Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-18 Thread hellekin
Volunteers for package adoption can now head to the [devuan-maintainers][0] project. The [wiki][1] gives instructions to follow for adopting a package from the current [list of base packages][2] that jaromil posted earlier. If you need anything, try #devuan first. == hk [0]:

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-16 Thread Jack L. Frost
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 10:30:32AM +, Jaromil wrote: While I look forward to vdev's development, I think we should change as little as possible here, despite the fact we will keep some systemd code around for a little longer (but no systemd daemon running anyway). Oh, I was not suggesting

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-14 Thread Patrick Erdmann
+1 for this pragmatic approach. On 14.02.2015 11:30, Jaromil wrote: hi Jack, Isaac, On Fri, 13 Feb 2015, Jack L. Frost wrote: That's because by default X tries to hotplug input devices with evdev. And evdev requires libudev. There is a evdev fork that works with libsysdev tho:

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-14 Thread karl
Jaromil: dear Jude, On Mon, 02 Feb 2015, Jude Nelson wrote: Hey everyone, Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie that depend on some part of systemd?* I'd like to get the ball rolling on compiling out systemd dependencies for Devuan packages, but I don't

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-13 Thread Jack L. Frost
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 01:59:48AM +, Isaac Dunham wrote: mdev is in busybox. I've managed to bring up my system with it, but when I tried starting X I couldn't get the keyboard working. That's because by default X tries to hotplug input devices with evdev. And evdev requires libudev. There

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-12 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 12:05:35AM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote: Hi, On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:47 AM, Jude Nelson jud...@gmail.com wrote: Considering the dependencies on libsystemd0, libpam-systemd, libudev0, and libudev1, I get: I don't see eudev or mdev in Debian's repos, are there any

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-12 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 08:21:26PM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: On Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 12:05:35AM +, Nuno Magalh?es wrote: Hi, On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:47 AM, Jude Nelson jud...@gmail.com wrote: Considering the dependencies on libsystemd0, libpam-systemd, libudev0, and libudev1, I

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-12 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 09:27:10AM +, Jaromil wrote: its sort of ready now, but as I'm eating my own dogfood (tm) I already notice the staging workflow can be made better by creating different git repositories for new versions of the same source, rather than different branches. This

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-10 Thread Jude Nelson
Hi Jaromil, Thank you for clarifying. I'm sorry if I'm asking questions too early ;) I'll give it another try when you feel like the SDK is ready. I like this workflow a lot, especially the ability to build ISOs (and presumably other bootable media). I look forward to using it to do

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-08 Thread Jude Nelson
Hey Jaromil, I'm interested in maintaining dbus, but I don't quite understand the proposed workflow for base packages. It sounds Jenkins will pull the sources nightly from Debian (not upstream) and try to build Debian packages from them, but with the Devuan versioning scheme. If so, is there a

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-08 Thread Jaromil
On Sun, 08 Feb 2015, Jude Nelson wrote: I'm interested in maintaining dbus, that's good news! but I don't quite understand the proposed workflow for base packages.* I'm doing my best to detail it here https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-sdk/blob/master/README.md the local Build

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 20:40:30 -0500 Jude Nelson jud...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie that depend on some part of systemd? I'd like to get the ball rolling on compiling out systemd dependencies for Devuan packages, but I don't want

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-02 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 2/2/15, Jude Nelson jud...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages To: dng@lists.dyne.org dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, February 2, 2015, 7:40 PM Hey everyone, Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie that depend on some part of systemd?

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-02 Thread Joel Roth
Jude Nelson wrote: Hey everyone, Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie that depend on some part of systemd? I'd like to get the ball rolling on compiling out systemd dependencies for Devuan packages, but I don't want to duplicate anyone's efforts. Maybe a good first

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-02 Thread Jude Nelson
Thanks for the link, Joel! From what I gathered from that picture, it looks the stuff that apt-cache rdepends can tell me. Considering the dependencies on libsystemd0, libpam-systemd, libudev0, and libudev1, I get: $ apt-cache rdepends libsystemd0 libpam-systemd libudev0 libudev1 | grep -v