On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:19:03 +
Stephanie Daugherty sdaughe...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, Stephanie! =)
They did, but out of all this design by committee, hidden between all
the political bullshit and bikeshedding, they also created the most
brilliant, most comprehensive set of standards for
On Sat, 8/15/15, Simon Hobson li...@thehobsons.co.uk wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan and upstream
To: dng@lists.dyne.org dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Saturday, August 15, 2015, 3:53 PM
Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
THe way I heard
Stephanie Daugherty sdaughe...@gmail.com wrote:
They did, but out of all this design by committee, hidden between all the
political bullshit and bikeshedding, they also created the most brilliant,
most comprehensive set of standards for quality control, package uniformity,
license
The lack of the last two: multiple versions and shell scripts are why
Debian derivatives cannot share packages, even though they use
identical base code.
Correction:
The lack of multiple versions and packahe shell scripts are why
Debian derivatives cannot share packages, even though they use
On 15/08/2015 00:19, James Powell wrote:
Slackware is maintained by 3 core people with extra help as needed. The
rest of the packages are pushed by the community at large contributing.
Devuan doesn't have to maintain every package possible. That's ludicrous
to think so.
Debian got in over its
On 15/08/2015 05:38, Isaac Dunham wrote:
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 02:42:14PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 02:02:22PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
Seems to me there's something weird, both, in libreoffice depending on
just one single version of libstdc++, and in
On 15/08/2015 05:57, T.J. Duchene wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:38:35 -0700
Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote:
To elaborate on this, GCC 5.1 (I think) has changed the ABI for C++11
support.
Packages using C++11 need to be rebuilt with the new library;
libreoffice has already been rebuilt,
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 8:20 PM James Powell james4...@hotmail.com wrote:
Slackware is maintained by 3 core people with extra help as needed. The
rest of the packages are pushed by the community at large contributing.
Devuan doesn't have to maintain every package possible. That's ludicrous to
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 02:20:44PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
Having a specifically defined base makes it easier for third parties to
ensure that software is going to work without a hitch. It's much more
attractive from a testing standpoint than the usual Linux hodge-podge. I
think it is
On 15/08/2015 22:19, Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
They did, but out of all this design by committee, hidden between all
the political bullshit and bikeshedding, they also created the most
brilliant, most comprehensive set of standards for quality control,
package uniformity, license auditing, and
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:06 PM T.J. Duchene t.j.duch...@gmail.com wrote:
1. You can't mark a package as Do not install. APT simply does not give
you the option.
Heaven knows, there are a lot of people who dislike things like network-
manager, and do not them to install for any reason.
James Powell james4...@hotmail.com escribió:
[...]
Devuan should follow the Debian methodology, but equally it should
forge it's own path away from Debian. It doesn't need to draw from
any other distribution like Funtoo, CRUX, Slackware, or anything
other distributions, other than seeing
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Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan and upstream
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:06 PM T.J. Duchene t.j.duch...@gmail.com
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 05:19:25PM -0700, James Powell wrote:
Slackware is maintained by 3 core people with extra help as needed. The rest
of the packages are pushed by the community at large contributing. Devuan
doesn't have to maintain every package possible. That's ludicrous to think so.
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:38:35 -0700
Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote:
To elaborate on this, GCC 5.1 (I think) has changed the ABI for C++11
support.
Packages using C++11 need to be rebuilt with the new library;
libreoffice has already been rebuilt, but not KDE.
That's a very good
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Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan and upstream
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 05:19:25PM -0700, James Powell wrote:
Slackware is maintained by 3 core people with extra help as needed. The rest
of the packages are pushed by the community at large contributing. Devuan
Le 14/08/2015 10:16, Noel Torres a écrit :
Everyone that has anytime been trapped in the Dependency Hell knows
about the complicated chains of dependencies in Debian. As a simple
example, today it is impossible to install LibreOffice 5 and KDE
together, since libreoffice 1:5.0.1~rc1-2 ends
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 02:02:22PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
Seems to me there's something weird, both, in libreoffice depending on
just one single version of libstdc++, and in libklabxml being broken by this
version of libstdc++, be it the fault of kde or libstdc++ developpers.
That's the
As someone who's background is in Slackware, I know where automatic package
dependency resolution has its good points and bad points.
Pkgtools is very basic. Everything is left to the system administrator to
resolve, but SlackBuilds.org offered a solution. It allows packages to have
certain
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