of another 20°C on idle on my old i5. If the system ran cool before

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 14-06-2020 14:14, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > On 6/14/20 2:03 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: >> On 14-06-2020 12:53, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >>> On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 6/14/20 2:03 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: > On 14-06-2020 12:53, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >> On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: >>> On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice that the fans are always running.

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 14-06-2020 12:53, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: >> On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >>> An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice >>> that the fans are always running. Although the air temperature is about >>>

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: > On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >> An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice >> that the fans are always running. Although the air temperature is about >> 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary,

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice > that the fans are always running. Although the air temperature is about > 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or > hotter. The system is not

[DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice that the fans are always running. Although the air temperature is about 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or hotter. The system is not really under any load. What should I be looking at to

[DNG] Devuan Git Migration

2020-06-12 Thread Mark Hindley
Friends, The Devuan project is changing its git repository manager from GitLab to Gitea[1]. The main motivation for this change is to avoid the excessive server resource consumption of the GitLab instance. It has also become increasingly difficult to incorporate necessary security fixes without

Re: [DNG] Devuan Beowulf fresh install - feedbacks

2020-06-06 Thread deadbrain
THanks for the reply It was a mistake of mine... Dropped all related packages, reinstalled them and got docker running. Sorry for any annoyance... Regards On 6/6/20 7:55 AM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: On 6 Jun 2020, at 13:27, deadbrain wrote: My current problem is with

Re: [DNG] Devuan Beowulf fresh install - feedbacks

2020-06-05 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 6 Jun 2020, at 13:27, deadbrain wrote: > > My current problem is with docker.io, the rc dependency is too old and docker > is not functional... > > Do you have plans to upgrade this version? > > Kind regards > > Jerome I’ve had docker running on Beowulf for a while now. Use the

[DNG] Devuan Beowulf fresh install - feedbacks

2020-06-05 Thread deadbrain
Hi all, first of all, congrats to the dev team for this new release. I tested it inside a VM and everything worked smoothly no problem... I installled on my laptop and I faced a couple of problems: - during install I was unable to install mate desktop from the huge ISO , bad checksum for

Re: [DNG] Devuan Beowulf 3.0.0 released.

2020-06-04 Thread Joel Roth via Dng
On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 06:30:50PM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote: > Dear Friends and Software Freedom Lovers, > >Devuan Developers are delighted to announce the release of Devuan Beowulf >3.0.0 as the project's new stable release. This is the result of many > months >of painstaking work

Re: [DNG] Devuan Beowulf 3.0.0 released.

2020-06-03 Thread Mark Hindley
On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 10:56:50AM +0200, Dario Niedermann wrote: > Il 02/06/2020 alle 19:30, Mark Hindley ha scritto: > > > Devuan Developers are delighted to announce the release of Devuan > > Beowulf 3.0.0 as the project's new stable release. [...] > > Hi! Couple of questions whose answers I

Re: [DNG] Devuan Beowulf 3.0.0 released.

2020-06-03 Thread Dario Niedermann
Il 02/06/2020 alle 19:30, Mark Hindley ha scritto: Devuan Developers are delighted to announce the release of Devuan Beowulf 3.0.0 as the project's new stable release. [...] Hi! Couple of questions whose answers I couldn't find on Devuan's website: * is there a full list of packages I can

[DNG] Devuan Beowulf 3.0.0 released.

2020-06-02 Thread Mark Hindley
Dear Friends and Software Freedom Lovers, Devuan Developers are delighted to announce the release of Devuan Beowulf 3.0.0 as the project's new stable release. This is the result of many months of painstaking work by the Team and detailed testing by the wider Devuan community. What's

Re: [DNG] Devuan success report - Old Toshiba

2020-05-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, Antony Stone wrote: I'm assuming that you're saying that things got noticeably worse when you "upgraded" from Debian 7 Wheezy to Debian 8 Jessie (with the introduction of systemd), but is that correct? Yes. But things got even worse with Debian 9. I'm intrigued as to how "like for

Re: [DNG] Devuan success report - Old Toshiba

2020-05-10 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 11 May 2020 at 00:31:30, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > Hi all! > > I want to cheer up and write thanks with a small success story of > Devuan and comparison to Debian. Nice :) > I have an old Toshiba Satellite laptop, with a wonderful soft touch > keyboard, PS/2 Port, Serial

[DNG] Devuan success report - Old Toshiba

2020-05-10 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi all! I want to cheer up and write thanks with a small success story of Devuan and comparison to Debian. I have an old Toshiba Satellite laptop, with a wonderful soft touch keyboard, PS/2 Port, Serial console... very readable screen (althoug 800x600!) which always had Debian which I kept

Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-27 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 26/04/2020 21:13, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 4/26/20 6:54 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> Apt refused to acknowledge that the package even existed. > > 1) > # wget > http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb > > # dpkg -i

Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-26 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 4/26/20 6:54 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: > Apt refused to acknowledge that the package even existed. 1) # wget http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb # dpkg -i devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb or 2) # apt-key adv --keyserver

Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-26 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 26/04/2020 15:09, Antony Stone wrote: > On Sunday 26 April 2020 at 16:02:00, g4sra via Dng wrote: > >> On 26/04/2020 12:31, Mike Tubby wrote: >>> Try this: >>> >>> https://devuan.org/os/keyring/ >> >> Wrong key 0x94532124541922FB, require 0xBB23C00C61FC752C... > > 0x94532124541922FB was

Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-26 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 26 April 2020 at 16:02:00, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 26/04/2020 12:31, Mike Tubby wrote: > > Try this: > > > > https://devuan.org/os/keyring/ > > Wrong key 0x94532124541922FB, require 0xBB23C00C61FC752C... 0x94532124541922FB was created in 2014, and 0xBB23C00C61FC752C was created in

Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-26 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 26/04/2020 12:31, Mike Tubby wrote: > Try this: > > https://devuan.org/os/keyring/ Wrong key 0x94532124541922FB, require 0xBB23C00C61FC752C... Are you suggesting the website is out of date ? I want to know where I was *supposed* to get this key from (I know where I *did* get it from ;) > >

Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-26 Thread Mike Tubby
Try this: https://devuan.org/os/keyring/ On 26/04/2020 12:15, g4sra via Dng wrote: Just had an issue migrating to Devuan Beowulf. Where was I *supposed* to obtain the devuan-keyring from to authenticate the repository ? ___ Dng mailing list

[DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-26 Thread g4sra via Dng
Just had an issue migrating to Devuan Beowulf. Where was I *supposed* to obtain the devuan-keyring from to authenticate the repository ? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Devuan-bugs Web Archives

2020-04-12 Thread Mike via Dng
Hi, https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devuan-bugs points to https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/devuan-bugs.en.html which says | No such list (devuan-bugs): | The specified mailing list is not available in this archive. Cheers ___

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