Re: [DNG] Gtk-theme for Devuan

[Steve Litt]

On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 23:11:17 -0400
Hendrik Boom  wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 11:02:19PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 23:36:06 +0200
> > aitor_czr  wrote:
> > 
> >   
> > > Help, Steve Litt !!
> > > 
> > >Aitor.  
> > 
> > I think a separate theme is needed for people with fuzzy vision.
> > 
> > PRIORITIES:
> > 
> > * Readability over pretty.
> > * Quick Contextual recognition over pretty.
> > * Readability over real estate efficiency of the screen.
> > * Quick clickability over pretty.
> > * Keystroke access over not bothering to program same.
> > 
> > TIPS:
> > 
> > * Noticibly different color titlebar for focused window.
> > * Reasonable sized titlebars with big devices like close, max, hide
> >   and windowshade.
> > * Window designs capable of functioning with big fonts.
> > * NO FRIGGIN TRANSPARENCY!
> > * Instantly noticible borders. I use 2px cyan borders on the focused
> >   window.
> > * Text with big contrast. Black on white, black on f0f0f0, black or
> >   darkblue on cc, or white, bright yellow or bright green on
> > black are ideal.
> > * Never assume red and green will contrast with each other:
> > Red/green color blindness is the most common form of color
> > blindness.
> > * Ideally, the text should still contrast if all color is converted
> > to shades of gray.
> > * Active buttons should be instantly recognizable (Firefox hang your
> >   head in shame).
> > * Bold mouse pointer. Mouse tracks are nice, but I haven't seen
> > them in years.
> > 
> > Normal people can continue using normal themes, but people like me
> > need what's described above.
> > 
> > I have such a theme, but the problem is it bears absolutely no
> > resemblance to other Devuon themes, and also, it's built from other
> > themes so it's kind of a mess.
> >   
> 
> Sounds like specs for a really usable theme.  Can I use it?
> 
> Even though I'm using xfce or icewm instead of gnome?

Blind leading the blind, no pun intended. I'm using it in Openbox on
Void Linux, you're using it on xfce or icewm.

I'm attaching the following file:

/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks_slitt/openbox-3/themerc

It started with Clearlooks, and I experimented til I got what I wanted.
I don't understand everything I did. The main points here are:

* dd active titlebar background
* cc active titlebar label color
* 2 pixel border, 00
* Window handle width 6px
* 00 window grip color

Believe me, glance for 1/4 second and you know which is the active
window, and how far it extends in every direction. That big red
titlebar is the only seriously colorful thing on the screen, and the
borders are unmistakable.

It'snotpretty.

SteveT

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Re: [DNG] openvpn systemd

[Robert Storey]

This got me wondering...do you we have a How-To for setting up OpenVPN on
Devuan? I'm using wicd for my Internet connection, which as I understand
doesn't support OpenVPN directly, but there is supposed to be a way to make
it work. I haven't investigated that thoroughly, but when I google "openvpn
Devuan" I keep getting links for setting up Debian, with systemd.

Sorry if this has been asked and answered before, but I didn't find it
doing a search. It's a question that's likely to come up again and again,
so if not documented, I should first get it working and then write it up
myself. I'd be happy to do so.

cheers,
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Re: [DNG] Gtk-theme for Devuan

[Hendrik Boom]

On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 11:02:19PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 23:36:06 +0200
> aitor_czr  wrote:
> 
> 
> > Help, Steve Litt !!
> > 
> >Aitor.
> 
> I think a separate theme is needed for people with fuzzy vision.
> 
> PRIORITIES:
> 
> * Readability over pretty.
> * Quick Contextual recognition over pretty.
> * Readability over real estate efficiency of the screen.
> * Quick clickability over pretty.
> * Keystroke access over not bothering to program same.
> 
> TIPS:
> 
> * Noticibly different color titlebar for focused window.
> * Reasonable sized titlebars with big devices like close, max, hide
>   and windowshade.
> * Window designs capable of functioning with big fonts.
> * NO FRIGGIN TRANSPARENCY!
> * Instantly noticible borders. I use 2px cyan borders on the focused
>   window.
> * Text with big contrast. Black on white, black on f0f0f0, black or
>   darkblue on cc, or white, bright yellow or bright green on black
>   are ideal.
> * Never assume red and green will contrast with each other: Red/green
>   color blindness is the most common form of color blindness.
> * Ideally, the text should still contrast if all color is converted to
>   shades of gray.
> * Active buttons should be instantly recognizable (Firefox hang your
>   head in shame).
> * Bold mouse pointer. Mouse tracks are nice, but I haven't seen them in
>   years.
> 
> Normal people can continue using normal themes, but people like me need
> what's described above.
> 
> I have such a theme, but the problem is it bears absolutely no
> resemblance to other Devuon themes, and also, it's built from other
> themes so it's kind of a mess.
> 

Sounds like specs for a really usable theme.  Can I use it?

