Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-04 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 10:33:28AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: [cut] If I recall correctly, so far *every* Linux I've used uses an external DNS by default instead of installing its own recursor. I figure there must be a reason, but I don't know what it is. That's wrong, AFAIK. If you

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-04 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 08:27:00AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 10:33:28AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: [cut] If I recall correctly, so far *every* Linux I've used uses an external DNS by default instead of installing its own recursor. I figure there must be a

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-04 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 07:32:14AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: [cut] OK. Maybe I misspoke. The installer would ask me to choose an external DNS. It would not take the initiative of offering me to install my own on my own machine. Of course II always did have the option of tracking

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 03/04/2015 11:10, marc...@welz.org.za a écrit : Could it be we have some sort of Stockholm Syndrome where people whose data is captured at google start emphasising with the captor ? Or maybe we dimly remember that somewhere they use Linux and claimed that they weren't doing evil,

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 3. April 2015, 10:35:45 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: That said, the fallback DNS is only used if no other DNS is configured. Which IMHO is quite unusually. I think not even then, cause I think systemd-resolved is not used, unless activated and configured to be used in nsswitch.conf

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Jim Jackson
Where i come from ISP's dynamic IP lease times are *very* long, you need to reboot the home router to get a new IP and even then you may get the same IP. It's not that dynamic, at all. Add that with data your browser provides, your *.google.com in|direct usage, etc... it's easy to

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Nate Bargmann
In my case I prefer OpenWRT which uses dnsmasq to handle the task of LAN IP assignments and name resolution. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 03 April 2015 22:55:58 marc wrote: I believe some distributions already use things like dnsmasq to do simpler caching Maemo (N900) using dnsmasq http://maemo.org/packages/view/dnsmasq/ and even my more ancient wrt54g 2nd level router with Firmware: DD-WRT v24- sp2 (07/22/09) mini offers

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread marc
If I recall correctly, so far *every* Linux I've used uses an external DNS by default instead of installing its own recursor. I figure there must be a reason, but I don't know what it is. So a cache becomes more efficient if several machines use it - especially given the

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Wim
Hi Marc, P2P dns springs to mind. But it seems to have no recent development... https://github.com/Mononofu/P2P-DNS http://sourceforge.net/projects/p2pdns/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtdnsp2p/ http://qtdnsp2p.sourceforge.net/ You could also have a look at MaidSafe, for P2P cloud storage

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread T.J. Duchene
-Original Message- From: Martin Steigerwald [mailto:mar...@lichtvoll.de] Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 3:36 AM To: dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan Please do not Cc me personally on your reply. [T.J. ] Apologies. Reply to all

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:52:46PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: -Original Message- From: Adam Borowski [mailto:kilob...@angband.pl] Then why not set up a recursor by default? Benefits include: * avoiding this privacy issue * caching * secure DNSSEC (no last mile issues)

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 09:40:09PM +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:52 PM, T.J. Duchene t.j.duch...@gmail.com wrote: DNS calls are nonspecific data, associated only with your carrier's dynamic IP address, not a specific user. Where i come from ISP's dynamic IP lease

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-02 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:52 PM, T.J. Duchene t.j.duch...@gmail.com wrote: DNS calls are nonspecific data, associated only with your carrier's dynamic IP address, not a specific user. Where i come from ISP's dynamic IP lease times are *very* long, you need to reboot the home router to get a new

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-02 Thread T.J. Duchene
-Original Message- From: Adam Borowski [mailto:kilob...@angband.pl] Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:41 PM To: dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 08:38:07PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: [T.J. ] To be honest

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-02 Thread T.J. Duchene
Where i come from ISP's dynamic IP lease times are *very* long, you need to reboot the home router to get a new IP and even then you may get the same IP. It's not that dynamic, at all. Add that with data your browser provides, your *.google.com in|direct usage, etc... it's easy to correlate

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
On Thu 02 April 2015 20:30:23 T.J. Duchene wrote: Where i come from ISP's dynamic IP lease times are *very* long, you need to reboot the home router to get a new IP and even then you may get the same IP. It's not that dynamic, at all. Add that with data your browser provides, your

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-01 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 08:38:07PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: [T.J. ] To be honest, I do not quite get what the debate is over at Debian. That's something of a big *shrug* as far as I am concerned. Falling back on Google's nameserver is no better or worse than using anyone else's. Most

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-01 Thread T.J. Duchene
Bug#761658: Please do not default to using Google nameservers Marco tagged it as wontfix. Seriously, if I didn´t configure a nameserver I *mean* it. I don´t want it to just choose a Google nameserver then, without even telling me. [T.J. ] To be honest, I do not quite get what the

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-03-29 Thread Jaromil
dear Martin, On Sun, 29 Mar 2015, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Bug#761658: Please do not default to using Google nameservers tl;dr - isn't there a preseed directive to change the default?! Marco tagged it as wontfix. Seriously, if I didn´t configure a nameserver I *mean* it. I don´t want it