Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

Sure. Clicking on "Connected" would be fine. If possible, having it displayed on a second, below "Connected" without having to click, and in smaller type would be ok, too, but I'm guessing that's not as easy to code or might cause problems with the layout (spacing). I don't understand your last

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

> Sure. Clicking on "Connected" would be fine. If possible, having it > displayed on a second, below "Connected" without having to click, and in > smaller type would be ok, too, but I'm guessing that's not as easy to code > or might cause problems with the layout (spacing). I will provide a small

Re: [DNG] New mirror of Devuan 100% free

Ok! :) One more question: Suppose at some point a new mirror had to be set up (for example in Australia). Is the mirror then just a copy of a directory - for example, "/dists/devuan" on an FTP or HTTP server - or does it require actively running software for self-maintainance (like the

[DNG] network device naming (was: What can I do after netman?)

Steve Litt writes: > On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:45:03 +0100 > Rainer Weikusat wrote: > >> ... and who wouldn't want his network interface to be named >> "enp0s29u1u2"? After all, anybody unterstands the meaning of eth0 --- >> how terribly

Re: [DNG] New mirror of Devuan 100% free

Hi Aitor how did it work out? Do you have a functional mirror now? Best regards, T. On 09/17/2015 11:36 AM, aitor_czr wrote: Regenerating /dists/... Aitor. On 17/09/15 19:52, aitor_czr wrote: There are packages missing, but i've seen were is the mistake and i will

Re: [DNG] [announce] s6-rc, a s6-based service manager for Unix systems

Rob Owens writes: >> From: "Rainer Weikusat" >> Laurent Bercot writes: > >>> I'm talking normal use cases here, i.e. situations where the services >>> *will* succeed. In those situations, it is better to start everything

Re: [DNG] Purpose of an OS: was network device naming (was: What can I do after netman?)

Steve Litt wrote: >> The whole point of having 'an operating system' >> is that it provides an abstract interface userspace software can use >> to interact with the physical components of a different computer >> according to the functions they're supposed to be

[DNG] OpenRC: was s6-rc, a s6-based service manager for Unix systems

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Rob Owens wrote: > This system is supposed to mount several NFS shares > on boot, but it always fails -- even when using openrc (which is > dependency-based) on Funtoo. Am I the only person who doesn't like OpenRC? It can't respawn

Re: [DNG] Purpose of an OS: was network device naming (was: What can I do after netman?)

> > The whole point of having 'an operating system' > > is that it provides an abstract interface userspace software can use > > to interact with the physical components of a different computer > > according to the functions they're supposed to be provide, regardless > > of the way this particular

Re: [DNG] OpenRC: was s6-rc, a s6-based service manager for Unix systems

> OpenRC? I just don't get it. OpenRC is twisted because Linux people [are said to] not understand BSD; Here's a median-length rc.d script (the one for inetd) | #!/bin/sh | # | # $NetBSD: inetd,v 1.7 2004/08/13 18:08:03 mycroft Exp $ | # | | # PROVIDE: inetd | # REQUIRE: DAEMON LOGIN | # KEYWORD:

Re: [DNG] Devuan Constitu..?

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:40:58 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 09:39:08PM +0200, natacha wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On 09/28/2015 08:10 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > > Hi natacha,The first

[DNG] Purpose of an OS: was network device naming (was: What can I do after netman?)

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:27:32 +0100 Rainer Weikusat wrote: > The whole point of having 'an operating system' > is that it provides an abstract interface userspace software can use > to interact with the physical components of a different computer > according to the

Re: [DNG] OpenRC: was s6-rc, a s6-based service manager for Unix systems

On 29/09/2015 17:34, Timo Buhrmester wrote: It can't respawn Probably because people don't want this behavior. Auto-respawn only makes sense when you're "relying" on buggy software you already expect to blow up, *and* are unwilling to debug it. "Try turning it off and on again", "A restart

Re: [DNG] OpenRC: was s6-rc, a s6-based service manager for Unix systems

- Original Message - > From: "Steve Litt" > > Am I the only person who doesn't like OpenRC? It can't respawn > (supervise, whatever you call it). Its init scripts are every bit as > complicated as those of sysvinit, but must be written in a special > language

Re: [DNG] OpenRC: was s6-rc, a s6-based service manager for Unix systems

Timo Buhrmester wrote: > Probably because people don't want this behavior. Auto-respawn only > makes sense when you're "relying" on buggy software you already expect > to blow up, *and* are unwilling to debug it. "Try turning it off > and on again", "A restart will fix it"

