On Mon, 2/2/15, Jude Nelson jud...@gmail.com wrote:
Subject: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages
To: dng@lists.dyne.org dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Monday, February 2, 2015, 7:40 PM
Hey everyone,
Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie that depend on some
part of systemd?
Hello!
Am 03.02.2015 um 00:21 schrieb T.J. Duchene:
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Of course, it is also possible that Devuan will become a
systemd-free specialty distribution that follows your
suggestion of absolute minimalism. I don't see that being a
good niche, since there are already plenty to fill that area.
Unless Devuan intends to drop or fork every single piece of software that
decides to use systemd's facilities, it's going to be a war of attrition as
things go on, no matter the arguments against systemd.
for the vast majority of programs that depend on systemd, you can just
recompile programs
Clarke Sideroad wrote:
On 02/02/15 08:06, Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
I was going to have a rude reply here until I read this at the bottom:
a new secure boot implementation: this is a work-in-progress, to have
more validation of the boot process that it hasn't been tampered
with. It will
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:54:12 -0600
t.j.duch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, February 02, 2015 07:57:23 PM Vlad wrote:
Hey Lennart if you dislike Devuan that much feel free to go back to
freedesktop.org or whatever?
You misunderstood what I meant. I was in a hurry, and I admit, I
Hey everyone,
Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie that depend on
some part of systemd? I'd like to get the ball rolling on compiling out
systemd dependencies for Devuan packages, but I don't want to duplicate
anyone's efforts.
Maybe a good first step would be to get a list
I think that in the limit, it would be ideal that every piece of
software--no matter how obscure--would have sufficiently extensive
documentation to cover every single corner case of its operation (and I
want a pony, while I'm making impossible wishes :P)
I humbly recommend that the official
On Sun, Feb 01, 2015 at 08:11:54PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Sun, Feb 01, 2015 at 10:13:09PM +, KatolaZ wrote:
My point is that if you need to care about boot loaders (or
recompiling the kernel, or shrinking/extending a couple of
partitions), then you should know exactly what you
Jude Nelson wrote:
Hey everyone,
Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie that depend on
some part of systemd? I'd like to get the ball rolling on compiling out
systemd dependencies for Devuan packages, but I don't want to duplicate
anyone's efforts.
Maybe a good first
Thanks for the link, Joel!
From what I gathered from that picture, it looks the stuff that apt-cache
rdepends can tell me.
Considering the dependencies on libsystemd0, libpam-systemd, libudev0, and
libudev1, I get:
$ apt-cache rdepends libsystemd0 libpam-systemd libudev0 libudev1 | grep -v
On Monday, February 02, 2015 11:32:52 PM dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:
Devuan is probably going to have to provide some form of
compatibility in the future. This will be the case, regardless of how
you or I might feel on the subject, especially if kdbus gets
integrated into the Linux
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:56:22 -0400
Ricardo Larrañaga ricardo.larran...@gmail.com wrote:
Take a look at the third page and see what Lennart compares systemd to
Since the beginning of this systemd thing, it has been my instinctive feeling that
We are systemd of Borg,
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:22:45 -0500
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Only remains to prove the talibans of systemd that resistance is not
futile...
Is not ISIL a better analogy?
Grovelling apologies, but I have difficulties distinguishing shades in that
region of the
I think he might be a concern troll, best ignore him.
On Feb 3, 2015 1:32 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:54:12 -0600
t.j.duch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, February 02, 2015 07:57:23 PM Vlad wrote:
Hey Lennart if you dislike Devuan that much feel
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:56:22 -0400
Ricardo Larrañaga ricardo.larran...@gmail.com wrote:
Take a look at the third page and see what Lennart compares systemd
to (For those that dont feel like. It's Start Trek's Captain Piccard
as a borgand then tux as a borg.)
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 13:02:51 +0200
Martijn Dekkers devuan-li...@dekkers.org.uk wrote:
http://ma.ttias.be/whats-new-systemd-2015-edition/
tl;dr everything, including the kitchensink.
LOL, that ping gateway functionality could have been done with a 10
or 20 line shellscript with a bunch of ip
Funny thing. I hear a lot of complaining about systemd, and yes, i think
some of it is justified, but consider this...Rather than joining the
project and steering it in another direction, or creating patches to fix
what you do not like, everyone is just standing about complaining. Now
this is
# [Devuan Weekly News][current] Issue X
__Volume 02, Week 5, Devuan Week 10__
https://git.devuan.org/Envite/devuan-weekly-news/past-issues/volume-02/issue-010
## Editorial
The public surface of the project grows with the addition of new
communication channels, mentioned below. This seems to
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