Re: [DNG] Coreutils 8.25 ls output

2016-02-18 Thread dev1fanboy
Little late to this thread, that sounds like annoying default behaviour and more of this same mentality that breaking backwards compatibility is OK, it's really not at all. Really it should be the other way, set -N to use the new wrapping. But hey why not right, systemd does this so we should

Re: [DNG] Lead BusyBox developer on sysvinit

2016-02-18 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Steve Litt writes: [...] > My opinion is that although this is indeed a bad thing, I'm > willing to risk it to get the breathtaking simplicity of Rich > Felker's vision in http://ewontfix.com/14/. Process #1 doesn't receive signals unless it installed a handler for

Re: [DNG] Lead BusyBox developer on sysvinit

2016-02-18 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Didier Kryn writes: > Le 18/02/2016 17:15, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : >> I suspect that many people who are >> (unspecifically) 'offended' by that suffer from a bad case of "But >> that's not how I would have done it!" disease as it's written in a more >> traditional UNIX(*) style

Re: [DNG] Lead BusyBox developer on sysvinit

2016-02-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:15:55 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Hence the argument already exposed by several persons on this > list, in particular Laurent: let's pid1 do *only* what no other > program can do. NOTE: My response is

Re: [DNG] Lead BusyBox developer on sysvinit

2016-02-18 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 18/02/2016 17:15, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : I suspect that many people who are (unspecifically) 'offended' by that suffer from a bad case of "But that's not how I would have done it!" disease as it's written in a more traditional UNIX(*) style which has gone thoroughly out of fashion more

Re: [DNG] Lead BusyBox developer on sysvinit

2016-02-18 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Didier Kryn writes: > Le 18/02/2016 12:37, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : >> I mean that "Do you trust this code! It had at least one bug!" is a >> silly statement. > I didn't read the same thing as you. > > I read more trust is needed in pid1 than in any other program. I > also

Re: [DNG] Lead BusyBox developer on sysvinit

2016-02-18 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 18/02/2016 12:37, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : I mean that "Do you trust this code! It had at least one bug!" is a silly statement. I didn't read the same thing as you. I read more trust is needed in pid1 than in any other program. I also read one cannot trust a program just because

Re: [DNG] Enlightenment anyone? ;)

2016-02-18 Thread Mitt Green
asbesto wrote: >Really I don't know what kind or version of E are all you using>because here >works like a charm, it's pure beauty, simple and >effective.>and only 60 Mb. >Icons and everything. >Are we talking about the same Enlightenment? :D [by the way, you replied to me directly]

Re: [DNG] Lead BusyBox developer on sysvinit

2016-02-18 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Didier Kryn writes: > Le 17/02/2016 22:56, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : >> Mitt Green writes: >>> >In case you haven't read this, >>> >Denys Vlasenko tells about >>> >his experiences with sysvinit. >>> >There he refers to daemontools >>> >and runit as superior

Re: [DNG] Lead BusyBox developer on sysvinit

2016-02-18 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 17/02/2016 22:56, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : Mitt Green writes: >In case you haven't read this, >Denys Vlasenko tells about >his experiences with sysvinit. >There he refers to daemontools >and runit as superior to the traditional >init. >