Steve Litt:
> On Thu, 2022-08-04 at 16:01 +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> > Steve Litt:
...
> > There is no requirement of pid files in the above. The notion of pid
> > files comes from some req. that you should be able to do
> > ./some_script stop.Â
>
> I do sv stop daemonname all the time.
On Thu, 2022-08-04 at 17:36 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 04, 2022 at 04:06:18AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> ...
> >
> > When I write Free Software, I'm one of those "meh, good enough" guys,
> > although
> > I'd
> > phrase it "Awww Riiight, good enough!". The reason is that
On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 7:01 AM wrote:
> Do you have some pointers to thoose experimental operating systems
> so I can get a taste of what you are talking about ?
This goes way back. Mach did lightweight messaging and more (and survives
in MacOS, I think), Plan 9 did the graphics API == window
On Thu, Aug 04, 2022 at 05:19:18PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 04/08/2022 à 00:36, Bruce Perens via Dng a écrit :
> > The fundamental OS concept is "Everything's an API" rather than
> > everything's a file.
> > APIs rather than libraries and linking.
>
> etc...
>
> It seems to me that
On Wed, 2022-08-03 at 17:19 +, J.R. Hill wrote:
> There are a few things that need to be in place for a smooth transition.
>
> For general trust in the project...
>
> 1. the init system itself should be maintained by more than a single human.
This hasn't been the case with runit. It's so
On Wed, 2022-08-03 at 09:36 +0200, marc wrote:
> > Thanks Karl,
> >
> > Some questions:
>
> Hello
>
> > 1) Does Busybox init require the daemon to background itself?
>
> So I seem no reason why "nohup daemon > /var/log/logfile &" isn't sufficient
> for this, or is there something I am not
On Wed, 2022-08-03 at 15:36 -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
> I came to the conclusion a while back that systemd was symptomatic of the
> fact that we had gone as far as the fundamental assumptions of the Unix API
> could take us.
I find it symptomatic of the fact that a guy wrote some Rube Goldberg
Quite a few of these concepts for the new OS remind me of Erlang BEAM. Does
this comparison make sense?
On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 10:36 PM Bruce Perens via Dng
wrote:
> I came to the conclusion a while back that systemd was symptomatic of the
> fact that we had gone as far as the fundamental
Le 04/08/2022 à 00:36, Bruce Perens via Dng a écrit :
The fundamental OS concept is "Everything's an API" rather than
everything's a file.
APIs rather than libraries and linking.
etc...
It seems to me that "everything is a file" could do it yet: the
kernel implements such an API though
Steve Litt:
> On Wed, 2022-08-03 at 09:36 +0200, marc wrote:
> > Karl Hammar
> > > Steve Litt:
...
> > > 1) Does Busybox init require the daemon to background itself?
> > So I seem no reason why "nohup daemon > /var/log/logfile &" isn't sufficient
> > for this, or is there something I am not aware
Bruce Perens:
...
> But we should be looking forward to something else as the next OS paradigm.
> This would include features that have been seen mostly in experimental
> operating systems up to now. This is what I think the "next OS" might be:
>
> The fundamental OS concept is "Everything's an
What do we as a community need to do
to get S6 into a "corporate friendly" state?
What can I do to help?
Here are some ideas:
- easier access to the VCS (git, pijul, etc)
- Issue tracking system
- CI/CD build chain (being careful not to make it too painful to use)
- "idiot proof" website
-
What do we as a community need to do
to get S6 into a "corporate friendly" state?
What can I do to help?
"Corporate-friendly" is not really the problem here. The problem is
more "distro-friendly".
Distributions like integrated systems. Integrated systems make their
lives easier, because
Le 03/08/2022 à 09:36, marc a écrit :
Thanks Karl,
Some questions:
Hello
1) Does Busybox init require the daemon to background itself?
So I seem no reason why "nohup daemon > /var/log/logfile &" isn't sufficient
for this, or is there something I am not aware of ?
2) Does Busybox init give
On Thu, 2022-08-04 at 16:01 +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> Steve Litt:
> > On Wed, 2022-08-03 at 09:36 +0200, marc wrote:
> > > Karl Hammar
> > > > Steve Litt:
> ...
> > > > 1) Does Busybox init require the daemon to background itself?
> > > So I seem no reason why "nohup daemon >
On Thu, Aug 04, 2022 at 04:06:18AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
...
>
> When I write Free Software, I'm one of those "meh, good enough" guys,
> although I'd
> phrase it "Awww Riiight, good enough!". The reason is that perfectionists
> never
> finish.
Might this be why we're using linux instead of
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