Re: [DNG] new behaviour of /dev

2017-08-23 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Renaud OLGIATI (ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org): > 'solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short' come to mind The long-lamented ntk.net ('Need to Know') newsletter carried a cheeky subhead declaring itself 'nasty, British, and short'. All readers of Hobbes cheered.

Re: [DNG] new behaviour of /dev

2017-08-23 Thread Ron
On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 17:48:02 +0200 Alessandro Selli wrote: > >> People were happy even before the steam engine was invented. > > 'solitary, > Do you think so? > > poor, > It depends; when the wealthiest individuals where those who could afford a >

Re: [DNG] new behaviour of /dev

2017-08-23 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 at 05:22:20 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 09:24:28 +0200 > Alessandro Selli wrote: > >>> I really don't know why so many people think hotplugging is a major >>> need, anyway. I happily

Re: [DNG] new behaviour of /dev

2017-08-23 Thread Ron
On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 09:24:28 +0200 Alessandro Selli wrote: > > I really don't know why so many people think hotplugging is a major > > need, anyway. I happily used Linux for a very long time before it > > existed. > People were happy even before the steam engine

Re: [DNG] new behaviour of /dev

2017-08-23 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 22/08/2017 at 15:22, Rick Moen wrote: > I really don't know why so many people think hotplugging is a major > need, anyway. I happily used Linux for a very long time before it > existed. People were happy even before the steam engine was invented. Alessandro

Re: [DNG] new behaviour of /dev

2017-08-22 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr): > This is the result of enabling devtmpfs when building the > kernel. Devtmpfs was implemented a few years ago and is, in my > opinion, a reaction to the bad behaviour of Udev developers. Plausible. > For the same reason (explicitly), the kernel now loads

Re: [DNG] new behaviour of /dev

2017-08-22 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 22/08/2017 à 01:27, Adam Borowski a écrit : Hi! Do you remember when for decades we had to populate /dev using mknod (using makedev or something) -- both on Linux and on Unices that predated it? Then when udev came to make device creation dynamic. I just installed a new server, not using

[DNG] new behaviour of /dev

2017-08-21 Thread Adam Borowski
Hi! Do you remember when for decades we had to populate /dev using mknod (using makedev or something) -- both on Linux and on Unices that predated it? Then when udev came to make device creation dynamic. I just installed a new server, not using d-i but manual debootstrap. Not even regular