Re: [DNG] OpenRC: was s6-rc, a s6-based service manager for Unix systems

> what if it's an exploit ? [...] it means the attacker only has to hit > once to cause a denial of service that lasts until some admin can deal > with it I'd pick a one-hit DoS over unlimited attempts to execute code every day. But yes, you're right that it heavily depends on what service we're

Re: [DNG] Purpose of an OS: was network device naming

Simon Hobson writes: > Steve Litt wrote: >>> The whole point of having 'an operating system' >>> is that it provides an abstract interface userspace software can use >>> to interact with the physical components of a different computer >>>

Re: [DNG] Purpose of an OS: was network device naming

Simon Hobson writes: [...] > However, I am happy with the way Udev does it. Booting a "new" system > results in an initially random device ordering, but once it's created > a rules file the devices stay stable until "something changes". When > changing hardware, or

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

Edward, Thanks! It looks good. I can't really see the back window, but I think maybe it looks better with the buttons on the side. You probably don't need to list the loopback, but I'm guessing it's there because it's easier to leave it than to take it out. fsr On 09/29/2015 04:30 PM, Edward

Re: [DNG] live-build

Hi Daniel Thanks, hopefully this can be rectified. I'd really like to get a build out and keep up with the devuan releases. Cheers Ozi On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 6:24 AM, Daniel Reurich wrote: > Hi Ozi, > > It's possible that live-build doesn't have the correct public

Re: [DNG] New mirror of Devuan 100% free

Hi Daniel, On 09/29/2015 09:30 PM, Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 30/09/15 02:15, tilt! wrote: >> Suppose at some point a new mirror had to be set up (for example >> in Australia). >> >> Is the mirror then just a copy of a directory - for example, >> "/dists/devuan" on an FTP or HTTP server - or

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

Hi fsmithred, Are you suggesting me to remove the lines starting with lo? If that is the case, it can be done. Thanks On 30/09/2015, fsmithred wrote: > Edward, > > Thanks! It looks good. I can't really see the back window, but I think > maybe it looks better with the

Re: [DNG] OpenRC: was s6-rc, a s6-based service manager for Unix systems

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:00:23AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:05:22 -0400 (EDT) > Rob Owens wrote: > > > > This system is supposed to mount several NFS shares > > on boot, but it always fails -- even when using openrc (which is > > dependency-based) on

Re: [DNG] OpenRC: was s6-rc, a s6-based service manager for Unix systems

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 06:45:25PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote: > On 29/09/2015 17:34, Timo Buhrmester wrote: > >>It can't respawn > >Probably because people don't want this behavior. Auto-respawn only > >makes sense when you're "relying" on buggy software you already expect > >to blow up, *and*

Re: [DNG] New mirror of Devuan 100% free

On 30/09/15 02:15, tilt! wrote: Ok! :) One more question: Suppose at some point a new mirror had to be set up (for example in Australia). Is the mirror then just a copy of a directory - for example, "/dists/devuan" on an FTP or HTTP server - or does it require actively running software for

Re: [DNG] OpenRC: was s6-rc, a s6-based service manager for Unix systems

Timo Buhrmester writes: >> OpenRC? I just don't get it. [...] >> It can't respawn > Probably because people don't want this behavior. Auto-respawn only > makes sense when you're "relying" on buggy software you already expect > to blow up, *and* are unwilling to debug it.

Re: [DNG] live-build

Hi Aitor. I ran the following and I'm still getting this error. E: Release signed by unknown key (key id CBF8D6FD518E17E1) Ozi lb clean --purge lb init lb config -a amd64 \ --binary-images iso \ --distribution jessie \ --win32-loader false \ --checksums md5 \ --archive-areas "main" \

Re: [DNG] live-build

Hi Ozi, It's possible that live-build doesn't have the correct public key for the devuan repository on hand. D On 30/09/15 09:11, Ozi Traveller wrote: Hi Aitor. I ran the following and I'm still getting this error. E: Release signed by unknown key (key id CBF8D6FD518E17E1) Ozi lb clean

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

Hi All, This is the new netman's dialog displaying Network Information. http://s1.postimg.org/5qx5y6vxr/2015_09_29_08_1600x900_scrot.png Please, give feedback about the new dialog box. Edward On 29/09/2015, Edward Bartolo wrote: >> Sure. Clicking on "Connected" would be