Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 78

2016-05-15 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 15/05/2016 21:15, Steve Litt a écrit : On Sat, 14 May 2016 23:00:36 +0200 wrote: Am Sat, 14 May 2016 17:07:06 + schrieb Didier Kryn : Hi emninger, Could you please alter email subjects to reflect what you're actually replying to? It helps those of us receiving the message to track thr

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 83

2016-05-15 Thread Ozi Traveller
Also be careful if you happen to pin debian because both devuan and debian both use jessie. I would suggest using stable for debian in preferences and sources.list. and not the same pin-priority as devuan, similar to devuan jessie-backports. NB. remember to comment out APT::Default-Release "jessie

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 83

2016-05-15 Thread Florian Zieboll
On Sun, 15 May 2016 19:43:02 +0200 Irrwahn wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2016 13:20:47 -0400, Fsmithred wrote: > > I have the following file (or equivalent) any time I have more than > > one release enabled in sources.list: > > > > cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00defaultrelease > > APT::Default-Release "j

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

2016-05-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 16 May 2016 01:18:34 +0200 Florian Zieboll wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2016 23:22:07 +0200 > Jaromil wrote: > > > prevarication, violence, misery and corruption > > Depending on one's personal history, Let me say it succinctly: I think Rick probably meant something like "toughguys" or "

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

2016-05-15 Thread Florian Zieboll
On Sun, 15 May 2016 23:22:07 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > prevarication, violence, misery and corruption Depending on one's personal history, there are many more possibilities to associate these characteristics with: church, (political) executive, family... just to name a few of them. Personally, I'

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

2016-05-15 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 16/05/16 10:26, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2016 23:22:07 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > >> On Sun, 15 May 2016, marc wrote: >> >>> http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Debian/openrc-conversion.html >> >> what's wrong with these guys to call themselves linuxmafia? >> >> some of us are from places in whi

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

2016-05-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 15 May 2016 23:22:07 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2016, marc wrote: > > > http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Debian/openrc-conversion.html > > what's wrong with these guys to call themselves linuxmafia? > > some of us are from places in which that word means prevarication, > violence,

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-15 Thread aitor_czr
Hi all, El 15/05/16 a las 21:11, Edward Bartolo escribió: Hi fsmithred, First of all, thanks for replying and giving some feedback. I used the text installer which I run for several times before I gave up trying. Then, I used Debian's Jessie ISO which worked without issues. Edward On 15/05

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

2016-05-15 Thread Jaromil
On Sun, 15 May 2016, marc wrote: > http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Debian/openrc-conversion.html what's wrong with these guys to call themselves linuxmafia? some of us are from places in which that word means prevarication, violence, misery and corruption. I've never been entertained by such a name, no

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Jessie Beta Live Minimal

2016-05-15 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 03:22:21PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 14 May 2016 17:09:34 -0400 > ". fsmithred" wrote: > > > Zenity is somewhat of a dependency hog. In Refracta, we abandoned it a > > couple years ago and replaced it with Yad. > > fsmithred, > > Thanks for reminding me of Zenit

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-15 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 05:39:17PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > When I tried to install Devuan 64 bit on a Pentium Dual Core, 3 GB > DDR2, I couldn't get past the disk partitioner as it assumed I was > using LVM. I never used LVM because it unnecessarily adds another > layer of complexit

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Jessie Beta Live Minimal

2016-05-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 15 May 2016 00:00:08 +0100 David Hare wrote: > That said, a "GUI Dialog" doesn't really fit a minimal system like > this anyway. I wouldn't count on that. For instance, Edward could have written his network-manager killer in a shellscript plus Zenity or Yad, instead of Lazarus. If he ha

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Jessie Beta Live Minimal

2016-05-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 14 May 2016 17:09:34 -0400 ". fsmithred" wrote: > Zenity is somewhat of a dependency hog. In Refracta, we abandoned it a > couple years ago and replaced it with Yad. fsmithred, Thanks for reminding me of Zenity, and informing me of Yad. These programs enable my shellscripts to present a

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 78

2016-05-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 14 May 2016 23:00:36 +0200 wrote: > Am Sat, 14 May 2016 17:07:06 + > schrieb Didier Kryn : Hi emninger, Could you please alter email subjects to reflect what you're actually replying to? It helps those of us receiving the message to track threads (client threading doesn't always wor

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-15 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi fsmithred, First of all, thanks for replying and giving some feedback. I used the text installer which I run for several times before I gave up trying. Then, I used Debian's Jessie ISO which worked without issues. Edward On 15/05/2016, . fsmithred wrote: > It could not have been one of my l

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 83

2016-05-15 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 5/15/16, Irrwahn wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 83 To: "dng" Date: Sunday, May 15, 2016, 12:43 PM P.S.: Is it just my mail client messing things up, or is the threading in DNG badly borked as of lately for other readers too?