Even though I'm using xfce or icewm instead of gnome?

-- hendrik

> 
> SteveT
> 
> Steve Litt 
> July 2016 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques
>  of the Successful Technologist
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques
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Re: [DNG] Gtk-theme for Devuan

[Steve Litt]

On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 23:36:06 +0200
aitor_czr  wrote:


> Help, Steve Litt !!
> 
>Aitor.

I think a separate theme is needed for people with fuzzy vision.

PRIORITIES:

* Readability over pretty.
* Quick Contextual recognition over pretty.
* Readability over real estate efficiency of the screen.
* Quick clickability over pretty.
* Keystroke access over not bothering to program same.

TIPS:

* Noticibly different color titlebar for focused window.
* Reasonable sized titlebars with big devices like close, max, hide
  and windowshade.
* Window designs capable of functioning with big fonts.
* NO FRIGGIN TRANSPARENCY!
* Instantly noticible borders. I use 2px cyan borders on the focused
  window.
* Text with big contrast. Black on white, black on f0f0f0, black or
  darkblue on cc, or white, bright yellow or bright green on black
  are ideal.
* Never assume red and green will contrast with each other: Red/green
  color blindness is the most common form of color blindness.
* Ideally, the text should still contrast if all color is converted to
  shades of gray.
* Active buttons should be instantly recognizable (Firefox hang your
  head in shame).
* Bold mouse pointer. Mouse tracks are nice, but I haven't seen them in
  years.

Normal people can continue using normal themes, but people like me need
what's described above.

I have such a theme, but the problem is it bears absolutely no
resemblance to other Devuon themes, and also, it's built from other
themes so it's kind of a mess.


SteveT

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Re: [DNG] Gtk-theme for Devuan

[Go Linux]

Author: emnin...@riseup.net
Date: 2016-07-23 15:46 -500
To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] Gtk-theme for Devuan

Am Sat, 23 Jul 2016 19:32:34 + schrieb :

>> I'm comparing OSX-Breeze, GTX and Vertex.
>>
>> IMO, Vertex is best.
>>
>>Aitor.
>>
>
> +1
> 
> If you're interested. i adapted vertex dark, as far as i could, to the
> devuan style guidelines. If you'd like, i could pass it to you. 
> 

---

emninger . . . I've been trying to catch you on IRC and git for some time. The 
dark purpy color in your theme - #3B3B4A - is too blue.  Try something like 
#423B4A instead.

I found the dark theme very disorienting so didn't spend much time checking out 
inconsistencies like I did with aitor's offerings.  Not sure whether the 
problems I saw are in the theme or in the coding of the apps themselves.  There 
may be a way to fix those things in the theme but that would take drilling down 
deep into the code.  If/when I finally get around to that I'll start from the 
original themes to make sure the errors weren't introduced with your individual 
theming.

golinux

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Re: [DNG] Gtk-theme for Devuan

[aitor_czr]

On 07/23/2016 09:32 PM, Go Linux wrote:

I really appreciate the work you've put into these.  emninger had previously 
shared a Vertex purpy so I was aware of that theme.  I had a very quick look at 
both of your contributions and found the following.

In addition to the colors of the assets, I found the OSX-Breeze grays are way 
too dark. This theme also reduces the size of the panel icons - I suspect it's 
a border issue.  In addition there are some rollover color problems - a blue 
rollover on the synaptic column options and in thunar, white on white rollovers 
on the menu bar.  PDF reader has an immutable charcoal title bar.  Ugly.

