Hi,
Antony Stone writes:
> On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 11:39:25, Steve Litt wrote:
>
>> goli...@devuan.org said on Thu, 20 Jan 2022 00:07:20 -0600
>>
>> >THIS is the official Devuan logo:
>> >
>> >https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics
>>
On 2022-01-18 10:59, Antony Stone wrote:
Hi.
[cut]
I'm sure there can be some more positive phrase we can use about init
freedom,
to emphasise what it _gives_ people, not to emphasise being cautious
about the
unknown.
Thoughts / opinions?
Antony.
This post set off quite a discussion.
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 15:38:43 -0600
goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> The bike-shedding is quite useless and frankly getting annoying
> without an accompanying tangible option for us to look at and
> evaluate.
>
> Is everyone really that bored and clueless?
I think more like curious and listless.
I
On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:08:08 +1100
Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote:
> Sure others could come up with better symbols / logos and words than
> me.
Freedom as an idea is a contrast between non-free and free.
A symbol if it is therefore shown in those three parts:
1. Non-free (limitation,
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 10:21:18AM +0100, Antonio Rendina via Dng wrote:
>
> But returning to the point, I would not reduce a distribution project to its
> init. I think that a motto should focus on the consequences:
> * more customizable
> * more universal
> * you can change every part without
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 11:10:36AM +1100, terryc wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 18:19:38 +0100 (CET)
> Karl Hammar wrote:
>
> > Hendrik:
> > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 08:49:41PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
Karl Hammar [19/01/2022 18.19]:
What is that "if" about, ohh, it is an acronym...
Unfortunately it looks like this insurance company's logotype:
https://www.if.se/
so, I'd say we cannot use it (it really make me wounder why the
authorities allows thoose names).
If is owned by the Finnish
On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 12:00:55, Steve Litt wrote:
> Antony Stone said on Thu, 20 Jan 2022 11:53:07 +0100
>
> >That logo appears on the installer screen every time you create a
> >machine.
>
> I don't pay a lot of attention to aesthetic components unless they're
> pointed out to me. I've
Antony Stone said on Thu, 20 Jan 2022 11:53:07 +0100
>On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 11:39:25, Steve Litt wrote:
>
>> goli...@devuan.org said on Thu, 20 Jan 2022 00:07:20 -0600
>>
>> >THIS is the official Devuan logo:
>> >
>>
On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 11:39:25, Steve Litt wrote:
> goli...@devuan.org said on Thu, 20 Jan 2022 00:07:20 -0600
>
> >THIS is the official Devuan logo:
> >
> >https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics
> >/devuan-logo-1000x200.png
>
> Nice!
>
>
goli...@devuan.org said on Thu, 20 Jan 2022 00:07:20 -0600
>THIS is the official Devuan logo:
>
>https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics/devuan-logo-1000x200.png
Nice!
SteveT
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En 20 de enero de 2022 7:41:23 Andrew McGlashan via Dng
escribió:
On 20/1/22 5:07 pm, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
On 2022-01-19 23:08, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote:
About the logo, /if/
Okay, then about the IMAGE ... /if/
Yes, more like a slogan :)
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Hi,
I think that the init system is not the whole point, maybe that is what
triggered the fork, but I don't find a distro attractive just because
didn't want to switch to systemd.
I think that the point is the homogenization of Linux distros and the
freedom to have hands-on on a system. As
On 20/1/22 5:07 pm, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> On 2022-01-19 23:08, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote:
>>
>> About the logo, /if/
Okay, then about the IMAGE ... /if/
...
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On 2022-01-19 23:08, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote:
About the logo, /if/
That is NOT the Devuan logo. It is a piece of decorative artwork with a
message about init freedom which is the reason Devuan exists. It is also
present on the Init Freedom page of the Devuan website at:
On 20/1/22 7:56 am, Steve Litt wrote:
> Syeed Ali said on Wed, 19 Jan 2022 09:56:59 -0800
>
>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 22:59:35 -0600
>> goli...@devuan.org wrote:
>>
>>> Or this might be even better https://transfer.sh/CeUT0r/if-rev3.png
>>
>> I submit:
>>
>> "Freedom includes init choice."
>
>
Forgive my brevity, I am on a cell phone.
Please keep in mind that a logo on the web page and the actions upon
rollover should be friendly to those colorblind or visually impaired. If a
change is made, it should preserve function for all.
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 18:19:38 +0100 (CET)
Karl Hammar wrote:
> Hendrik:
> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 08:49:41PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . .
> > > > "
On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 4:23 PM Steve Litt wrote:
>
> Antony Stone said on Wed, 19 Jan 2022 22:03:23 +0100
>
> >On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 21:59:46, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> >> goli...@devuan.org said on Tue, 18 Jan 2022 20:49:41
> >> >
> >> >Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
Antony Stone said on Wed, 19 Jan 2022 22:03:23 +0100
>On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 21:59:46, Steve Litt wrote:
>
>> goli...@devuan.org said on Tue, 18 Jan 2022 20:49:41
>> >
>> >Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
>>
>> For the first 36 hours after you posted this, I thought
On 2022-01-19 14:59, Steve Litt wrote:
goli...@devuan.org said on Tue, 18 Jan 2022 20:49:41 -0600
On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
For the first 36 hours
k...@aspodata.se said on Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:55:11 +0100 (CET)
>Curtis:
>> > On Jan 18, 2022, at 9:49 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
>> > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
>> >> Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
>> >>
>...
