Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-21 Thread Ста Деюс
Good time of the day, Didier. On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 19:01:10 +0200 you wrote: Not Linuxisms, GNUisms. Nano (and Emacs) belongs to GNU, and you know it: GNU's Not Unix! Do not forget we are talking of GNU/Linux. Trying to be POSIX-compliant, sure, but GNU nevertheless... a dilemma :-) Well.

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-21 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 09:09:31PM +0630, Ста Деюс wrote: Good time of the day, Hendrik. On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 08:14:06 -0400 you wrote: If you know which key it is. -- One key for cope/move the text! One key for: point the place of insertion, saving file ! -- Again, what can

Re: [DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer

2015-07-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello *, 2015-07-22 3:07 GMT+02:00 Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com: What is this about 'baroque init scripts' and wanting to have only ONE option? Rather prescient in light of where we are now . . . This mean, Debian has droped anything and now users AND developers have to bother with crappy

[DNG] Jeep Cherokee hacked

2015-07-21 Thread James Powell
http://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/2015/07/21/hackers-discover-way-to-remotely-control-jeeps/?cmpid=cmty_twitter_fb It appears, from the looks of things, Ashley Madison isn't the only one getting hacked. I'm wondering how this is happening so rampantly recently, but I'm trying hard not to

Re: [DNG] Jeep Cherokee hacked

2015-07-21 Thread Brad Campbell
On 22/07/15 10:15, James Powell wrote: http://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/2015/07/21/hackers-discover-way-to-remotely-control-jeeps/?cmpid=cmty_twitter_fb It appears, from the looks of things, Ashley Madison isn't the only one getting hacked. I'm wondering how this is happening so rampantly

[DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer

2015-07-21 Thread Go Linux
Just ran across this interview from 2011: https://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/12/13/people-behind-debian-ben-hutchings-member-of-the-kernel-team/ Tucked away at the end was this quote: Raphael: What’s the biggest problem of Debian? Ben: I think we try too hard to accommodate every possible option,

Re: [DNG] Upcoming Kali Linux 2.0 - systemd?

2015-07-21 Thread Bardot Jérôme
I know Raphaël Hertzog ( hert...@debian.org ) a french dev work with debian and kali. He also write debian handbook. Maybe he can help. Le 21/07/2015 11:51, Jaromil a écrit : dear list, I'm sure you heard of Kali, likely most people here still remembers Backtrack: there was a rename

Re: [DNG] Upcoming Kali Linux 2.0 - systemd?

2015-07-21 Thread James Powell
Oh wow. I've used Kali for testing security on networking routers and firewalls myself. I hope they can switch out to Devuan also. Be a real shame to see them get plagued by systemd. Often at times I forget how many specialized distributions for RD and testing are Debian based.

[DNG] openRC

2015-07-21 Thread Antonio Trkdz.tab
Dear List, I have been following your discussions with a lot of interest for quite a bit now. I really admire what you are doing as I really felt let down by Debian's decision to prevent people to have a choice. I am not a programmer and I consider myself an average user, I have been using

Re: [DNG] openRC

2015-07-21 Thread James Powell
Devuan appears to want to stick to sysvinit for the initial release. Afterwards however, is debatable, but regardless, sanity in init is going to be probably prevalent. I too favor OpenRC as well as it is really a sane way to extend sysvinit. From: Antonio

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-21 Thread fsmithred
On 07/16/2015 04:11 AM, Jaromil wrote: for instance we may have refractalinux for a good devuan based live, or dynebolic for multimedia studio, or centurionlinux (made up thinking of Dan) for a good server base. Devuan should serve well as a reliable base for all those, as this is exactly

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-21 Thread Ста Деюс
Good time of the day, Hendrik. On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 08:14:06 -0400 you wrote: If you know which key it is. -- One key for cope/move the text! One key for: point the place of insertion, saving file ! -- Again, what can be easier?! If you know which key it is. Is there an

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-21 Thread Ста Деюс
Good time of the day, Hendrik. On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 08:18:31 -0400 you wrote: Pardon, but funny! :o) Funny, yes, but very true. I don't think they looked at keyboard distance between the various commands when they named them. You can make a symlink to mc w/ whatsoever name you would.