Vertex messes with the size and spacing on the panel icons too.  And the white inactive 
titlebar is just too gtk3ish for my taste. It blends with the white BG on pages so I have 
a hard time finding where the apps are on the page.  I also see macish circle control 
buttons on the pdf reader. UGH! And the PDF reader slider is about 1/8 inch wide.  That's 
got to be a gtk3 "improvement".  There is also some blue around check-box 
choices.  And I just noticed that the input bar on xchat is now dark green

So still a lot of warts that need to be cleaned up.  And there are undoubtedly 
many more waiting to be discovered.

As to colors . . . for each release there will be a primany/signature color - 
purpy for jessie and then there are secondary/ accent colors like leafy.  Of 
course they are harmonious but their dominance or recessiveness defines the 
look of each release.  We are planning to have the website colors change to 
reflect the primary desktop color for each new release too.

Cheers!


It seems to be written between GoLinux and Rainer Weikusat, because i 
don't understand anything...


Help, Steve Litt !!

  Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] Open-RC on devuan - some questions

[emninger]

@Jaromil, parazyd

From a previous question i posted about openrc, i got an answer by
jaromil, that there is underway an openrc package for ascii (which
would respect the gentoo style of implementation).

Now, my question: Is there a, may be even experimental package,
already? I'd be happy to use (and try out) that :)

TIA
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Re: [DNG] Earth-friendly micro-desktop Devuan demo

[emninger]

Am Sat, 23 Jul 2016 19:32:34 +
schrieb Jaromil :

> yes is another occasion for rejoicing for all of us :^) and I find
> this a very interesting point since most systemd arguments talk about
> "booting times" but here is really about "login times".

Well, but that boot-up speed reasoning nowadays, seems somehow outdated
anyway: It's a matter of fact, that the manjaro openrc editions (of the
same flavour) boot faster than the systemd flavours. ;)
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Re: [DNG] Gtk-theme for Devuan

[emninger]

Am Sat, 23 Jul 2016 19:32:34 +
schrieb :

> I'm comparing OSX-Breeze, GTX and Vertex.
> 
> IMO, Vertex is best.
> 
>Aitor.
> 

+1

If you're interested. i adapted vertex dark, as far as i could, to the
devuan style guidelines. If you'd like, i could pass it to you.
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Re: [DNG] Gtk-theme for Devuan

[Go Linux]

On Sat, 7/23/16, aitor_czr  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [DNG] Gtk-theme for Devuan
 To: "Go Linux" , Dng@lists.dyne.org, Dng@lists.dyne.org
 Date: Saturday, July 23, 2016, 11:10 AM

Hi again,

On 07/23/2016 02:00 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm working on a flat theme for Devuan, which uses the green theme of
> the init freedom logo:
>
> http://gnuinos.org/Devuan-Green/
>
> It's based on the OSX-Breeze, and seems to be homogeneus. But the theme
> still needs more changes.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Aitor.

What about this other one, based on Vertex:

http://gnuinos.org/Devuan-Green-Vertex/

The purple theme is haromious with the init freedom logo's colour. They
are the same colours used in the website.

100% purpy would be boring :)

I still have to change the blue assets and the borders...

Cheers,

   Aitor.



I really appreciate the work you've put into these.  emninger had previously 
shared a Vertex purpy so I was aware of that theme.  I had a very quick look at 
both of your contributions and found the following.

In addition to the colors of the assets, I found the OSX-Breeze grays are way 
too dark. This theme also reduces the size of the panel icons - I suspect it's 
a border issue.  In addition there are some rollover color problems - a blue 
rollover on the synaptic column options and in thunar, white on white rollovers 
on the menu bar.  PDF reader has an immutable charcoal title bar.  Ugly.

Vertex messes with the size and spacing on the panel icons too.  And the white 
inactive titlebar is just too gtk3ish for my taste. It blends with the white BG 
on pages so I have a hard time finding where the apps are on the page.  I also 
see macish circle control buttons on the pdf reader. UGH! And the PDF reader 
slider is about 1/8 inch wide.  That's got to be a gtk3 "improvement".  There 
is also some blue around check-box choices.  And I just noticed that the input 
bar on xchat is now dark green 

So still a lot of warts that need to be cleaned up.  And there are undoubtedly 
many more waiting to be discovered.

As to colors . . . for each release there will be a primany/signature color - 
purpy for jessie and then there are secondary/ accent colors like leafy.  Of 
course they are harmonious but their dominance or recessiveness defines the 
look of each release.  We are planning to have the website colors change to 
reflect the primary desktop color for each new release too.

