Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-06-25 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 10:28:15PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Wait a minute. This is getting interesting. I seem to hear you saying > that, until Devuan has vdev, I could replace udev with mdev from > busybox, but only if I don't use a "full-fledged desktop environment." As far as I understand,

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-06-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 13:02:01 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev > > Quoting the latter: > > Will mdev work on my system? > > The mdev application is definitely suitable as long as the system > does not use a full-fledged desktop environment.

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-06-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 05:00:07PM -0400, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On 22.06.2017 19:53, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >>I manage to get a root accout on my phone. But even root only gets > >>selective access to parts of the file system. And hope you're lucky > >>when you try to guess the names of the

Re: [DNG] [Q] Devuan on HP Zbook Studio G3 Mobile Workstation

2017-06-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Edward, Edward Bartolo writes: > Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen from preceding post: > "I didn't have to do any of the things mentioned in the forum post above." > > For the sake of clarity which disk format did you use: MBR or GPT? > That forum thread makes it clear that using GPT on that machine

[DNG] chromium crashing

2017-06-25 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
Hi folks, just installed chromium in an dng jail, and it fails miserably: (devuan)nekrad@orion:~$ chromium cat: /etc/debian_version: No such file or directory [12071:12071:0625/223936.306810:ERROR:browser_main_loop.cc(279)] Gtk: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C'

[DNG] Devuan download mirrors

2017-06-25 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. Can anyone tell me the appropriate contact address to discuss setting up another official Devuan mirror? Thanks, Antony. -- Users don't know what they want until they see what they get. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

[DNG] GNUdroid [WAS: I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii, ]

2017-06-25 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 25.06.2017 22:23, Hendrik Boom wrote: > The big question is whether Android still requires a custom Linux > kernel. Last time I checked (>6 month ago), only wakelocks and some other minor (non-critical) stuff was missing from mainline. No idea whether that stuff went in now, but it shouldn't

Re: [DNG] Trinity on Jessie

2017-06-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 22:14:39 +0200, Arnt wrote in message <20170625221439.03cc0...@nb6.lan>: > On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 21:14:58 +0200, Dr. wrote in message > <201706252114.58612.dr.kl...@gmx.at>: > > > Hi! > > > > Am Sonntag, 25. Juni 2017 schrieb Arnt Karlsen: > > > On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 19:23:12

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-06-25 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 22.06.2017 19:53, Hendrik Boom wrote: I manage to get a root accout on my phone. But even root only gets selective access to parts of the file system. And hope you're lucky when you try to guess the names of the its of file system you are allowed to access. Google seems to have found ways

Re: [DNG] Sessions in 1990.

2017-06-25 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > Round about 1990 I was using an X terminal. 8 megabytes of memory, > impleented the X protocol, and almost nothing else. It presented a > login screen on sshich I could tell it which coputer on the network I > wanated to log in to, as sell as

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-06-25 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 25 June 2017 at 22:23:24, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 09:23:10PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > > On 22.06.2017 19:53, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > I manage to get a root accout on my phone. But even root only gets > > > selective access to parts of

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-06-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 09:23:10PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > On 22.06.2017 19:53, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > I manage to get a root accout on my phone. But even root only gets > > selective access to parts of the file system. And hope you're lucky > > when you try to

[DNG] Sessions in 1990.

2017-06-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 01:02:01PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult (enrico.weig...@gr13.net): > > > Could anyone please enlighten me, what all these "seat" and "session" > > stuff is really about ? What is the underlying problem to solve here ? > > Below are a

Re: [DNG] Trinity on Jessie

2017-06-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 21:14:58 +0200, Dr. wrote in message <201706252114.58612.dr.kl...@gmx.at>: > Hi! > > Am Sonntag, 25. Juni 2017 schrieb Arnt Karlsen: > > On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 19:23:12 +0200, Arnt wrote in message > > <20170625192312.0e037...@nb6.lan>: > > > > > On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 12:29:01

[DNG] reverse-engineering systemd is fighting strategic incompetence.

2017-06-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:15:17PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 12:08:47PM +0200, info at smallinnovations dot nl > wrote: ... ... > > Expanding to that we can even make a libsystemd0 that actually works with > > any init system (except systemd) for all relevant init parts and

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-06-25 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult (enrico.weig...@gr13.net): > Could anyone please enlighten me, what all these "seat" and "session" > stuff is really about ? What is the underlying problem to solve here ? Below are a couple of things I've written on the subject here and elsewhere.

Re: [DNG] Trinity on Jessie

2017-06-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 20:20:41 +0200, Arnt wrote in message <20170625202041.54f11...@nb6.lan>: > On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 19:23:12 +0200, Arnt wrote in message > <20170625192312.0e037...@nb6.lan>: > > > On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 12:29:01 +, Gary wrote in message > >

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-06-25 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 22.06.2017 19:53, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I manage to get a root accout on my phone. But even root only gets > selective access to parts of the file system. And hope you're lucky > when you try to guess the names of the its of file system you are > allowed to access. Google seems to have

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-06-25 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 19.06.2017 13:24, KatolaZ wrote: Hi folks, > the main problem with this is that if you want to provide a consistent> > interface to the upper-level userland and to include support for fancy> concepts like "session" and "seat", as systemd aspires to, you must> have control on all the

Re: [DNG] Trinity on Jessie

2017-06-25 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Hi! Am Sonntag, 25. Juni 2017 schrieb Arnt Karlsen: > On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 19:23:12 +0200, Arnt wrote in message > <20170625192312.0e037...@nb6.lan>: > > > On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 12:29:01 +, Gary wrote in message > > : > > >

Re: [DNG] Trinity on Jessie

2017-06-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 19:23:12 +0200, Arnt wrote in message <20170625192312.0e037...@nb6.lan>: > On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 12:29:01 +, Gary wrote in message > : > > > Follow up on my Trinity blurb the other day: > > ' > > Don't

Re: [DNG] [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-25 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Just re-sending this from the Debian User's list FYI - originally from: "Henrique de Moraes Holschuh " - this email with the perl script (I'll post that one here too) On Sun, 25 Jun 2017, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > This warning advisory is relevant for

[DNG] [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-25 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Just re-sending this from the Debian User's list FYI - originally from: "Henrique de Moraes Holschuh " - are we all good here? - NB: there is a nice perl script to check vuln too on that list (I'll post that one here too) This warning advisory is relevant for users

[DNG] Trinity on Jessie

2017-06-25 Thread Gary Olzeke
Follow up on my Trinity blurb the other day: ' Don't shoot me ! I put TDE (Trinity DE) on top of my DevJessie. Q4OS made their TDE available for Devuan Jessie - it won't work on ASCII or ceres. [I think they check the /etc/apt/sources.list; based on an attempt to put it on my ASCII version] ' It