On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 12:19:51PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 07:16:55PM -0700, Isaac Dunham wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 04:54:53PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote:
On 27/05/2015 12:12, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I'm in the process of writing (yet) a(nother) editor and
Le 31/05/2015 22:34, Laurent Bercot a écrit :
On 31/05/2015 18:35, Didier Kryn wrote:
AFAIU, this thread has turned to be about interfacing whatever app to
a scripting language. I consider this a very usefull feature for all
but basic applications. In particular, I consider that interfacing
On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 11:25:03 +0200
Didier Kryn k...@in2p3.fr wrote:
Laurent,
I know the argument that init should be kept small to be
rock-solid. Does it mean that it must be written in C and not in Lua
or Ash?
Yes. In my opinion it does. Init must be tiny, and it must be rock
Le 01/06/2015 12:59, Laurent Bercot a écrit :
Oh, sure - I'm all for learning by experimenting and hacking away.
It's just that this mailing-list is about a distribution that aims
to be Debian-sized, so I thought you were suggesting it for Devuan.
I think you'll agree that on a distribution,
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 01:54:50PM +, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
If I may... If you google me you will find old old reasons to hate
me, and those reasons are connected to GUIs. I do know one or two
thinks about the subject.
It is possible to make a good GUI that is separated from its
AFAIU, this thread has turned to be about interfacing whatever app
to a scripting language. I consider this a very usefull feature for all
but basic applications. In particular, I consider that interfacing init
- The init program which is pid 1 - with a scripting language would
provide
On Sun, 31 May 2015 08:51:58 -0400
Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:58:55PM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote:
(II) Lua
Lua is also popular as a scripting language. I believe it was
*designed* as a scripting language.
I already mentioned that I'd prefer each
On 31/05/2015 18:35, Didier Kryn wrote:
AFAIU, this thread has turned to be about interfacing whatever app to
a scripting language. I consider this a very usefull feature for all
but basic applications. In particular, I consider that interfacing
init - The init program which is pid 1 - with a
On 05/31/2015 05:01 AM, Jude Nelson wrote:
Hi Jonathan,
Yes I know, I was trolling. But it was a friendly troll. See, I
included a hash at the end of my email. Here is my
Proof-of-Troll(tm) that matches that hash:
echo Sorry but I couldn't resist trolling you here. :) Still
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 07:16:55PM -0700, Isaac Dunham wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 04:54:53PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote:
On 27/05/2015 12:12, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I'm in the process of writing (yet) a(nother) editor and output formatter,
and on reading this, I started to wonder -- just
Am Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015, 23:58:55 schrieb Jude Nelson:
Just imagine the possibilities if Powerpoint gave you access to an
environment like that!
It didn't occur to me when I wrote my original email, but it turns out
Powerpoint can be scripted with VBA. So can Libreoffice (it supports
Hi Jonathan,
Yes I know, I was trolling. But it was a friendly troll. See, I included
a hash at the end of my email. Here is my Proof-of-Troll(tm) that matches
that hash:
echo Sorry but I couldn't resist trolling you here. :) Still intrigued by
your file-system based widget idea,
If I may... If you google me you will find old old reasons to hate me,
and those reasons are connected to GUIs. I do know one or two thinks
about the subject.
It is possible to make a good GUI that is separated
from its functionality in the manner many contributors to this thread
are
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:58:55PM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote:
Hi Jonathan,
Shell-based command access to software like Powerpoint would indeed be
great. But I wonder if we can raise the bar a bit
and consider an approach that could serve the largest audience.
Especially users who
On 05/28/2015 11:58 PM, Jude Nelson wrote:
Hi Jonathan,
Shell-based command access to software like Powerpoint would
indeed be great. But I wonder if we can raise the bar a bit
and consider an approach that could serve the largest audience.
Especially users who themselves
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 04:54:53PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote:
On 27/05/2015 12:12, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I'm in the process of writing (yet) a(nother) editor and output formatter,
and on reading this, I started to wonder -- just how could one separate
a command-line version from the UI? I can
Hi Jonathan,
Shell-based command access to software like Powerpoint would indeed be
great. But I wonder if we can raise the bar a bit
and consider an approach that could serve the largest audience.
Especially users who themselves aren't developers or
programmers.
It seems to me such a
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 03:32:00PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote:
As a rule of thumb, developers should always use the smallest possible
amount of dependencies for a project, and clearly separate layers - e.g.
if a project comes with an engine and a GUI, then the engine should come
as a
Hi Hendrik,
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:12 AM, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com
wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 03:32:00PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote:
As a rule of thumb, developers should always use the smallest possible
amount of dependencies for a project, and clearly separate layers
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 06:12:15AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 03:32:00PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote:
As a rule of thumb, developers should always use the smallest possible
amount of dependencies for a project, and clearly separate layers - e.g.
if a project comes
On 27/05/2015 12:12, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I'm in the process of writing (yet) a(nother) editor and output formatter,
and on reading this, I started to wonder -- just how could one separate
a command-line version from the UI? I can see that the output
formatter can be so separated (and very
Hi, Hendrik.
Your post reminds me of a chapter in The Art of Unix Programming, by
Eric Steven Raymond, which I always recommend.
http://catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/
El 2015-05-27 06:12, Hendrik Boom escribió:
...
I am testing the limits of the advice to separate interaction from
command
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 04:54:53PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote:
On 27/05/2015 12:12, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I'm in the process of writing (yet) a(nother) editor and output formatter,
and on reading this, I started to wonder -- just how could one separate
a command-line version from the UI? I can
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 02:27:17PM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote:
Hi Hendrik,
... (much snipped) (I'm sorry, I hadn't meant to take you away from
vdev for the amount of time it took to write this lengthy and
interesting reply)
An interesting consequence of structuring applications this way
On Wed, 27 May 2015 14:27:17 -0400
Jude Nelson jud...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been thinking about the general form of this problem (and a
general solution) for months, and I think I'm almost ready to provide
a formal design document.
[The Problem]
Many programs couple the business logic to
On 05/27/2015 02:27 PM, Jude Nelson wrote:
Hi Hendrik,
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:12 AM, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com
mailto:hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 03:32:00PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote:
As a rule of thumb, developers should always use the
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