Cheers!

golinux





 
 
 
 
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Re: [DNG] Gtk-theme for Devuan

[aitor_czr]

Hi again,

On 07/23/2016 02:00 PM, aitor_czr wrote:

Hi all,

I'm working on a flat theme for Devuan, which uses the green theme of
the init freedom logo:

http://gnuinos.org/Devuan-Green/

It's based on the OSX-Breeze, and seems to be homogeneus. But the theme
still needs more changes.

Cheers,

Aitor.


What about this other one, based on Vertex:

http://gnuinos.org/Devuan-Green-Vertex/

The purple theme is haromious with the init freedom logo's colour. They 
are the same colours used in the website.


100% purpy would be boring :)

I still have to change the blue assets and the borders...

Cheers,

  Aitor.



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Re: [DNG] Earth-friendly micro-desktop Devuan demo

[Didier Kryn]

Le 23/07/2016 17:14, Jaromil a écrit :

yes is another occasion for rejoicing for all of us :^) and I find
this a very interesting point since most systemd arguments talk about
"booting times" but here is really about "login times".


Devuan might be faster just because Slim starts faster than Gdm3, 
without relation to systemd/sysvinit choice.


Didier

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Re: [DNG] F1 and special usernames on the login screen

[Robert Storey]

golinux said:

> Thanks for reminding me about reisuo/b. Is reisuo/b really enabled on
devuan by
> default?  Seems like I tried it a while back and it didn't work.  So I
checked
> /etc/sysctl.conf and the line needed wasn't there (neither was there any
other
> uncommented line).  So my question is . . . if reisuo/b is enabled by
default in
> devuan is it located elsewhere and does kernel.sysrq = 1 work for both
reisuo and
> reisub?  Or are they different?  (A quick search has me thinking that one
line works
> for both.)

Hi golinux,

Alt-reisub/o seems to be working for me, and I didn't do anything to enable
it.

If you look in /etc/sysctl.d there is a file README.sysctl which basically
says you can create and name config files in this directory just about
anything. Here are the notes which I've kept for Ubuntu from back in the
pre-systemd days:

-

open sysctl.d using 'open as root'
edit 10-magic-sysrq.conf
comment out the ridiculous default, replace it with the code to allow all
sensible 'magic' keys
("1 - enable all functions of sysrq". You might like to give it extra
thought. I don't.)
CODE: SELECT ALL
#kernel.sysrq = 127
kernel.sysrq = 1

save it, and remember to come out of elevated priviledges.
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Re: [DNG] F1 and special usernames on the login screen

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 10:45:43 +0200, Didier wrote in message 
<57932eb7.6080...@in2p3.fr>:

> Le 22/07/2016 23:33, Rick Moen a écrit :
> > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no):
> >
> >> ..bytt ut "inn" med "på", rett oversatt skal dette være:
> >> "Jeg kan også skrive på mitt tredje språk." ;o)
> > I'm learning, though, and I thank you.  ;->
> >
> 
>  Hope you won't spend as much of the bandwidth with e-learning 
> Norwegian as others did with e-learning C :-)

..worried about cultural imperialism, freedom language speaker? ;o)

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Re: [DNG] Earth-friendly micro-desktop Devuan demo

[Edward Bartolo]

Hi,

Jaromil wrote:
<<
they say "interestingly the desktop login times on
Devuan Jessie (time from login to when the desktop is ready to use)
appear to be faster than for Debian, Parabola, and Fedora 24"
>>

Well done, Devuan! :D

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Re: [DNG] Gtk-theme for Devuan

[aitor_czr]

On 07/23/2016 12:49 PM, aitor_czr wrote:

Hi all,

I'm working on a flat theme for Devuan, which uses the green theme of 
the init freedom logo:


http://gnuinos.org/Devuan-Green/

It's based on the OSX-Breeze, and seems to be homogeneus. But the 
theme still needs more changes.


Cheers,

  Aitor. 


I'm comparing OSX-Breeze, GTX and Vertex.

IMO, Vertex is best.

  Aitor.



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[DNG] Gtk-theme for Devuan

[aitor_czr]

Hi all,

I'm working on a flat theme for Devuan, which uses the green theme of 
the init freedom logo:


http://gnuinos.org/Devuan-Green/

It's based on the OSX-Breeze, and seems to be homogeneus. But the theme 
still needs more changes.


Cheers,

  Aitor.



