[DNG] BUG (severe): chromium crashes

2017-06-30 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
Hi folks, on devuan jessie (in chroot) chromium crashes immediately: (devuan)nekrad@orion:~$ chromium -g --temp-profile cat: /etc/debian_version: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden # Env: # LD_LIBRARY_PATH= # PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games #

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread zap
It is a little too confusing trying to install openrc at the moment so I will pass for now... It is just a shame that the runit-init package was taken down... On 06/30/2017 06:46 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 21:45:23 +0200 > Joachim Fahrner wrote: > >> Am

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 21:45:23 +0200 Joachim Fahrner wrote: > Am 2017-06-30 19:16, schrieb Steve Litt: > > > Would it be possible for you to install OpenRC from upstream > > source? I know that's easily doable with runit or s6, but I know > > little about OpenRC. > > I'm

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 30/06/2017 à 23:30, Vincent Bentley a écrit : Along time ago, well designed and well behaved software could be recognised by the number of years passed without changes. I worked at one place that was proud of release version birthdays. Agreed. That's why I'm always bothered with the

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread Vincent Bentley
Along time ago, well designed and well behaved software could be recognised by the number of years passed without changes. I worked at one place that was proud of release version birthdays. On 30/06/17 21:22, zap wrote: > > > On 06/30/2017 03:45 PM, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > I just want to use

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread zap
On 06/30/2017 03:45 PM, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > Am 2017-06-30 19:16, schrieb Steve Litt: > >> Would it be possible for you to install OpenRC from upstream source? I >> know that's easily doable with runit or s6, but I know little about >> OpenRC. > > I'm wondering why there are lots of

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread zap
On 06/30/2017 11:21 AM, Svante Signell wrote: > On Thu, 2017-06-29 at 19:34 -0400, zap wrote: >> not really complaining for the most part. But I am curious that's >> all. >> > Hi zap, > > As I wrote earlier, you can install openrc by: > 0) Enable ascii in /etc/apt/sources.list > deb

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Am 2017-06-30 19:16, schrieb Steve Litt: Would it be possible for you to install OpenRC from upstream source? I know that's easily doable with runit or s6, but I know little about OpenRC. I'm wondering why there are lots of discussions about init systems. What is wrong with sysv init? My

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:20:08 + Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 170629-19:34-0400, zap wrote: > > not really complaining for the most part. But I am curious that's > > all. > I wish I knew better, but, for a simple question of mine today (see > my other email of

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170630-10:16-0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2017-06-30 09:20, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > > . . . (and although I can log in to GDO, I'm > > very clumsy at finding out things in there still, to be able to tell > > you). > > > > I often get to gdo from the dev1galaxy forum: > >

[DNG] Migrating from jessie to ascii

2017-06-30 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
So far I'm using on my work PC to devuan jessie 32 bit, but I've thought about migrating to ascii. I use virtualbox 5.1.22 with several virtual PCs: devuan ascii, manjaro-openrc and windows xp, 7, server2003 Do you think that at the moment I can move to ascii without being stopped working

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread Svante Signell
On Thu, 2017-06-29 at 19:34 -0400, zap wrote: > not really complaining for the most part. But I am curious that's > all. > Hi zap, As I wrote earlier, you can install openrc by: 0) Enable ascii in /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii main 1) add to

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread golinux
On 2017-06-30 09:20, Miroslav Rovis wrote: . . . (and although I can log in to GDO, I'm very clumsy at finding out things in there still, to be able to tell you). I often get to gdo from the dev1galaxy forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewforum.php?id=18 (gdo projects)

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170629-19:34-0400, zap wrote: > not really complaining for the most part. But I am curious that's all. I wish I knew better, but, for a simple question of mine today (see my other email of today, and the links to dev1galaxy.org post of mine) I only after some time waiting got a reply... Some

Re: [DNG] ascii-backports? for torbrowser-launcher install WAS: heads 0.3 released!

2017-06-30 Thread Miroslav Rovis
This topic is, among other things, where I learned about... On 2017-06-23 19:17, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 15:24:48 +0200, Didier wrote in message > <84409ec6-371b-0839-b68a-48d36ad631e1@???>: > > > Le 23/06/2017 à 11:48, KatolaZ a écrit : > > > On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-06-30 Thread Ron
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 09:07:46 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float > by. > - Sun Tzu I'm afraid he never wrote that: See for instance

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-06-30 Thread Jaromil
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, Aldemir Akpinar wrote: > On 30 June 2017 at 09:14, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2017 30 Jun 00:55 -0500, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > >> Maybe it's me, but what the hell is a DNS resolver doing inside an init > >> system? > > > > The same thing that a time

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-06-30 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 schrieb Aldemir Akpinar: > On 30 June 2017 at 09:14, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2017 30 Jun 00:55 -0500, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > >> Maybe it's me, but what the hell is a DNS resolver doing inside an init > >> system? > > > > The same thing that a

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-06-30 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Am 2017-06-30 07:53, schrieb Alessandro Selli: Maybe it's me, but what the hell is a DNS resolver doing inside an init system? systemd is _NOT_ an init system. That's a mythos. Systemd started as an init system, but evolved step-by-step to a monolithic low level Linux userland. It's

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-06-30 Thread Aldemir Akpinar
On 30 June 2017 at 09:14, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2017 30 Jun 00:55 -0500, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >> Maybe it's me, but what the hell is a DNS resolver doing inside an init >> system? > > The same thing that a time sync (NTP) daemon is doing in there... > > - Nate > And

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-06-30 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2017 30 Jun 00:55 -0500, Alessandro Selli wrote: > Maybe it's me, but what the hell is a DNS resolver doing inside an init > system? The same thing that a time sync (NTP) daemon is doing in there... - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds.