Re: [DNG] fifth freedom

2019-12-18 Thread g4sra via Dng
> The freedom to NOT run the software, to be free to avoid vendor lock-in > through appropriate modularization/encapsulation and minimized dependencies; > meaning any free software can be replaced with a user’s preferred > alternatives (freedom 4). Late to the party as usual FOSS and the F

Re: [DNG] fifth freedom

2019-12-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 19:45:01 -0500, Steve wrote in message <20191212194501.08756...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 05:29:21 +0100 (CET) > freemedia via Dng wrote: > > > The freedom to NOT run the software, to be free to avoid vendor > > lock-in through appropriate modularization/enca

Re: [DNG] fifth freedom

2019-12-12 Thread Bruce Perens via Dng
This isn't actually a right that you can grant yourself regarding other people's copyrighted works. You can only waive the license terms regarding software for which you hold the entire copyright. And in that case, you don't have to say it in the license because it is the legal default. On Wed, De

Re: [DNG] fifth freedom

2019-12-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 05:29:21 +0100 (CET) freemedia via Dng wrote: > The freedom to NOT run the software, to be free to avoid vendor > lock-in through appropriate modularization/encapsulation and > minimized dependencies; meaning any free software can be replaced > with a user’s preferred alternat

Re: [DNG] fifth freedom

2019-12-12 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 12/12/2019 à 11:48, freemedia via Dng a écrit : >  Let me just kindly ask you to restrict the habit of numbering things starting from 0 to programming in C (and derived languages). In these languages it is a trick to map array indexes to address arithmetic; out of this scope it makes no sens

Re: [DNG] fifth freedom

2019-12-12 Thread freemedia via Dng
>  Let me just kindly ask you to restrict the habit of numbering things starting from 0 to programming in C (and derived languages). In these languages it is a trick to map array indexes to address arithmetic; out of this scope it makes no sense. the scope it makes sense in is that the first f

Re: [DNG] fifth freedom

2019-12-12 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 11/12/2019 à 05:29, freemedia via Dng a écrit : free software force and golinux have expressed interest in a revised version of the four freedoms, which i was initially very shy about the idea of. for some time ive proposed as an alternative a list of companion qualities or "pillars" which i

Re: [DNG] fifth freedom

2019-12-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 01:29:27 +1000, onefang wrote in message <20191211152927.7dnv67o7b554jf5f@true>: > On 2019-12-11 05:29:21, freemedia via Dng wrote: > > free software force and golinux have expressed interest in a > > revised version of the four freedoms, which i was initially very > > shy abo

Re: [DNG] fifth freedom

2019-12-11 Thread onefang
On 2019-12-11 05:29:21, freemedia via Dng wrote: > free software force and golinux have expressed interest in a revised version > of the four freedoms, which i was initially very shy about the idea of. for > some time ive proposed as an alternative a list of companion qualities or > "pillars" wh