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Re: [DNG] Earth-friendly micro-desktop Devuan demo

[aitor_czr]

Hi,

On 07/23/2016 10:52 AM, Didier Kryn  wrote:

Le 23/07/2016 08:50, Jaromil a écrit :

>Here an independent review by the good people of the "Earth-friendly
>EOMA68" micro-desktop (a project worth following BTW!) who tried our
>cubieboard ARM image which snapped into boot with all ready to work.
>
>https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/devuan-demo
>
>worth noting, they say "interestingly the desktop login times on
>Devuan Jessie (time from login to when the desktop is ready to use)
>appear to be faster than for Debian, Parabola, and Fedora 24"
>
>also this is a confirmation of our ambition with Devuan and the work
>done on the SDK: we are coverin "directly" the most popular hardware
>platforms. So to say, where you have to switch to Raspbian for RPi*
>devices because Debian won't work on them, Devuan will and we can all
>work on the same package repositories. This has several advantages
>mostly on the front of maintainability.
>

  Very positive feed-back! Congratulations for the good job!

  Didier


+1

I saw this video tonight.

Hellekin mentioned it in twitter :)

Thanks,

  Aitor.



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[DNG] keyboard layouts

[info at smallinnovations.nl]

On 23-07-16 02:44, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:

Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 20:50:35 -0400
From: Steve Litt
To:dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 22, Issue 80


>
>You must be living in the "wrong" part of Europe, here in the
>Netherlands you must search for a not US-Keyboard.
>
>Grtz.
>
>Nico

LOL, for the first time in history, a "Digest" subject better
represents the current thread than the original subject.

SteveT

Sorry, will not happen again.

Besides that: as a international community keyboard layouts, cultural 
differences  etc. are subjects to be aware of.


Grtz

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[DNG] keyboard layouts

[info at smallinnovations.nl]

On 23-07-16 10:52, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:

Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 10:34:34 +0200
From: Didier Kryn
To:dng@lists.dyne.org



>
>You must be living in the "wrong" part of Europe, here in the
>Netherlands you must search for a not US-Keyboard.
>

  I mean in France. When buying HP you can only get European or
Saoudian keyboards, with Dell you have full choice AFAIR, and with Sony
you can only buy a French keyboard. Never tried US keyboards on others.

  Didier


I understand. Being  inside the European market it should be possible to 
buy one outside of France (may be Belgium?) and still have your full 
consumer rights.


Besides i used to use a old IBM Thinkpad with a "Dutch" keyboard layout 
(yes they do exist) but because i do blind typing i installed the US 
International with dead keys keyboard layout. This worked well and had 
the € sign under Alt-right + 5.


Grtz

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Re: [DNG] Wirth's law

[Simon Walter]

On 07/23/2016 06:01 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:

Le 23/07/2016 10:49, Simon Walter a écrit :

On 07/23/2016 05:42 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:

Le 22/07/2016 18:21, Brian Nash a écrit :

For example, when I discovered multithreading, all my programs used it
in some way, even when it was unnecessary.


I sometimes use multithreading, but never mutexes. Mutex can be harmless
if there's only one. Otherwise better use select()/poll() or you'll
waste time or even dead-lock. It's amazing how the old select() paradigm
is so much better than the modern mutex. I see mutex as an invention to
relieve the programmer from thinking.


Really? I must be pretty stupid because I have think extra hard when
using mutexes... :(


Sorry if I hurted you. Maybe you thought hard to understand how to
not dead-lock.



No worries. I am just trying to make a joke. As you can see, I am not so 
funny. ;)

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Re: [DNG] Wirth's law

[Didier Kryn]

Le 23/07/2016 10:49, Simon Walter a écrit :

On 07/23/2016 05:42 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:

Le 22/07/2016 18:21, Brian Nash a écrit :

For example, when I discovered multithreading, all my programs used it
in some way, even when it was unnecessary.


I sometimes use multithreading, but never mutexes. Mutex can be harmless
if there's only one. Otherwise better use select()/poll() or you'll
waste time or even dead-lock. It's amazing how the old select() paradigm
is so much better than the modern mutex. I see mutex as an invention to
relieve the programmer from thinking.


Really? I must be pretty stupid because I have think extra hard when 
using mutexes... :(


Sorry if I hurted you. Maybe you thought hard to understand how to 
not dead-lock.