>> “Your first step
On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 21:59:46, Steve Litt wrote:
> goli...@devuan.org said on Tue, 18 Jan 2022 20:49:41
> >
> >Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
>
> For the first 36 hours after you posted this, I thought "if" was the
> English word "if", not "Internet Freedom" or
Curtis Maurand via Dng said on Tue, 18 Jan 2022 22:18:47 -0500
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 9:49 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
>>
>> On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
>>> Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
>>
>> Like this?
goli...@devuan.org said on Tue, 18 Jan 2022 20:49:41 -0600
>On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
>>
>> Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
>>
>
>Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
For the first 36 hours after you posted this, I thought
Syeed Ali said on Wed, 19 Jan 2022 09:56:59 -0800
>On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 22:59:35 -0600
>goli...@devuan.org wrote:
>
>> Or this might be even better https://transfer.sh/CeUT0r/if-rev3.png
>
>I submit:
>
>"Freedom includes init choice."
Very nice
SteveT
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On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 21:49:32, Blakov Niyt wrote:
> Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
> >
> > Hence https://transfer.sh/CeUT0r/if-rev3.png :)
>
> Both look WAY too much like Facebook.
A change of background colour would be sufficient to fix that.
Antony.
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Antony Stone wrote on 2022-01-19 06:09:
On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 15:07:25, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
Will need to be
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 20:04:13 +0100 (CET)
k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> Florian:
> > On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 18:19:57 +0100 (CET)
> > k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> ...
> > > To paraphrase usenix:
> > >
> > > ;init:
> > >
> > > but that would be too much of an internal joke.
> ...
> > I tried with a
Florian:
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 18:19:57 +0100 (CET)
> k...@aspodata.se wrote:
...
> > To paraphrase usenix:
> >
> > ;init:
> >
> > but that would be too much of an internal joke.
...
> I tried with a websearch for 'usenix AND syntax' - but this remains "too
> much of an internal joke" for
On Wednesday, 19 January at 10:22, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 8:37 AM Andrew McGlashan via Dng
wrote:
On 20/1/22 1:03 am, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 15:02:00, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:59:35PM -0600,
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 22:59:35 -0600
goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> Or this might be even better https://transfer.sh/CeUT0r/if-rev3.png
I submit:
"Freedom includes init choice."
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 18:19:57 +0100 (CET)
k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> Florian:
> ...
> > I like "init freedom" very much and think, that it's fully
> > sufficient resp. that it doesn't need any further comment (nor
> > advice).
> >
> > The only change I would suggest is to add a colon, that it
Florian:
...
> I like "init freedom" very much and think, that it's fully sufficient
> resp. that it doesn't need any further comment (nor advice).
>
> The only change I would suggest is to add a colon, that it reads:
>
> init: freedom
>
> or, to stress the "command" style, while keeping
o1bigtenor:
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 3:55 AM wrote:
...
> > I'd prefer something that say that you as an owner is in control and
> > has the final say. That you are not subjected to random choises by
> > some clique.
...
> but I really like the idea of nothing negative.
> There has been a lot of
Hendrik:
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 08:49:41PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
> > Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
>
> Interesting. The "if" in
On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 8:37 AM Andrew McGlashan via Dng
wrote:
>
>
>
> On 20/1/22 1:03 am, Antony Stone wrote:
> > On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 15:02:00, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:59:35PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> Like this?
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 01:36:43AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote:
>
>
> On 20/1/22 1:03 am, Antony Stone wrote:
> > On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 15:02:00, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:59:35PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> Like this?
On 20/1/22 1:03 am, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 15:02:00, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:59:35PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
>>>
>>> Or this might be even better
On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 03:09:00PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 15:07:25, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > > > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> > > >> Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
> > > >
> > > > Like this?
On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 15:07:25, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> > >> Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
> > >
> > > Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
> > >
> > > Will need to be discussed at our
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:18:47PM -0500, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 18, 2022, at 9:49 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> >
> > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> >> Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
> >
> >
On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 15:02:00, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:59:35PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> > > Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
> >
> > Or this might be even better https://transfer.sh/CeUT0r/if-rev3.png
>
> I do not see a difference
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:59:35PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> On 2022-01-18 20:49, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
> > >
> >
> > Like this?
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 08:49:41PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> >
> > Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
> >
>
> Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
Interesting. The "if" in italics and
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 06:01:29 -0600
o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 3:55 AM wrote:
> >
> > Curtis:
> > > > On Jan 18, 2022, at 9:49 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> > > > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> > > >> Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your
On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 3:55 AM wrote:
>
> Curtis:
> > > On Jan 18, 2022, at 9:49 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> > > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> > >> Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
> ...
> > “Your first step matters”
>
> I'd prefer
Curtis:
> > On Jan 18, 2022, at 9:49 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> >> Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
...
> âYour first step mattersâ
I'd prefer something that say that you as an owner is in control and
On 2022-01-18 20:49, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
Will need to be discussed at our weekly dev meet.
golinux
Or this might be
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 18, 2022, at 9:49 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
>
> On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
>> Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
>
> Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
>
> Will need to be discussed at our
On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
Will need to be discussed at our weekly dev meet.
golinux
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On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
I don't like promising - - - especially too much but I agree
even a hint of uncertainty is not a great idea.
Regards
H . . . I actually like that idea!
golinux
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:59 AM Antony Stone
wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I wanted to check the current list of init systems supported by Devuan, so I
> went to the website to find out.
>
> I noticed the prominent motto "init freedom - watch your first step!" there,
> and wonder whether this is an
On 2022-01-18 10:59, Antony Stone wrote:
Hi.
I wanted to check the current list of init systems supported by Devuan,
so I
went to the website to find out.
I noticed the prominent motto "init freedom - watch your first step!"
there,
and wonder whether this is an entirely positive thing for
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