On 23/11/18 at 14:25, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 01:09:17PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
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>>> Devuan is currently used in a mutlitude of
>>> environments that include server farms, corporate and personal
>>> servers, embedded systems, personal devices, and desktops.
On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 01:28:00PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 23/11/18 at 12:02, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> > On 11/22/18 4:28 PM, ael wrote:
> >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 03:10:15PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What is needed to install so that Devuan Jessie recognizes Huawei
>
On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 01:09:17PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
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> > Devuan is currently used in a mutlitude of
> > environments that include server farms, corporate and personal
> > servers, embedded systems, personal devices, and desktops. So any
> > choice Devuan will make has
On 2018-11-23 09:03, Alessandro Selli wrote:
On 23/11/18 at 14:32, Stephan Seitz wrote:
Again, are you doing the work for your setup you care so much?
Yes, I am. It's me who designs the filesystem layout when I chose
"Manual" in the install program menu.
It's me who reconfigures the
On 2018-11-23 07:32, Stephan Seitz wrote:
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Since Devuan and Debian are build by volunteers they will do what they
want to do. If no one is interested in keeping the choices they will
fade away. Will you step forward and work to keep the choices?
[trim]
Again, are you doing the
On Fr, Nov 23, 2018 at 01:09:17 +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
I do get the reasons the merge proponents prefer this filesystem
layout. What I rant against is their choices being imposed on me.
They are not imposed on you. No one is going to your desktop/server and
is changing your disc
On 2018-11-19 10:08 a.m., KatolaZ wrote:
We are not saying we will ask the question to all the users. The
"knob" will be probably available only in expert install, once we are
sure that there are no major issues there, and the default will most
probably be non-merged-usr. For testing purposes it
On 23/11/18 at 14:32, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> On Fr, Nov 23, 2018 at 01:09:17 +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> I do get the reasons the merge proponents prefer this filesystem
>> layout. What I rant against is their choices being imposed on me.
>
> They are not imposed on you. No one is going
On 23/11/18 at 15:52, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 02:52:00PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
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>> My rants were an answer to a (former) Debian maintainer/devloper who
>> was on this list justifying the necessity of Debian's / -> merge based
>> on the specific needs of
On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 05:58:39PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> KatolaZ wrote: "Personal insults are not tolerated here."
>
> Really?! But YOU CAN INSULT as this mailing list unequivocally proves.
> The hypocracy is beyond belief.
Dear Edward,
I am pretty sure that I have never used offensive
On 23/11/18 at 17:02, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Back in 2002, I made a pictorial HOWTO wrt dealing with Wintendo-only
> modems: https://angband.pl/fun/winmodem/ -- as you can see, they can be a
> tough nut to crack. This HOWTO hasn't lost a bit of its value.
LOL! This is getting mad a a piece
KatolaZ wrote: "Personal insults are not tolerated here."
Really?! But YOU CAN INSULT as this mailing list unequivocally proves.
The hypocracy is beyond belief.
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On 23/11/18 at 12:02, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 11/22/18 4:28 PM, ael wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 03:10:15PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
>>>
>>> What is needed to install so that Devuan Jessie recognizes Huawei
>>> modems:
>>>
>>> - Huawei Mobile Connect - 3G modem (Wintendo sees it as
On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 02:52:00PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
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> My rants were an answer to a (former) Debian maintainer/devloper who
> was on this list justifying the necessity of Debian's / -> merge based
> on the specific needs of datacenters or his own personal tastes.
>
>
On 22/11/2018 22:24, Alessandro Selli wrote:
On 22/11/18 at 19:21, Roger Leigh wrote:
On 21/11/2018 16:11, Alessandro Selli wrote:
On 21/11/18 at 13:17, Roger Leigh wrote:
Hi folks,
I've been following the discussion with interest.
No, you definitely have not followed it. In fact you
On 11/22/18 4:28 PM, ael wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 03:10:15PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
What is needed to install so that Devuan Jessie recognizes Huawei modems:
- Huawei Mobile Connect - 3G modem (Wintendo sees it as such)
- Huawei USB modem E3372 4G
- Huawei Mobile Wifi router
On 23/11/18 at 06:26, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 11:24:05PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> On 22/11/18 at 19:21, Roger Leigh wrote:
>>> On 21/11/2018 16:11, Alessandro Selli wrote:
On 21/11/18 at 13:17, Roger Leigh wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I've been following the
Le 22/11/2018 à 21:55, Alessandro Selli a écrit :
On 22/11/18 at 16:25, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 22/11/2018 à 13:25, Alessandro Selli a écrit :
chown -R a-w /bin
chown -R a-w /sbin
chown -R a-w /lib
Sorry, I meant chmod.
Mounting read-only isn't more secure than marking a directory
Best Regards
--
Ismael
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From: "KatolaZ"
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Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question
I would be more inclined towards leaving the dialog more or less as it
is but making it only available
On 23/11/18 at 18:26, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2018-11-23 09:03, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> On 23/11/18 at 14:32, Stephan Seitz wrote:
>>>
>>> Again, are you doing the work for your setup you care so much?
>>
>>
>> Yes, I am. It's me who designs the filesystem layout when I chose
>>
Dear Roger.
Roger Leigh - 23.11.18, 18:01:
[…]
> On a personal note: I spent well over a decade working on different
> parts of Debian and loved being a part of it, and had many friends
> there. I left the Debian project after enduring over two years of
> abusive and disrespectful
On 23/11/18 at 23:17, Roger Leigh wrote:
> So if you're insistent upon retaining a separate /usr, that shouldn't
> be a problem.
Tomorrow morning at 4:00 o'clock I'll wake everyone up ringing the
Church's bells to celebrate.
--
Alessandro Selli
VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net
Chiave firma
On 23/11/18 at 18:10, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2018-11-23 07:32, Stephan Seitz wrote:
>>
>
> [trim]
>
>> Since Devuan and Debian are build by volunteers they will do what they
>> want to do. If no one is interested in keeping the choices they will
>> fade away. Will you step forward and work
On 22/11/2018 18:21, Roger Leigh wrote:
Before I follow up on any of the points you (and others) made in
response, let me begin with some history you may be unaware of. It
actually predates systemd, and is largely unrelated to systemd.
I just rediscovered
On 11/22/18 11:36 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 11/19/18 3:17 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
Hi All,
in the last few days we have seen many people going at lengths with
the pros and cons of a non-merged usr. That has been a great
discussion. We have put together a solution that consists into
choosing if you
On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 09:45:50PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
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> What I hear in the preceding paragraph is that dpkg considers /
> and /usr a package deal (no pun intended), and so can't abide an NFS
> mounted /usr. Telling people to merge / and /usr for this reason is
> fixing the symptom
On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 10:15:54PM -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
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> Ignore the above post. It was a fluke, I've tested two more systems with no
> problem running anything after I su to root and that's a good thing. :)
>
> Thanks,
Thanks a lot Jimmy.
HND
KatolaZ
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 12:17:21 +
Roger Leigh wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I've been following the discussion with interest. It's certainly not
> a new discussion, since I remember debating it a good few years back,
> but there are still the same opinions and thoughts on the topic that
> I remember
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