The principle is to protect shared variables in such a way that you 
can then roll every thread as if it was running alone - this is what I 
meant by "relieve from thinking". With select() you must keep in mind 
the interactions between the threads, and all your program is organized 
around these interactions, with only one wait point per thread for all 
possible events; therefore no dead-lock.


Didier

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Re: [DNG] Earth-friendly micro-desktop Devuan demo

[Didier Kryn]

Le 23/07/2016 08:50, Jaromil a écrit :

Here an independent review by the good people of the "Earth-friendly
EOMA68" micro-desktop (a project worth following BTW!) who tried our
cubieboard ARM image which snapped into boot with all ready to work.

https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/devuan-demo

worth noting, they say "interestingly the desktop login times on
Devuan Jessie (time from login to when the desktop is ready to use)
appear to be faster than for Debian, Parabola, and Fedora 24"

also this is a confirmation of our ambition with Devuan and the work
done on the SDK: we are coverin "directly" the most popular hardware
platforms. So to say, where you have to switch to Raspbian for RPi*
devices because Debian won't work on them, Devuan will and we can all
work on the same package repositories. This has several advantages
mostly on the front of maintainability.


Very positive feed-back! Congratulations for the good job!

Didier

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Re: [DNG] Wirth's law

[Simon Walter]

On 07/23/2016 05:42 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:

Le 22/07/2016 18:21, Brian Nash a écrit :

For example, when I discovered multithreading, all my programs used it
in some way, even when it was unnecessary.


I sometimes use multithreading, but never mutexes. Mutex can be harmless
if there's only one. Otherwise better use select()/poll() or you'll
waste time or even dead-lock. It's amazing how the old select() paradigm
is so much better than the modern mutex. I see mutex as an invention to
relieve the programmer from thinking.


Really? I must be pretty stupid because I have think extra hard when 
using mutexes... :(

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Re: [DNG] F1 and special usernames on the login screen

[Didier Kryn]

Le 22/07/2016 23:33, Rick Moen a écrit :

Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no):


..bytt ut "inn" med "på", rett oversatt skal dette være:
"Jeg kan også skrive på mitt tredje språk." ;o)

I'm learning, though, and I thank you.  ;->



Hope you won't spend as much of the bandwidth with e-learning 
Norwegian as others did with e-learning C :-)


Didier


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Re: [DNG] Wirth's law

[Didier Kryn]

Le 22/07/2016 18:21, Brian Nash a écrit :

For example, when I discovered multithreading, all my programs used it
in some way, even when it was unnecessary. 


I sometimes use multithreading, but never mutexes. Mutex can be harmless 
if there's only one. Otherwise better use select()/poll() or you'll 
waste time or even dead-lock. It's amazing how the old select() paradigm 
is so much better than the modern mutex. I see mutex as an invention to 
relieve the programmer from thinking.


Didier

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Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 22, Issue 80

[Didier Kryn]

Le 22/07/2016 17:30, info at smallinnovations.nl a écrit :

On 22-07-16 07:24, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:

Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 06:56:35 +0200
From: Didier Kryn
To:dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: Re: [DNG] F1 and special usernames on the login screen

[..]

  BTW my laptop has an English keyboard because it is impossible in
Europe to buy one with a US keyboard.

  Didier


You must be living in the "wrong" part of Europe, here in the 
Netherlands you must search for a not US-Keyboard.




I mean in France. When buying HP you can only get European or 
Saoudian keyboards, with Dell you have full choice AFAIR, and with Sony 
you can only buy a French keyboard. Never tried US keyboards on others.


Didier
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[DNG] Earth-friendly micro-desktop Devuan demo

[Jaromil]

Here an independent review by the good people of the "Earth-friendly
EOMA68" micro-desktop (a project worth following BTW!) who tried our
cubieboard ARM image which snapped into boot with all ready to work.

https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/devuan-demo

worth noting, they say "interestingly the desktop login times on
Devuan Jessie (time from login to when the desktop is ready to use)
appear to be faster than for Debian, Parabola, and Fedora 24"

also this is a confirmation of our ambition with Devuan and the work
done on the SDK: we are coverin "directly" the most popular hardware
platforms. So to say, where you have to switch to Raspbian for RPi*
devices because Debian won't work on them, Devuan will and we can all
work on the same package repositories. This has several advantages
mostly on the front of maintainability.

ciao


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