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 83

2016-05-15 Thread Irrwahn
On Sun, 15 May 2016 13:20:47 -0400, Fsmithred wrote: > I have the following file (or equivalent) any time I have more than one > release enabled in sources.list: > > cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00defaultrelease > APT::Default-Release "jessie"; > > That way, only packages from jessie will be instal

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 83

2016-05-15 Thread . fsmithred
I have the following file (or equivalent) any time I have more than one release enabled in sources.list: cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00defaultrelease APT::Default-Release "jessie"; That way, only packages from jessie will be installed unless I use the -t option to name a different release. -fsr On

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-15 Thread . fsmithred
It could not have been one of my live isos, because refractainstaller doesn't do lvm. With the devuan beta isos, I've done both manual partitioning and automatic partitioning (to a single partition) and was not forced to use lvm in any case. On the automatic partitioning, an extended partition is

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 83

2016-05-15 Thread Irrwahn
On Sun, 15 May 2016 15:39:03 +0200, Emninger wrote: > Am Sun, 15 May 2016 12:00:01 + > schrieb Irrwahn : > [...] > >> As I already mentioned in an earlier message, I need the >> non-free catalyst fglrx driver, which for reasons beyond my >> knowledge is currently not available in neither tes

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-15 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 5/15/16, Edward Bartolo wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images To: "KatolaZ" Cc: "dng" Date: Sunday, May 15, 2016, 10:39 AM > Hi, > > When I tried to install Devuan 64 bit on a Pentium Dual Core, 3 GB > DDR2, I couldn't get past the disk partitioner as it assumed

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-15 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, When I tried to install Devuan 64 bit on a Pentium Dual Core, 3 GB DDR2, I couldn't get past the disk partitioner as it assumed I was using LVM. I never used LVM because it unnecessarily adds another layer of complexity that I deem not necessary on a family computer. This means, I always use p

Re: [DNG] dealing with wifi

2016-05-15 Thread aitor_czr
El 15/05/16 a las 14:00, Gregory Nowak escribió: Principally, to avoid wicd from starting automatically >i'll have to pull out the wicd script out of/etc/init.d/ , correct? Not necessarily. Simply doing: update-rc.d wicd disable will prevent wicd from being started or stopped by removing the

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 83

2016-05-15 Thread emninger
Am Sun, 15 May 2016 12:00:01 + schrieb Irrwahn : [...] > As I already mentioned in an earlier message, I need the > non-free catalyst fglrx driver, which for reasons beyond my > knowledge is currently not available in neither testing nor > unstable. So I pull that one from Jessie. > > Eve

Re: [DNG] dealing with wifi

2016-05-15 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 09:27:17PM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > Am Sat, 14 May 2016 17:07:06 + > schrieb Didier Kryn : > > > You have mostly two ways to deal with wifi. > > > > 1) you select the station and enter the key everytime you > > connect. 2) your system remembers the

Re: [DNG] Some questions re the devuan release

2016-05-15 Thread Irrwahn
On Sun, 15 May 2016 00:46:05 +0200, Emninger wrote: > Am Sat, 14 May 2016 19:21:29 + > schrieb Irrwahn : > >> Short list of Devuan repository URLs: >> ## testing (ascii) >> deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged testing main contrib non-free >> deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merg

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Jessie Beta Live Minimal

2016-05-15 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 08:28:18PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: [cut] > > If besides basic sound support you can also add espeak/espeak-data, > and espeakup, that should give speakup users another accessible livecd > choice, > assuming it is possible to boot this into a text console. I'll throw >

[DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

2016-05-15 Thread marc
Hi Just a quick note that there was a very brief discussion about removing systemd from debian and replacing it with openRC on the linux-elitists mailing lists. Probably the most interesting message ID was 20160514204536.ga26...@linuxmafia.com - contained two links which might be interesting to s